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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:54 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:53:52 2014.

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What cats?

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:19:01 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 15:24:03 2014.

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No, the only place roommates may come into play is with shared housing and utilities costs.

The website demanded the information in question.

All policies on the ACA are FORBIDDEN to NOT cover pre-existing conditions.

The NSA is forbidden to read my email but that doesn't stop them.

Policies can't deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions, but the ACA doesn't require them to cover my conditions in the first place, so it's easy for them to simply switch "pre-existing condition" for something generic like "not covered" or "out of network" on the denial form.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:19:05 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 13:30:58 2014.

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It's what the website wanted.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:12:02 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:17:54 2014.

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I think you need to revisit the site. My sons both applied and such a question regarding roommates never came up.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:12:38 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:28 2014.

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I know many who do.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:19:11 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:39 2014.

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"Single payer is synonymous with health care reform. "

False. Change occurs in incremental steps in this country.

"Thus far, it's been impossible to do."

8 million enrollees would disagree with you.

"Besides, it's not like the exchanges will offer any decent plans."

False. My sons both got good coverage.

"I'm inclined to doubt it would cover the conditions I currently have."

Don't know what you have, but it covers ALL pre-existing conditions.

"Because for me, the "network" contains zero doctors. "

That is factually impossible.

"it technically exists but you'd never be able to afford it. "

Do you have low enough income to qualify for subsidies? If so, it is affordable. If not, your income should be high enough to afford it.

Based on how your experience differs so grossly from my own and that of millions of others, I would say you somehow failed to try to navigate the exchange properly.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:20:07 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:19:01 2014.

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None of this makes any sense.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 14 19:10:22 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:12:02 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 14 19:10:46 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:17:54 2014.

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Wait, so you really have unrelated roommates?

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:52:35 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 14 19:10:46 2014.

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Does it matter to you?

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:12 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:20:07 2014.

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That it doesn't make sense to you does not stop it from being the hell I'm currently living in.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:45 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:19:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
False. Change occurs in incremental steps in this country.

This country also has a long history of using small changes to prevent otherwise inevitable reform.

False. My sons both got good coverage.

What plan do they have? I'll look into it.

Don't know what you have, but it covers ALL pre-existing conditions.

No, it doesn't exclude conditions because they are pre-existing. There are plenty of conditions that it just won't cover, period.

That is factually impossible.

Then please do come up with a list of relevant specialists who are "in-network" because I have yet to find any.

Do you have low enough income to qualify for subsidies? If so, it is affordable.

The subsidies only cover premiums. There are no subsidies to cover the ~$15,000 out of pocket costs I incur annually because my insurance doesn't cover anything.

Based on how your experience differs so grossly from my own and that of millions of others...

You and millions of others are in perfect health. I'd say that's the key difference here.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:50 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 18:12:38 2014.

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Maybe many who think they do. A lot of people thought they had great insurance until they got sick.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 22:49:07 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:45 2014.

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One has Emblem and one has Empire, in NY City.

You may be right that a number of networks exclude certain specialists. Have you asked the specialists you use or need which Exchange plans they accept?

For next year, the networks are supposed to be better and less exclusionary. Try again in November. I hope you find something.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 01:14:35 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Oct 14 22:49:07 2014.

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Yes. They accept nothing— they're out of network for every plan listed on the exchanges, though they take some non-exchange plans.

They also take Medicare, otherwise known as single payer, but apparently I'm not allowed to have that.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:23:55 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:28 2014.

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A lot of people. AFAIK my benefits have not got significantly worse.

So you claim to have a job that offers sucky health insurance??? I don't see you having a job. At least not one with human coworkers.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:37:42 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:19:05 2014.

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Are you SURE?

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:38:33 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:54 2014.

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They set up us the bomb.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:55:33 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think many of us take pleasure in knowing that you are living in a hell. Please do continue.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:57:42 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:44 2014.

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You know what I meant. Answer the question.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:58:29 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:47 2014.

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Tough noogies. They live with you, this is what they have to deal with. Let's meet them.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:59:52 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:52:35 2014.

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Well I'm asking, aren't I?

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by train dude on Wed Oct 15 15:11:08 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:12 2014.

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Stop cheering me up. Your misery=my pleasure

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by train dude on Wed Oct 15 15:11:18 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 21:53:12 2014.

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Stop cheering me up. Your misery=my pleasure

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:48 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:37:42 2014.

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Yes.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:49 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:38:33 2014.

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No, my cats are cool and would never do anything like that. Though if something is particularly awesome, they may describe it as "da bomb."

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:01 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:55:33 2014.

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I suppose it could be worse— I could be stuck with your life.

Knowing that your wife divorced you because you can't hold down a job in a mailroom helps me get through the day! :)

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:04 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:57:42 2014.

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I already did.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:05 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:59:52 2014.

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And I'm answering.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:07 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:58:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Tough noogies.

So you're saying that your "right" to meet them trumps their right to be left alone?

That's the sort of "logic" you normally only hear from stalkers, sexual harassers, and rapists.

They live with you, this is what they have to deal with.

Yes and surprisingly none of them have any problem with me. My guess is that it's because they're not autistic. Basic social skills make it easier to live with other people— as your ex-wife has likely discovered by now.

Let's meet them.

I may have mentioned you in passing, and it seems the general consensus is that you're a miserable little man and no one wants anything to do with you. Apparently, I'm the only one who thinks pointing at stupid people is funny, although the time(s) I goaded you into acting out Monty Python sketches without any inkling of what was happening did earn a few chuckles.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:13 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by train dude on Wed Oct 15 15:11:08 2014.

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Your literalism = funny.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:19 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:23:55 2014.

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A lot of people. AFAIK my benefits have not got significantly worse.

OK, what plan do you have? I'd love to see if it covers my doctor.

So you claim to have a job that offers sucky health insurance??? I don't see you having a job. At least not one with human coworkers.

Ah, here's the lack of a theory of mind again— you lack the social skills to hold down a job (even in a mailroom) so you assume everyone else must.

The trick is to find coworkers who aren't autistic manchildren like you.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:40:00 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:05 2014.

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No you're not.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:43:59 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:07 2014.

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So you're saying that your "right" to meet them trumps their right to be left alone?

That's the sort of "logic" you normally only hear from stalkers, sexual harassers, and rapists.
Correct. Yes, see my handle?

Yes and surprisingly none of them have any problem with me.
Haha, I doubt that VERY MUCH! I call shens!!!

I may have mentioned you in passing, and it seems the general consensus is that you're a miserable little man and no one wants anything to do with you. Apparently, I'm the only one who thinks pointing at stupid people is funny, although the time(s) I goaded you into acting out Monty Python sketches without any inkling of what was happening did earn a few chuckles.
Let's meet them.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:44:36 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:04 2014.

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No you didn't. What is your existing medical condition?

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:45:31 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:01 2014.

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At least I'm not living in a hell though. So I win!

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:25 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:40:00 2014.

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Yes I did. In fact, I answered your question before you even asked it.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:27 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:43:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Correct. Yes, see my handle?

So you're saying you're actually a stalker/sexual harasser/rapist?

Haha, I doubt that VERY MUCH! I call shens!!!

The wonderful thing about facts is that the remain true even when autistic manchildren on the internet don't believe them.

Let's meet them.

They would not like to meet you.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:29 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:44:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No you didn't.

Yes, I did. You asked an absurdly personal question, so I told you to fuck off in a polite and indirect fashion by deliberately misinterpreting your question and giving you an unhelpful answer.

Unfortunately, due to your failure to understand nuance and context, it went right over your head.

What is your existing medical condition?

Let me guess, you need it spelled out literally for you without need for nuance and context?

None of your business. Now fuck off.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:39 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 20:45:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Aw, nuance and context went right over your head again, didn't it?

As I said: I suppose it could be worse— I could be stuck with your life.

Ergo, mine is better. Looks like I "win" instead.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 11:01:32 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:19 2014.

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OK, what plan do you have? I'd love to see if it covers my doctor.
I didn't get it from the exchange. And I doubt it has your doctor anyhow.

Ah, here's the lack of a theory of mind again— you lack the social skills to hold down a job (even in a mailroom) so you assume everyone else must. The trick is to find coworkers who aren't autistic manchildren like you.
No, that's not what I'm saying. My point stands. I doubt you have a real job, or at least one with human coworkers.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 11:10:17 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No you didn't. You could be lying.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 19 12:08:39 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:27 2014.

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Looks like he wants to show you his handle. I'd take pics and post them. :)

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 13:45:04 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 19 12:08:39 2014.

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Ok, come on down.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 13:45:29 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, No, and too bad. My points stand.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 13:46:33 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So what you are saying is that you have no existing medical condition not covered by insurance and you're making the whole thing up. Thank you. Go back to your hell now.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 13:46:59 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 05:11:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. I'm not living in a hell like you are. I win!!

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 19 13:59:20 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 13:46:33 2014.

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You join him.

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 19 14:01:58 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 13:46:59 2014.

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YOU BOTH GO TO HELL!

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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 14:24:42 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 19 13:59:20 2014.

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Nope. But you can. Though I wouldn't wish it on you.

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