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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:48:24 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 30 12:34:47 2014. Good for them. I don't care about religious Zionism as I am not religious. I'm still a Zionist. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 12:53:06 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 10:38:57 2014. Dont be coy with your words now... Too late on that one buddy |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 12:55:05 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 11:32:42 2014. So? And muslims and christians can make the same claims. Religion doesnt equate a guranteed right to claim land. Lets try this again. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 12:58:42 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:47:54 2014. So much for you being a proud Jew. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:59:39 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 12:58:42 2014. I can still be a proud Jew without engaging in superstition. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:02:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:59:39 2014. You do not believe in the Torah? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:03:24 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 11:21:05 2014. +888888 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:03:50 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 11:10:05 2014. Reading comprehension 101 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 13:05:46 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:02:59 2014. I do not believe that it is a factual account of historical events. But most of it isn't written that way anyway. The Torah is the law. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:06:25 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 09:42:42 2014. Assuming that's the clip I was referring to, thanks. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:07:02 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 13:05:46 2014. Do you believe in the existence of G_d? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:07:15 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 11:20:19 2014. :) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:08:29 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 10:14:53 2014. Again, good morning Bingbong. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:11:52 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 30 08:20:10 2014. Exactly as I said. Again, I agree with most of your posts, yet you seem to have a personal issue with me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:12:22 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:11:52 2014. You're starting to get it! I'm impressed! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:14:39 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:11:52 2014. Let me just clarify that what you're starting to get is that it's not about politics. I wasn't saying that you were correct that I have a personal issue with you. Because I don't. I have issues with what you say. Not with who you are. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:15:28 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:12:22 2014. I find it bizarre that I agree with you on about 90% of things, yet you have a grudge against me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:18:01 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:31:26 2014. You, like bingbong, should learn to read.And that fact that he's a lawyer is really, really scary. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:19:07 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:14:39 2014. I'm baffled. We should be allies, not enemies. Because of the fact I agree with you so often, I don't know what the problem is? I am calling for a truce. I don't want a war with you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:21:21 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 13:05:46 2014. Can we rephrase it like this?"I do not believe that it is always a literal account of historical events." |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:33:18 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:19:07 2014. OK, but I'm not sure from what. Except in super rare occurrences, I think all/any criticism toward you from me was directly the result of, and directly in response to, something smacking-my-damn-head wrong/ridiculous/condescending/mean that you wrote. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 30 13:40:14 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:47:54 2014. The Bible is fictional and should not be used as a justification for the existence of Israel. Such a justification falls flat for me.Whether you believe in the religious aspects of the Bible or not, there is enough historical evidence, particularly in the Nevi'im and Ketuvim, that at some point the Jews showed up, annihilated the Canaanites, and inhabited the land for a while. That pretty much kills the Palestinian argument that they deserve the land because they were there first. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 13:46:09 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 11:20:19 2014. I dsagree. I' worked in a bank once as a 'on call seasonal' reconciliator working on NYS tax deposit accounts. I was paid the equivalent of $42,000/yr had the job been full time with no benefits. The permanent full time people were paid $12,000 to start with benefits, full medical dental and vision. The management usually hird young single parrents with some college because thye were excellent workers, would show up and they helped each and every one of them get the maximum EITC every year. ("Your taxes done by us" was another "benefit")They were gaming labor and tax law and "pretending" it was a benefit in order to pay starvation wages. The total value of their compensation was noting compared to what they were paying me, although I worked 2 out of 3 months. Yes, I never worked ore than eleven weeks continuous when I was there. I doubt they are the only employer doing this. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 13:48:06 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 11:21:05 2014. Yes I do. Hence i caught your inference that you agree with Friedman on that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:53:42 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 30 13:40:14 2014. I suspect that that's what he was getting at. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 13:55:39 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:03:50 2014. I read it just fine. He implied he agrees. You should try it sometime. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:55:57 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 13:48:06 2014. No you don't. Because you caught the wrong inference. Try again. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:57:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 13:55:39 2014. No you didn't. No he didn't. No I won't! I don't ever want to try whatever you're doing because you're doing it all wrong.It is very clear from the discussion that he DISAGREES with him, not agrees. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 14:03:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:33:18 2014. Is that a yes or a no to a truce? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 14:04:06 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:31:36 2014. Exactly. Liberal Israel-hating traitors of the Uniparty. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 14:08:06 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:55:02 2014. Why does it matter if Hamas has rockets to fire? They may have ramped up their launching but they're a completely ineffective weapon. One civilian death resulting from all the rockets they've fired makes them possibly the least effective weapon ever fielded. Why use those rockets as a pretense for war and force Hamas to adopt other tactics which could prove more effective? Let them keep squandering their efforts on those unguided rockets. Israel can stop the killing now and likely end up in a superior position than they'll be able to if they pursue full disarmament in Gaza. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 30 14:34:23 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:48:24 2014. But you said that Zionism was a secular movement that had nothing to do with religion. You were in error. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 14:40:05 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 12:53:06 2014. Don't be an ignoramus, then. Where did I mention race? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 14:44:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 14:08:06 2014. One civilian death because the Israeli Iron Dome is so effective. Geez - are you that blind to the reality of the situation? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jul 30 14:44:51 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 30 14:34:23 2014. One doesn't have to be religious in order to be a Zionist. Herzl was most definitely not religious. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jul 30 14:47:43 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 14:08:06 2014. Dude, the only reason there's only been a few civilian deaths is because Israel has an (expensive) anti-missile system, which has largely been able to get the ones that have been a threat. If somebody were to shoot at you with a gun with obvious intent to kill, but missed, would you just ignore him/her? Even if they chase after you when you try to take cover? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 30 14:50:15 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 09:37:41 2014. ??wtf ? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 30 14:57:50 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jul 30 14:44:51 2014. One doesn't have to be religious in order to be a Zionist. Herzl was most definitely not religious.And one doesn't have to be a Zionist to be religious. Satmarim, for example. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 15:41:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 14:44:19 2014. Numerous reports confirm that the Iron Dome is itself an ineffective weapon, much like the use of the Patriot PAC-2 in the first Gulf War. Both sides are fighting with weapons that are totally subpar, but only one is inflicting mass casualties on the other side. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 30 15:42:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 14:08:06 2014. Are you kidding? They are "ineffective" because Israel's defense keeps shooting them down. They have shot thousands of rockets, which luckily Israel was able to defend against. So it's not a problem that they are shooting rockets at Israel because Israel shoots them down becfore they can do damage? How warped can some of you people be? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 15:47:33 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 14:40:05 2014. No one needs a degree to read through your words, please dont play stupid. Civil rights...slavery....welfare.... IF (and we know otherwise) you werent intending it to sound racial you sure as hell failed to make a clear point it wasnt. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 15:56:55 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 12:47:54 2014. Funny you say that and everything it says is coming true, especially the prophecies.BTW, you've just called yourself an Israel-hater by justifying the Koran. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 15:57:58 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 11:47:46 2014. Bullshit. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 15:58:43 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 11:47:46 2014. Bullshit.Even Hamas knows there's a religious justification. They keep plying the notion incessantly. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 15:59:13 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 30 12:30:22 2014. Yeah, and why bother with Jerusalem or the Temple Mount? Just give it all to the Muslims, right? or the Catholics, even. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:00:13 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:18:01 2014. Spider-Pigface just insulted your religious beliefs, stupid. Calling Zionism "secular" means absolutely no Jewish claim to Jerusalem or the Temple Mount—and that's for starters. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:01:29 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 30 15:42:19 2014. I see he still didn't read the Hamas charter yet, which calls for genocide of the Jews. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:04:03 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:21:21 2014. No, if you are as religious as you claim to be at least. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:23:25 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 15:47:33 2014. Instead of pretending to be intellectually capable of ascribing motives to what I post, why don't you just respond to the content. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:25:55 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 15:41:19 2014. "Numerous reports confirm that the Iron Dome is itself an ineffective weapon,.........."Bingbong school of journalism? I would love to see some of those numerous reports from credible sources. |
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