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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 19 14:35:13 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:34:05 2014. bullshit |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 19 14:35:18 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:34:05 2014. bullshit |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:40:09 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 14:33:04 2014. I agree about caring for ALL people, BUT at the same time, you KNOW why they both met their demise and you can't truly say that you're surprised or outraged at said results. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 14:40:14 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:34:05 2014. OK, so you think it's unreasonable for a former EMS worker, who has no doubt seen plenty of victims of violence, march to protest that a stupid petty thief died at the hands of the police?Sure, you think Garner brought it all on himself. I'm not sure how much recklessness the police engaged in but I wouldn't join a protest march. But why can't you even see how a former EMS worker might have strong enough respect for life that the case disturbs him? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:42:12 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 14:40:14 2014. Who is the petty thief?The case can disturb him, I have no problem with that, BUT it should come as no surprise that it came to that. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 14:48:36 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:42:12 2014. Who is the petty thief?Eric Garner was being arrested for selling individual untaxed cigarettes. With each sale of a cigarette, he was stealing about $.50 from the people of New York State. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 15:11:16 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:12:54 2014. Here, the police officer is the "perp." and Brown's friend is a bystander. The officer testimony is more self-serving than that of Brown's friend. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Dec 19 15:13:09 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 19 13:30:29 2014. WADL! I do no such thing. And others do what I do. Why are you so dumb? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 15:51:10 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 14:48:36 2014. There's MORE to his story than that. It's much, much more than loosies. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 15:53:40 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 15:11:16 2014. Wrong. No matter how many times you try to slice and dice it, the facts remain the same. Aren't you a lawyer? "Bystander" my ass! More like "Co-Defendant". Psst! Here's a newsflash... Perp's LIE!! Shocking, I know!!! |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 16:05:23 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 15:51:10 2014. Well, no one, not even the head of the PBA, is claiming that Garner was being arrested for anything other than selling loose cigarettes. What could be so secret, and so supportive of the police story, that even Patrick Lynch wouldn't be willing to say it? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 16:07:51 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 15:53:40 2014. I think you should actually read what Spider-Pig wrote. Just because he says Wilson's testimony was more self-serving than that of Brown's friend, doesn't necessarily mean that Wilson is lying and Brown's friend is telling the truth. |
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Posted by WillD on Fri Dec 19 16:18:42 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 14:34:05 2014. Some "Centerist" you turned out to be. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:50:43 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 19 15:51:10 2014. No one on either side of the Garner case has suggested that the incident arose out of anything other than loosies. Moreover, even if Garner was suspected of a felony, the police could have, should have taken him into custody without killing him.Consider a different case for a moment. Maksim Gelman, a white man from Brighton Beach, ran rampant through Brooklyn for two days, killing four and severely injuring five, before somehow finding his way onto a (3) train at Times Square. After cutting one of the passengers open from ear to ear, he began banging on the train operator's cab door. When the two cops inside (who were among those assigned to look for him) emerged from the cab, Gelman, bloody knife in hand, charged the cops. By some miracle of incredible human restraint, the cops were able to disarm and arrest Gelman without injuring him at all. Compare and contrast with Eric Garner, who couldn't be placed under arrest for a very trivial offense, without having the life choked out of him. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 19 16:57:21 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:50:43 2014. Other than perhaps salham, no one here is suggesting that the police intended to kill eric garner. I certainly hope that you aren't. If the shoe were on the other foot and you had to arrest grner. what would you have done? - hit him with a tranquilizer dart, perhaps. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:58:54 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 19 16:57:21 2014. I would have written Garner a C-summons for selling loosies, and sent him home. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 19 17:04:58 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 19 16:57:21 2014. wtf ? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:28:10 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:58:54 2014. That's what they tried to do.He resisted and backup was called. He did everything to escalate the situation. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:31:39 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:28:10 2014. Really? Considering that there were five cops on the scene before anyone even attempted to arrest Garner, how did he "escalate" the situation? By trying to breathe? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 17:33:07 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:31:39 2014. Flailing his arms, maybe? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Dec 19 17:34:03 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:28:10 2014. I am about to go after randyo in the IND Eighth Avenue Line thread. He is talking signaling which is my calling card. I am going over there to defeat him. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:34:39 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 17:33:07 2014. If you were being choked to death, I'm sure your arms would be "flailing", too! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:36:08 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 17:33:07 2014. He didn't just flail his arms, he told police to leave him alone and that he's not going to jail. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:36:53 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Dec 19 17:34:03 2014. I hate randyo. Hope you beat him in a thread.Honestly I think you're a threat to aviation. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:39:22 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:31:39 2014. First they tried to give him the summons. The mouse looking, probably affirmative-action cops, and he argued with them. When you tell cops you won't accept a summons, they call for backup.Five cops were not originally on the scene. Two were there first, then more came. I |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Dec 19 17:39:30 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:36:53 2014. Thanks! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:44:44 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 17:39:22 2014. The cops never attempted to give Garner a ticket. That was established in Bratton's own report on the incident. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 18:02:47 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:34:39 2014. Before they got him down he was flailing his arms. Watch him. He's stepping up to the cops and throwing his arms around like he's talking to some other street peeps. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 19:00:33 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 17:44:44 2014. He'd then get a DAT.But give cops shit like he was and they'll take you down. Look and listen to his confrontation. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 19:07:10 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:50:43 2014. LOL @ Gelman.You're such ELEMENT!!!! What about the black guys who gunned down two NYPD officers in Brooklyn? They were taken in alive(much to the approval of the community who was rooting for them to get away or be taken in alive). Didn't cops kill some white guy in Manhattan a few months ago? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Dec 19 19:30:31 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 18:02:47 2014. j-z,didn`t you read my post on how the chief of the nypd,philip bank A BLACK MAN HIMSELF ordered the arrest of eric gardner BY NAME ? no summons,he was to be put thru the system,no summons was to be issued. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 19:46:28 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Dec 19 19:30:31 2014. I haven't actually seen any published accounts of this. I think it's highly improbable that a four-star chief would concern himself with a petty offender like Garner, over loosies, at that. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 19 20:00:26 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Dec 19 15:13:09 2014. Yes you do!!! You refuse to stop!! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Dec 19 20:06:58 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 19:46:28 2014. it was in all the new York papers.when you get hundreds of complaints against the same person over x amount of time action must be taken. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 20:21:54 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 16:07:51 2014. THANK YOU! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 19 20:38:37 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 22:31:39 2014. We should have a SubChat Summit at a kosher deli. lol |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 19 20:40:54 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 19 20:38:37 2014. I'm there if there's hors radish.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 19 20:42:45 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 15 15:22:35 2014. Yeah, who would clearly be the most credible witness in history! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 21:04:33 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:50:43 2014. Garner was frail and in ill health. His death was brought upon by that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 21:11:19 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 18:02:47 2014. Yes, exactly. The flailing was before any officer made contact with him. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 22:30:18 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 21:04:33 2014. Garner was choked to death, as per the medical examiner's findings, and the video. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 23:31:17 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 16:07:51 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 23:33:49 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 21:11:19 2014. The JayZeeBMT ELEMENT is blind to reality.But we know that. His segment of society thrives on victimhood. THIW. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 20 00:01:42 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:58:54 2014. Now that's nonsense. When the police tell you to do something you do it. Non-negotiable. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Dec 20 00:09:10 2014, in response to Millions March!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 13 10:07:21 2014. ... we need to return to the principle that no one is above the law.We can't return to a principle we never had in the first place. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 20 02:17:25 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 19 16:58:54 2014. There was a sergeant on the scene. She agreed that he needed to be arrested. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 20 05:57:54 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Dec 19 14:24:16 2014. JayzeeBMT is a bona fide American Hero. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 20 06:54:41 2014, in response to Re: Millions March!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 23:31:17 2014. It gratifes me to be a source of amusement to you! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 20 06:57:20 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 19 21:04:33 2014. I would say that it is very clear that both the police officer and Garner contributed to Garner's death. The only question is whether the police officer's contribution was sufficiently reckless as to be criminal activity, or not. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 20 06:58:24 2014, in response to Re: Did Millions March?, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 20 00:01:42 2014. Your statement may be wise advice for maintaining personal safety, but it is contrary to the Constitution. |
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