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Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Sun Sep 25 21:01:28 2016 What has happened since..not goodbop-cords |
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Posted by Dan on Mon Sep 26 18:19:06 2016, in response to In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Sun Sep 25 21:01:28 2016. Back in the day of local independent record companies. Fans were upset when WCBS-FM dropped 'The Do-Wop Shop' back in 2002, but Do-wop had run it's course on radio by then.WCBS-FM drops the Doo-Wop Shop - NYDN 8/23/2002 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:02:01 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Dan on Mon Sep 26 18:19:06 2016. Fans were upset when WCBS-FM dropped 'The Doo-Wop Shop' back in 2002, but Doo-wop had run its course on radio by thenIf it upset fans, then how could it have run its course? A case of running its course would have met with fan apathy instead. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 26 22:26:27 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:02:01 2016. Plus they crashed in June 05 |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 27 05:50:04 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Dan on Mon Sep 26 18:19:06 2016. Don K Reed's Doo Wop Shop is still on every Sunday night on the internet at http://www.thebelmonts.net/radio/default.asp and Don usually appears at every Doo Wop Show at Westbury |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Sep 27 06:52:12 2016, in response to In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Sun Sep 25 21:01:28 2016. As I'm reading these posts, "Church Bells May Ring" and the "Bristol Stomp" are playing in my head.Though the Bristol Stomp, out in 1961 was at the tail end of the doo wop era. |
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Posted by Dan on Tue Sep 27 18:33:30 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:02:01 2016. Dropping do-wop upset a very small number of fans. WCBS-FM survived that but f*cked up later on with that bizarre 'Jack' format. They trashed 'Jack' in 2007 and the new WCBS-FM is great. |
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Posted by Dan on Tue Sep 27 18:46:25 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 27 05:50:04 2016. I'll check it out. Right now they're playing a mix of 50s and 60s stuff. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 27 21:10:33 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Dan on Tue Sep 27 18:33:30 2016. Great?That station is awful. As a matter of fact fm radio in NY is awful. But 101.1 is a horror |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 21:55:54 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 27 21:10:33 2016. don't you like 80's music? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 09:28:59 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 27 21:55:54 2016. Negative K |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:10:22 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 27 21:10:33 2016. Great?That station is awful. As a matter of fact fm radio in NY is awful. But 101.1 is a horror CBS-FM, Playing the greatest hits of the 80's, the 80's and the 80's. B-103 on Long island is just as bad. You can set your watch to them because they'll play the same top 10 hits over and over. WHLI (1100 khz AM) on Long Island plays the forgotten hits. It would be nice if was on FM. :-( Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:14:25 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Dan on Tue Sep 27 18:33:30 2016. They trashed 'Jack' in 2007 and the new WCBS-FM is great.The "Jack" format was the radio version of New Coke. They misjudged the listeners preference in oldies and caught holy hell. The current CBS format is great if you like to hear the same 100 hits of the 80's over and over and leave out the real oldies. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:23:06 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 27 05:50:04 2016. I used to listen to Don K reed's Doo Wop Shop on CBS-FM.He mostly played Doo-Wop tunes I've never heard. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 10:46:12 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:14:25 2016. Face it, 80s music is "oldies" now. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 11:10:45 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 10:46:12 2016. Face it, 80s music is "oldies" now.You're telling me something I already know. 60's & 70's music is also oldies too. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 11:17:38 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 11:10:45 2016. Yes, but their key demo now is people in their 40s and 50s who were in their teens and 20s the 80s. People older than that are poison for advertisers. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:25:05 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:10:22 2016. I have nice memories of 1100 as a kid. I haven't listened to them in years. I'm glad you reminded me.Fordham's station can be good at times. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:26:27 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 10:46:12 2016. It might be old chronologically but it's not oldies. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:28:27 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 11:17:38 2016. That's what's nice about iPods.I do miss some of the djs. Not all of them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:34:45 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:26:27 2016. If 50s music was oldies in the 1980s, then 80s music is oldies now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:35:25 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:28:27 2016. iPods are obsolete. People use their phones now. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Sep 28 14:59:12 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:02:01 2016. "If it upset fans, then how could it have run its course? A case of running its course would have met with fan apathy instead."It was a case of what Mad.Ave types call bad demographics. Sure they had a substantial listener base, but who?? Most of the listeners were older & outside of the advertisers "sweet spot" aka 18-34 age group. Historically, outside of that group don't spend as much as as the youngins. Those folks, that still listen to terrestrial radio, just love their Z-100 just as an example. CBS-FM is going after the younger demos.Listen to 'CBS-FM nowadays, the word "oldies" has been banished and has been for several years now. It is not ratings thats the big stat nowadays, its the billing. And radio stations that cater to the "kids" make more $$$. Thats the nature of the business nowadays. Bottom line, Z-100 bills lots more than CBS-FM. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 15:44:43 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:10:22 2016. It's mostly '80s, but they play a significant percentage of '70s (a lot of it Eagles) and some '90s. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 15:51:58 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:34:45 2016. IAWTP |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 15:55:18 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Dan on Tue Sep 27 18:33:30 2016. I wouldn't say great, but it's pretty good. I sometimes think they play a bit too much Eagles for my taste. I like Rewound Radio's playlist better, but I have a harder time getting a consistent "reception". |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 28 17:23:40 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:34:45 2016. If 50s music was oldies in the 1980s, then 80s music is oldies now.1950s music was oldies in 1962. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 17:26:20 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 28 17:23:40 2016. 1980>1962.Q.E.D. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 18:42:45 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 17:26:20 2016. But eventually oldies get so old they're not oldies any more. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 05:59:57 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 18:42:45 2016. But eventually oldies get so old they're not oldies any more.Not as long as they're playing in our heads. :-) Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 06:02:07 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 15:44:43 2016. It's mostly '80s, but they play a significant percentage of '70s (a lot of it Eagles) and some '90s.Yeah, but they're playing a selected bunch of 80's and leaving some out. You can almost set your watch to it. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 06:05:53 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:34:45 2016. If 50s music was oldies in the 1980s, then 80s music is oldies now.That's true too. Back when my oldies were playing, WNEW 1130 AM was playing tunes for my parents generation. William B. Williams and the Make Believe Ballroom I remember very well. Time marches on. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 06:19:54 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Express Rider on Tue Sep 27 06:52:12 2016. As I'm reading these posts, "Church Bells May Ring" and the "Bristol Stomp" are playing in my head.Church Bells May Ring was recorded by The Willows as well as The Diamonds in 1956. I guess the Willows version came first and The Diamonds covered it. Though the Bristol Stomp, out in 1961 was at the tail end of the doo wop era. The Bristol Stomp was released in September of 1961. But for me, "Just Like Romeo and Juliet" by The Reflections was doo wops last gasp. It released on May 2, 1964, at the height of Beatlemania and the British Invasion. The British Invasion also spelled the end of a lot of pop artists who would never recover. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 29 08:19:22 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 06:19:54 2016. Thanks for your comments and details! :)began listening to rock'n'roll/doo-wop when I was eight or nine ('58 or '59) - as much as I could catch, on Alan Freed's or Dick Clark's late afernoon shows. I wasn't aware of WMGM etc. until a couple of years later, so wasn't aware of the "complete picture of doo-wop" As a kid, llked the fast songs (Cadillacs, Marcels), didn't like the slow romantic ballads - "too young to know" to quote Sam Cooke.* Also, being eight or nine, didn't have my own independent spending money for 45s, too young for school dances (didn't have them yet) and of course dating (heh,heh) *a few years back, bought Sam Cooke at the Harlem Square club. Great album!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 09:58:11 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 29 08:19:22 2016. wasn't aware of WMGMWMGM switched from rock and roll to country and changed their call letters to WHN. Did you attend Murray the K's shows at the Brooklyn Fox ? If you arrived for the first show, you received a free record album like I did. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 29 15:11:56 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950's It was about QUALITY., posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 09:58:11 2016. WMGM - I wasn't aware of it when I first heard rock'n'roll. I remember the day the format and call letters changed. It was during the day. The last song "officially" played by WMGM was Peppermint Twist, Joey Dee & The Starlighters, then the station immediately switched to WHN, with this forties style male/female small chorus group singing the call letters............ and that was that!Sorry to say, I was not only a Suffolk kid, but was too young to go to the Fox shows, though I heard Alan Freed speak about them. I didn't knwo anybody's older brother or sister that I could go with either. |
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Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Thu Sep 29 17:43:11 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 26 22:02:01 2016. When I said QUALITY. I was also including JAZZ.Booker little |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 18:12:09 2016, in response to Re: In the 1950s It was about…, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 06:02:07 2016. That's the reason I can't listen to them regularly - they don't change that playlist much. :-( At least Rewound Radio has a much more varied playlist. |
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