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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 30 13:17:42 2015 Story here |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 30 13:27:46 2015, in response to Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 30 13:17:42 2015. Presuming that this story is true, I condemn them. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jul 30 13:37:43 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 30 13:27:46 2015. Them? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 30 14:00:38 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jul 30 13:37:43 2015. Him. It. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 30 17:16:55 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 30 13:27:46 2015. What part or parts of this story do you presume to be untrue? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jul 31 00:07:03 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 30 17:16:55 2015. Bump... |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 10:31:52 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 30 17:16:55 2015. OK, I'll admit that I was skeptical at first. After it being on several news sources, I do believe it, and once again I condemn it. Terrible tragedy. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 31 12:38:04 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 10:31:52 2015. OK, I'll admit that I was skeptical at first. After it being on several news sources, I do believe itHuh? When has a story like this ever turned out to be untrue? And has this media outlet shown a pattern of making up stories? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 12:51:52 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 31 12:38:04 2015. It just seemed at first far fetched. An alleged orthodox Jew perpetrating these heinous acts sounded very bizarre. It is not characteristic of an orthodox Jew. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 31 12:56:26 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 12:51:52 2015. It just seemed at first far fetched.But it was a breaking news story posted by a legitimate media outlet. An alleged orthodox Jew perpetrating these heinous acts sounded very bizarre.No it doesn't, especially in the context. It is not characteristic of an orthodox Jew.Wrong. Anyone can commit a crime, and Orthodox Jews are no exception. They can and do commit crimes. In your case, you see a lot of crime committed in those prices they charge at kosher restaurants! OMG!!!!!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 12:58:18 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 31 12:56:26 2015. You do realize we are both on the same page? We are in complete agreement. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 31 13:03:24 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 12:58:18 2015. Not really. Because I never doubted the story for a second when WTAMAGOCHI posted it. And also because I was only joking about that last thing whereas you actually believe it. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jul 31 13:35:12 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 12:51:52 2015. So all of the assaults and other crimes by Orthodox Jews against נשות הכותל and their supporters did not happen? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 14:14:41 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 31 13:03:24 2015. What did I beleive? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 14:16:10 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jul 31 13:35:12 2015. Which ones? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 14:31:03 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 12:51:52 2015. Numerous media sources report that"ultra-Orthodox Jews like Schliessel have protested Jerusalem's Gay Pride parade for as long as it's been operating. Here's a BBC report about the attack . |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 14:45:42 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 14:31:03 2015. OK fine. I already condemned it. No real orthodox Jew would do such a diabolical act. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 14:51:32 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 14:45:42 2015. No person acting in accordance with the true nature of their faith would commit such a horrible hate crime. Most of the world's religions have some version of the Golden Rule, which is considered a governing principle.That said, extreme branches of the three major faiths (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) have all encouraged and carried out atrocities against the LGBT community. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 17:53:42 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 14:45:42 2015. No True Scotsman fallacy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 17:54:42 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 14:51:32 2015. No True Scotsman fallacy. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Jul 31 19:27:01 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 31 14:14:41 2015. What did I beleive?The last thing I said. It's not that hard to look up. But I'll paste it here anyhow in honor of the imminent arrival of the Shabbos Queen. a lot of crime committed in those prices they charge at kosher restaurants |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Jul 31 19:36:00 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 14:51:32 2015. No person acting in accordance with the true nature of their faith would commit such a horrible hate crime.Huh? So all the Jews in the Torah who killed others under orders from G-d just because those others were a certain other ethnic group (or whatever) were not acting in the true nature of their faith???? The orders came directly from G-d!!!! Doesn't get more true nature than that! Why is it so hard to believe that there are some things in this world that are so bad that committing 'hate crimes' becomes a justifiable response? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 19:40:15 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Jul 31 19:36:00 2015. Are you saying that atrocities, so long as those who commit them claim Divine imperatives, are justified in their actions? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 20:34:41 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 17:54:42 2015. BUMP |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 31 21:04:20 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 17:54:42 2015. I think you're on weaker ground here than with CMM. If an adherent of a religion violates the commandments of the religion, you can say they are not acting in the true nature of their faith.It's not like saying you're not a Scotsman because Scotsmen can't commit horrible crimes. It's like saying you're not a law abiding Scotsman. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 21:14:30 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 31 21:04:20 2015. I disagree. The tenets of religion are subject to interpretation. It's just that people who are moral but also religious have to fit their religion into their morality and ignore the fact that their God is described by their own holy books as a genocidal monster. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 31 21:22:11 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 21:14:30 2015. It's just that people who are moral but also religious have to fit their religion into their morality and ignore the fact that their God is described by their own holy books as a genocidal monster.The Catholic Church actually has a clever way of dealing with that issue. The dubious passages of the Bible are never read at services and never taught in ordinary religious education. (I'm sure you'd read them if you took a class in the Old Testament at Fordham, say.) So most Catholics don't consciously realize they are there. I still get a bit shocked when I see a quote of one of the more egregious passages. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 21:30:59 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Jul 31 19:36:00 2015. Oh, and are you implying that gays are among the things in this world "so bad that committing hate crimes becomes a justifiable response"? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 31 22:23:28 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 31 21:22:11 2015. at Fordham, sayLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jul 31 22:44:27 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 31 22:23:28 2015. Amanda attended Fordham and is still on the run. She was last seen in the early morning hours November last hanging around the Lexington Avenue Express up by Nereid Avenue. Let's just say I have that on good authority and leave it at that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 31 23:14:57 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 19:40:15 2015. Allahu Akbar, dude ... :-\ |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 23:26:02 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 31 23:14:57 2015. Exactly where I was going. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:42:08 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 21:14:30 2015. It's just that people who are moral but also religious have to fit their religion into their morality and ignore the fact that their God is described by their own holy books as a genocidal monster.Not true at all. Orthodox Jews have no problem admitting what G-d says or has said about killing various people or groups of people or entire nations. We're not ashamed of it and for the most part, most don't disagree with it. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:44:26 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 19:40:15 2015. Are you saying that atrocities, so long as those who commit them claim Divine imperatives, are justified in their actions?No, I'm saying that back in the times when G-d performed open miracles, He said to kill certain nations and that certain crimes were punishable by death, and that the Jews who followed those orders at those times were doing nothing wrong. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:47:45 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 21:30:59 2015. Oh, and are you implying that gays are among the things in this world "so bad that committing hate crimes becomes a justifiable response"?Only if we are living in a time period where G-d is performing open miracles (that's the simple description - your local Orthodox rabbi can explain in more detail) AND something resembling 'hate crimes' is listed in the Torah as the appropriate action against someone who is "gay". We're definitely not living in the former and I'm not aware of anything in the Torah concerning the latter. So I guess the answer is NO! As if it actually would have been yes, LOL! You so silly! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 2 14:53:15 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:47:45 2015. G-d still isn't performing miracles? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 2 17:00:31 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:42:08 2015. So your religion is not moral. At least you're honest about it. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 2 17:00:39 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:47:45 2015. But you wrote:Why is it so hard to believe that there are some things in this world that are so bad that committing 'hate crimes' becomes a justifiable response? You were using the present tense, not making any reference to the past. You seemed to be suggesting that Schliessel's actions fell into the category of 'justifiable responses'. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:40:57 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 2 17:00:31 2015. No, not only is my religion very moral, but it is the moral standard for the world. In other words, it's OK to annihilate a nation if they are so bad that G-d directly and very clearly says to annihilate them. Note that there are other religions, or extreme version of other religions, out there who believe in annihilation but don't have such high standards for seeking approvals for carrying out the annihilation.Morals are all subjective. They have to come from somewhere. Jews believe that morality came from G-d. You seem to believe that people just know it when they see it and that whatever morals you currently hold are the correct ones. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:41:22 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:44:26 2015. bump |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:42:06 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 2 14:53:15 2015. What did I say? Read it again. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:47:08 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 2 17:00:39 2015. You were using the present tense, not making any reference to the past.Correct. People didn't stop doing bad things when G-d went into "hiding". Just because we don't have authorization to fully respond to said bad people doesn't mean that what they are doing is still bad enough to warrant a severe response should we at some point gain permission to do so. You claimed that nothing can justify such a response and I'm showing why you are wrong. Furthermore, I said nothing about justifying what Schliessel did. You were speaking in general terms and so was I. We both were not speaking only of Schliessel. Seriously, do you think that marching in a parade while dressed inappropriately, or watching people do that, is an offense that merits death? Get real. Why in the world would I justify that? If I justified that, don't you think I'd be in the loony bin by now? Do you think I'd still have at least partial custody of my three beautiful children??? |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 2 22:20:00 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:40:57 2015. You seem to believe that people just know it when they see it and that whatever morals you currently hold are the correct ones.Which is an accurate description of secular humanism. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 2 23:54:19 2015, in response to Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 30 13:17:42 2015.  16-year-old stabbed in Jerusalem pride parade succumbs to wounds Shira Banki was critically wounded in an attack by an ultra-Orthodox man on Thursday; Netanyahu: She died for bravely supporting everyone's right to live in dignity. By Yaniv Kubovich | Haaretz Three days after being critically wounded by an ultra-Orthodox man that went on a stabbing rampage at Jerusalem's Gay Pride Parade, Shira Banki, a 16-year-old Israeli teen succumbed to her wounds Sunday afternoon. Five other people were wounded in the attack. Police confirmed that the suspected stabber is Yishai Schlissel, a Haredi man from Modiin Ilit who stabbed three participants in the 2005 Gay Pride march. He was recently released from prison after serving a 10-year sentence. Banki was a high-school student from Jerusalem, studying at the Hebrew University High School. She took part in Thursday's parade to show solidarity with her LGBT friends. She is survived by her parents and three siblings; her family decided to donate her organs. In a statement issued Sunday, her family said: "Our magical Shira was murdered because she was a happy 16-year-old – full of life and love – who came to express her support for her friends' rights to live as they choose. For no good reason and because of evil, stupidity and negligence, the life of our beautiful flower was cut short. Bad things happen to good people, and a very bad thing happened to our amazing girl. The family expresses hope for a less hatred and more tolerance." The family requests the public respect their privacy as they grieve. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sent his condolences to Banki's family, and said she died "because she bravely supported everyone's right to live their life in dignity and security." "We will not allow a despicable killer to undermine the shared values underpinning Israeli society," he added. "We vehemently reject that attempt to spread hatred and violence and will work to prosecute the murderer to the full extent of the law." As of Sunday afternoon two of those wounded in the attack alongside Banki were still in serious condition and remained hospitalized, though medical officials said their condition was improving. Three of the other people wounded in the attack were released home after suffering lighter injuries. Opposition Chairman Isaac Herzog (Zionist Union) also issued a statement, saying Banki was a victim of "Jewish terror". "I cry for Shira… she is the age of my children. We will not tolerate violence, racism or LGBT-phobia of any kind," he said, reiterating his demand that the prime minister outlaw extreme right-wing groups which he said "incite hatred" in Israel. Education Minister Naftali Bennett (Habayit Hayehudi) said in a statement: "It's a dark day for Israel… in which a high school girl is murdered for her opinions and positions." "There is no principle in the world worth the life of a young girl," said Bennett, who was supposed to address an LGBT rally Saturday evening, but canceled after refusing to sign a commitment to act on behalf of the gay community. This is "a day in which we became darkness unto the nations instead of a being light unto the nations," he added. On Saturday, thousands of Israelis took to the streets to protest the stabbing as well as a deadly arson attack in the West Bank that saw a Palestinian infant killed. "Flames have engulfed our country," President Reuven Rivlin said at the rally in Jerusalem's Zion Square. "Flames of violence, flames of hatred, flames of false, distorted and twisted beliefs." An estimated 10,000 people turned up for a rally in Tel Aviv's Gan Meir, which was already planned to mark six years since two people were killed in a shooting at Barnoar, a Tel Aviv gay youth center. Former Israeli president Shimon Peres was also in attendance. The attacker, Schlissel, was sentenced for 12 years in prison for the 2005 attack after his conviction on charges of attempted murder and aggravated assault. However, in 2007, following an appeal, the Supreme Court mitigated his sentence to 10 years. He was deemed sane and fit to face trial on Friday. After his release, Schlissel returned to his hometown, where residents said that he distributed hand-written pamphlets in which he called on "all Jews faithful to God" to risk "beatings and imprisonment" for the sake of preventing the parade. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Aug 3 00:45:34 2015, in response to Re: Girl has Died: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 20, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 2 23:54:19 2015. Unbelievably awful. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 3 01:49:40 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 2 22:20:00 2015. As opposed to religion where your morality is based on whichever work of ancient* fiction you like best?*Or modern fiction if you're a Mormon. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 3 03:29:47 2015, in response to Re: Girl has Died: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 20, posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 2 23:54:19 2015. Very sad. RIP young lady. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 3 07:57:12 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:40:57 2015. In other words, it's OK to annihilate a nation if they are so bad that G-d directly and very clearly says to annihilate them.How do I know I'm hearing God and not voices in my head associated with paranoid schizophrenia? What if President Huckabee and his entire cabinet say God has told them to destroy Israel so that the second coming can take place? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 3 13:00:38 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 3 07:57:12 2015. How do I know I'm hearing God and not voices in my head associated with paranoid schizophrenia?Because during the times described in the Torah, and during select times after, ending with the destruction of the Second Temple, G-d's presence was pretty obvious and well known and the proff could be (and was) seen by many people. What if President Huckabee and his entire cabinet say God has told them to destroy Israel so that the second coming can take place?From the Jewish perspective, that would be a bunch of baloney. Christians may believe it though. I don't know how their prophet/prophesy system works. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 3 16:15:27 2015, in response to Re: Six stabbed at Jerusalem pride parade by same assailant who attacked parade in 2005, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 3 07:57:12 2015. Sounds more like president obama or his former Secretary of state. |
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