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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 15:24:03 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 11:22:05 2014. Heh? No, the only place roommates may come into play is with shared housing and utilities costs. Other wise, any single adult's "family income" is limited to what they and they alone make. Unless you marry or are married to one of your roommates. Then ou gotta count them too. I suspect we have crickets on that one. :-)Same goes for their insurance. All policies on the ACA are FORBIDDEN to NOT cover pre-existing conditions. That' s an important part....probably THE most important part of ACA. Yeah, it's by no means a perfect system but there's still a lot to like here. Right ow you are a single person household with an income of erm and expenses of herp. Feed those numbers (not erm and herp, let's fook around with it later once you have a policy) into the system and see what pops up. If you're under 26 you can ask your parents if they can put you on their policy. |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 15:37:52 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 13:34:01 2014. You do realize that reason that rate is that low, is because that does not include the ones that left the job market? |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 15:39:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 15:37:52 2014. But that has ALWAYS been the case in defining that rate. |
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Re: time for that apology,Willard.....Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 15:55:33 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 13:34:01 2014. I never knew he had one. Seriously. He never said how he was going to reduce unemployment to under 6% in four years, as best I can recall |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 15:57:53 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 15:39:06 2014. What is the REAL unemployment rate? |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 16:05:13 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:27:19 2014. You do not know Selkirk. Never met him. |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 16:39:56 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Oct 7 09:44:31 2014. Heh. Pat Paulsen did it for giggles. Stassen was dead serious. :)I still wish Irwin Corey had gotten the nomination though. |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 16:52:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 10:25:08 2014. Yep ... and ACA left it in the hands of the insurance companies instead of adding it to Medicare which is what Teddy Kennedy wanted to do. Who picks the doctors that can be part of the network? Who decides what the insurance plans will be? Not any politician ... |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 16:54:51 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 15:57:53 2014. No such thing. There are different ways of measuring unemployment, that's all. |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 17:42:43 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 16:52:06 2014. obama lied and you know it. |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:44:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 16:54:51 2014. And as long as the same scale is used for both comparisons (Romney's and Obama's) then it's all good. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:50:51 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 17:42:43 2014. Obama believed what the insurance companies told him when the deal was made. You seem to keep missing the fact that all those "terms and conditions" are made by the insurance companies, not the government.Now Obama COULD go slap their asses, but then you'd all be crying "commie!" So just bend over and enjoy that "invisible hand of the free marketplace" checking out your prostate. :( |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 17:53:29 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 13:34:01 2014. Yup - counting those part time jobs as "employed" sure makes a difference |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:55:11 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 17:53:29 2014. They always HAVE been counted that way. Reagan removed "underemployed" as a category. |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 17:56:02 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 16:54:51 2014. What do you mean no such thing? The unemployment stats are of those still collecting unemployment benifits, not the ones that no longer can find work. Is there another way you want me to put it? |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 17:56:58 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:44:06 2014. Do You understand what I was saying? |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:59:38 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 17:56:58 2014. Yes, but it's still incorrect. The current employment standards go back to the Reagan era. Now you're not trying to tell us Ronnie was fibbing, are ya? :) |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 7 18:04:28 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:55:11 2014. IAWTP |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:05:54 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:55:11 2014. Train Dude knows he is full of it. Both Romney and Obama used the same scale. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 18:06:25 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 7 18:04:28 2014. Aren't you the guy who's keeping the unemployment number up for zerobama? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 18:09:25 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:05:54 2014. When you have to go back more than 30 years to hopefully make a point, you know you are pushing a losing argument. How much spending power has the middle class lost in the past 6 years? How much is household income for the middle class down in the last 6 years? You are actually going too far, yo! Salaam will agree with you without you having to ask. |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:11:23 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:50:51 2014. Admit obama lied to us. |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:12:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 18:09:25 2014. The lost spending power and household income decline started 30 years ago. So thank you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:13:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:12:06 2014. Arguing with members of the herp derp party. Lulz |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:13:36 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:13:06 2014. I generally refuse to engage with him. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:15:42 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 17:59:38 2014. You understand, but it's still incorrect? smh |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 18:16:15 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:12:06 2014. That's bullshit but I asked about it over the last 6 years. Did you elect zerobama to make things better or just fail like carter did? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:18:05 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:13:06 2014. Klutz. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 18:21:27 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:15:42 2014. He's saying it's been incorrect since the Reaganpeople changed the formula if anything. Sort of like if New Coke had caught on. |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:22:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:11:23 2014. Admit Ronald Reagan put this nation into the dumper we're standing in. |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:23:30 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 18:21:27 2014. LW HATER! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:26:13 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:22:06 2014. HELL NO! Admit that you are for a one party rule. |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:28:15 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 18:13:36 2014. It can be fun sometimes. Just down a little way from here is a state facility run by OMRDD (I think they've euphemized and changed the agency name since) and every now and then, one of the "clients" escapes and we have to go out, turn them around and send them back. One of the women stands out there yelling at the cows every day.So I'm pretty used to dealing with the Train Dudes of the world. It can be fun, but sometimes it gets tiring and you just wish that their keepers weren't so overloaded with work to the point that they don't even notice them missing from the reservation. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:29:12 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:18:05 2014. Schlep. :) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:33:18 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:29:12 2014. schlemiel |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:33:55 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:15:42 2014. Acceptance is not acquiescence. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:37:34 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:33:55 2014. I'm getting too tired. I'm hungry. Argue with you later. Moo! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:39:18 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:37:34 2014. Ernk! :) |
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Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:41:02 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:26:13 2014. I'd rather see us do it like the Netherlands. So many parties that none can rule. Remember, I worked in government. No matter WHO gets elected, we outlive them. Best government is one that's in recess and out campaigning. Albany is a lovely place when the fucktards all go home. :) |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:54:14 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:33:18 2014. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 19:25:15 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 18:41:02 2014. So you're for a parliamentary system? |
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Re: Romney's Economic Plan |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 7 19:44:39 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 7 18:06:25 2014. nopenext !! lol |
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Re: Romney Derangement Syndrome |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 7 19:58:50 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 15:37:52 2014. Correct. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 7 20:04:19 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 19:25:15 2014. I would actually prefer the original two party bicameral system that our founding fathers created. But since the uniparty insists on doing nothing more than thuggery these days, I would advocate something more like the parliamentary style they have in Taiwan. :)
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Oct 7 20:30:06 2014, in response to Re: Romney's Economic Plan, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 7 18:23:30 2014. Hater of what? Injustice? Inequality? Broken opportunity? That's about it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:17:54 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 13:36:35 2014. That's apparently what the site wanted. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:28 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:56:08 2014. Who gets (decent) health benefits these days? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:39 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 7 13:30:07 2014. They thought -- rightly -- that it would poison the possibility of passing any health care reform.Single payer is synonymous with health care reform. They were worried that supporting health care reform would "poison" the chance of passing health care reform? Come on, they had complete control of government. If they wanted something passed, they'd have passed it. Right - so use the exchanges. It's not very hard to do. Thus far, it's been impossible to do. Besides, it's not like the exchanges will offer any decent plans. Very. It covers almost the same as my good employer-provided insurance. That's not really saying much. My dad is some big-time executive and lobbyist and his insurance is barely any better than mine. There are higher deductibles and co-pays, but the price is right and it covers most conditions, including pre-existing, thanks to Obamacare. I'm inclined to doubt it would cover the conditions I currently have. The network is smaller, but they found very good doctors in the network. What kind of doctors? Because for me, the "network" contains zero doctors. Period. Not with my current insurance, not with my old insurance, not even with my dad's insurance before I turned 26. You really need to get on the exchanges next month and look hard for a good policy. It is there. I found one just across the border in Quebec but they didn't let me use it. :( South of the border, "good policy" is about as easy to find as antihydrogen— it technically exists but you'd never be able to afford it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:44 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:55:09 2014. A plan that doesn't pay for them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:47 2014, in response to Re: Romney: It’s Time For Obama ‘To Apologize To America’, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:54:36 2014. They would not like to meet you. |
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