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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:23:38 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:15:16 2015.

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Its gonna be a few weeks until the stats are published. .a loaded gun in the house is an invitation to carnage. It is unreasonable and dangerous. Anyone advocating such needs their head examined, resulting in a place on the "no gun" list.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:23:57 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:21:25 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If people want to commit suicide they will find a way even if guns were tougher to get. Would you prefer they just slit there wrists or go into a garage and turn on an automobile where someone innocent can succumb as well because of the Carbon Monoxide? Let's ban Carbon Monoxide!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:24:59 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:20:26 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not at all paranoid. You ought to sign yourself in for your paranoia and acquiescence to killing through negligent behavior.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:25:13 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 8 14:22:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Instead of unconstitutionally arresting them, Lindsay should have then imposed a $4000 tax (I mean insurance against obscenity) on every Hair ticket.
The playwright's and cast's freedom of expression would have thus remained protected.

signed
bingbong



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:25:29 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 8 14:22:37 2015.

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Yep. It is.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:25:40 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:15:16 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Proof that there are more deaths and injuries from guns than deaths and injuries from motor vehicle accidents?

The death rates are almost identical.

No other well-to-do country has a gun death rate anywhere near as high as ours.

Everyone here dodges this question: what's wrong with the Canadian model? Every adult non-felon is allowed to own a gun. Gun death homicide rates are 1/7th those of the US (while other homicide rates are comaprable).


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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:26:22 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:23:38 2015.

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a loaded gun in the house is an invitation to carnage



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:27:33 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:25:40 2015.

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Because Canadians respect the potential of a gun and make sure that those who are exposed to the gun are properly aware of its potential and its safe operation

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:27:38 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:23:57 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If people want to commit suicide they will find a way even if guns were tougher to get.

That is actually false. See the article I cited.


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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:28:33 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:27:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly. And the reason for not introducing that training into the US is what?



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:28:54 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:23:57 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Will you listen to yourself? Have you no human decency? I guess the answer to that is no. Most non gun suicide attempts fail as they are actually a cry for help. In fact, that's kind of by design. You really are heartless, callous and cruel.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:29:33 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:25:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Everyone here dodges this question: what's wrong with the Canadian model?

Show me which part of the Canadian Constitution says that the citizens of that country are guaranteed from having their right to keep and bear arms from being infringed by their Government.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:30:31 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:25:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Preliminary reports (google it) show that's changed. We'll know after the first of the year.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:31:17 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:28:54 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I didn't know you knew everybody who has ever attempted to commit suicide. I have plenty of human decency. I want law abiding citizens to have the ability to enjoy the same rights I have the ability to enjoy and that includes the Second Amendment.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:31:23 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:28:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And the reason for not introducing that training into the US is what?

This thing



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:33:08 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:31:23 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I doubt our founders wanted to see today's GCMs killing innocent people.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 8 14:33:41 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:25:13 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Producing and acting in plays the government doesn't like, won't get anyone killed. (Hair was, and remains, one of my all-time favorite plays.) But guns do, and I'm just saying a modest tax on gun owners would cover the cost of the harm their guns do.

I do understand your point, however, about taxing things like plays or newspaper articles. As a matter of fact, NYC charges various kinds of production taxes to all plays, movies, and TV shows done in the city, including my current play that opens in the spring. It's just part of the cost of doing business.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 14:34:02 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:06:32 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Who are you to judge? Why did you change your facebook picture?
That picture still exists.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:36:09 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:33:08 2015.

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You had a seance and contacted them?

I thought that only Nino Scalia and Clarence Thomas were capable of that.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 14:39:02 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:28:54 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Maybe it's not just the guns! Maybe it's also the leadership.






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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 14:40:27 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:23:38 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps that's true in your house. I seem to recall an issue with a baseball bat.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:42:47 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:31:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not based on your last post in this thread, you don't even have a shred of decency. Nor any understanding of humanity.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:43:17 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:31:23 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. Nothing in Canada would fail to pass muster in the currently constituted US Supreme Court.



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:43:59 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:29:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Irrelevant. The Canadian rules don't violate the Second Amendment.


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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:44:24 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 14:34:02 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Someone that knows what rational is.

I changed the picture to give you an answer. 2009.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:46:39 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:36:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, ok, sure. :-)

Fact is, this was never intended to be an unfettered right. Among the first laws passed by the new government, gun control measures were significant in number.

Technology makes regulation of lethal, deadly weapons imperative.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 15:24:56 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:44:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I thought that the picture was older than that. I hardly think that you are in a position to judge sanity. You seem to be a few fries short of a happy meal.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 8 15:35:13 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 15:24:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How much does she weigh? Does she look like a GILF?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 8 16:05:16 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 8 14:25:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOALM!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 17:42:18 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 15:24:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm in a better position to determine sanity than you are for sure. Lulz.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 17:46:14 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 17:42:18 2015.

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Oh, and how do you come to that conclusion?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 17:49:35 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 17:46:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
By being saner. I got out of the city years ago. You haven't.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 18:05:55 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 13:55:18 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Got Tons of texts you've written says different.
In fact,you are the Furthest from "RATIONAL" we seen around here in awhile,if you discount the usual milksop and pantyraiders..
And Thanks for the Pops...I always knew you were soned out.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 18:10:04 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 14:44:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Damn...
Its That bad for you,that you stalk her Facebook too?
Thats some serious malfunction there,son.
Seek professional help.


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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 18:14:01 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 13:37:36 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
On the same manner you strip away rights from folks who didnt deserve auch treatment?
Who exactly fits your mold of Law abiding citizens?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 18:18:24 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 14:06:42 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wow..
You couldn't come up with a better argument than that?
Hell..we already pay through the nose for driving..or hadn't YOU noticed?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 18:21:45 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 17:49:35 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Duh, I don't live in the "city" and only did so for a very brief portion of my life. So let me ask you this, if that is your metric for sanity, what about your few supporters like Edwards who (IIRC) lives in Brooklyn or alm who lives in Manhattan. Are they less sane than you? And now that we are almost neighbors, what does that do to your theory?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 18:23:36 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 18:05:55 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
On the other hand, I've seen hundreds of your posts to others where you are it total foam mode.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 18:28:12 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 8 18:21:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're upstate??? Lulz. Prove it.

Although I could see you being from some backwater like PA like your (sole) buddy Olog. You have the same hate, at least you're not a feudalist like him. Or are you?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 18:43:17 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 8 18:28:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
1) I don't need to prove anything to you
2) What about Edwards and alm and others who do live in the "city". Do you find them less sane than you?

Answer the question!

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 8 18:49:36 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 18:43:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Doesn't need to prove anything, demands proof. LOL!



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 18:53:15 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 18:14:01 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Haven't been arrested, not mentally ill, no restraining orders against them. You know - what we already include in background checks for in store purchases

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 18:53:45 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 8 18:49:36 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Where is your proof that you live with mostly Muslims?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 18:55:28 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 8 18:53:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sorry that should say haven't been convicted of a crime first. Typed too fast

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 8 18:59:46 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 8 18:53:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Where is your proof that you're capable of reading and comprehending?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 8 21:56:47 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 8 14:01:49 2015.

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Yeah, like that will ever happen.

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 22:08:05 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:29:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Funny how everyone loves to toss that around,while Millions of American citizens " rights" are infringed upon daily.like that paper didnt.exist.

Oh..Im sorry...I did say Americans CITIZENS,did I?
Let me.reframe.that...I forgot.about the Classism Clause.
I fogot about the Privileged.Class.
A law is only as good as how its enforced.

Case in point..
A group of individuals were having a party on the Manhattan bound Hoyt st platform...a real hoot..
Noisy..rude...open 🍺 right there for all to see.
Not only were they not.approached by a uniform...with.a Transit Police District headquarters one flight above...they were pretty much left alone the entire time..about twenty minutes...

Now,if they were Anything OTHER THAN PRIVILEGED CLASS...that platform wouw have been SWARMING WITH COPS..uni plus...



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 22:08:05 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 8 14:29:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Funny how everyone loves to toss that around,while Millions of American citizens " rights" are infringed upon daily.like that paper didnt.exist.

Oh..Im sorry...I did say Americans CITIZENS,did I?
Let me.reframe.that...I forgot.about the Classism Clause.
I fogot about the Privileged.Class.
A law is only as good as how its enforced.

Case in point..
A group of individuals were having a party on the Manhattan bound Hoyt st platform...a real hoot..
Noisy..rude...open 🍺 right there for all to see.
Not only were they not.approached by a uniform...with.a Transit Police District headquarters one flight above...they were pretty much left alone the entire time..about twenty minutes...

Now,if they were Anything OTHER THAN PRIVILEGED CLASS...that platform wouw have been SWARMING WITH COPS..uni plus...



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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 8 22:35:59 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 8 22:08:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Maybe they were filming a movie?

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Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 9 00:11:23 2015, in response to Re: Gun Proliferation In The US Is Out Of Control, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 8 22:35:59 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Didnt hang around long after the first beer bottle was thrown.

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