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Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 09:41:17 2014

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Here.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Jul 23 11:33:51 2014, in response to Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 09:41:17 2014.

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Ben Stein? Ben Stein? RU farkin serious?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 11:48:00 2014, in response to Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 09:41:17 2014.

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Ben Stein is a creationist.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 12:17:25 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Jul 23 11:33:51 2014.

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Let me guess, you don't like Ben Stein.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 12:28:54 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Jul 23 11:33:51 2014.

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Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 12:29:19 2014, in response to Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 09:41:17 2014.

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Newsmax is not a valid source.

It's idiot-bait. They offer right wing news, knowing that the sort of people who voluntarily sign up for that are all gullible dipshits, and then sell the mailing list to overpriced gold hawkers and medical quacks and other scammers who want a list of confirmed gullible dipshits to market at.

Incidentally, they also paid something like $0.15 per signup with absolutely no verification that the signups are legitimate, so I made a small but respectable amount of money signing up before they caught on.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 13:07:43 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 12:29:19 2014.

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And the 99% of media which is liberal is?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 13:13:49 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 13:07:43 2014.

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You mean the 99% of media which are conservative? Meh. They vary. If Fox says the sky is blue, you need to double check, but CNN can generally be trusted to get the most basic facts right; they generally limit themselves to false equivalences where they pretend a right wing liar is just as qualified to talk about science as an actual scientist, etc. If you know going in who's qualified to speak on a subject and who can be ignored, you can generally trust the basics, but you still have to be careful about false attributions and keep in mind that they often omit pertinent facts.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 13:16:40 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 12:17:25 2014.

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He is a creationist. No reasonable person should like what he says.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 13:21:06 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 13:13:49 2014.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:22:33 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 13:16:40 2014.

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People who were manufactured never like people who were created.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:28:14 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 11:48:00 2014.

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So? I don't see anything in the article that attributes modern Jew hatred to Evolutionists or Chuck Darwin.

Could you prepare a list of people who you are willing to discount any reasoned thing they write because they hold an opinion you deem foolish?


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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 13:33:30 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:28:14 2014.

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Believing in creationism shows poor judgment and reasoning. He may well be right, but it would essentially be coïncidental if he were. Like the proverbial monkeys at typewriters. So I really have no interest in his reasoning about anything.

Would you believe anything that a flat-earther says?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 13:36:38 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:28:14 2014.

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So? I don't see anything in the article that attributes modern Jew hatred to Evolutionists or Chuck Darwin.

It doesn't matter. Evolution denialism is dumb enough that it casts aspersions on anything one might say afterwards.

After all, if someone claimed that HIV doesn't actually exist, would you believe them when they said raw milk was good for you? Even if you didn't know anything about raw milk?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 13:36:53 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 13:21:06 2014.

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File the anxiety bomb.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 23 13:48:04 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 13:33:30 2014.

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Amazingly, I have met one creationist who was a quite gifted mathematician.



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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:56:42 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 13:33:30 2014.

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Some very brilliant scientists have been dead wrong about issues outside their core discipline.

Even such intelligent people as Friedrich Engels, in trying to connect Marxist theory to natural phenomena (and vice versa) made some foolish and unsupportable assertions. Should I reject out of hand anything he wrote?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 14:03:01 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:56:42 2014.

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Yes, you should. And being wrong about evolution in the 19th Century was OK, but the time for that has passed. It's also not an obscure theory that anyone who's not a biologist could be unaware of it.

And seriously, Friedrich Engels is your example? I would definitely dismiss out of hand anything he or Marx wrote.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:05:16 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 13:36:38 2014.

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After all, if someone claimed that HIV doesn't actually exist, would you believe them when they said raw milk was good for you?

Well, I don't think raw milk is good for me for the same reasons Louis Pasteur cited (and I happen to know of people who became deathly ill from it in an earlier era) but that is nevertheless rather of a non-sequitur. If someone who was a PhD in evolutionary theory told me that raw milk was good for me I would not take it as true just on his say-so.

OTOH, if I was in rural Georgia and I asked a local man where a town was, I wouldn't discount his answer if he said "It's about two miles ahead on the Augusta Road. Get there safe, praise Jesus!" I doubt I would discount his directions.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 14:07:15 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:05:16 2014.

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Nothing wrong with either wanting a stranger to be safe or praising Jesus.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:10:52 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 14:03:01 2014.

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Marx and Engels wrote very interesting stuff. Refusing to read them, even where they're dead wrong, denies us an understanding of many of the events of the past century plus.

Similarly, I can evaluate what Ben Stein says even if he thinks that his and Ferris's ancestors sprang from the head of Zeus.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 23 14:11:04 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 13:56:42 2014.

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Yes, because it was Engels.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 23 14:11:49 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:10:52 2014.

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That would not be the primary reason to read them.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:12:57 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 14:07:15 2014.

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In your estimation. I've known people who would have discounted the gentlemen as a superstitious ignoramus.


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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:13:46 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 23 14:11:49 2014.

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What would be?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 14:16:42 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:12:57 2014.

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Maybe, but that doesn't discount his ability to know how to get somewhere. If I asked Ben Stein how to get somewhere, I'd believe him.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 23 14:29:48 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:13:46 2014.

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Knowledge of the enemies of humanity, primarily.

What kind of lunatic declares that a society where "the present dominates the past" could be in any way peaceful and can preserve individuality?

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:31:52 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 23 14:16:42 2014.

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Ask him how to get to Heaven.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:38:20 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 23 14:29:48 2014.

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"The present dominates the past" means decisions should be made based on the facts on the ground rather than simply because of tradition; ie, "we've always done it that way" is not, in and of itself, a valid reason for doing it that way.

I'm not sure how you think this precludes peace and/or individuality, but then again, you can't even define the words "liberal" or "conservative" so I doubt you actually understand what that phrase means.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:45 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 23 14:05:16 2014.

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None of that is really on point.

Firstly, there is no such thing as competence in all fields and credentials are at best a guide to competence in one field, so no one is expecting you to take the odd advice of a PhD on a subject he's not necessarily familiar with.

Secondly, in rural Georgia, "praise Jesus" is basically just a cultural idiom for "good luck" or somesuch and not really a claim as such.

Thirdly, asking directions is a very simple thing that most anyone who knows the relevant area can be trusted to be capable of.

Fourthly, certain kinds of crazy tend to get paired up. Creationism is a right-wing bugaboo and a feigned support for Jews and/or eagerness to use Jews as pawns for their own political ends are common practices among the right wing, so in this case it's assuming someone to be incompetent in one area because they have demonstrated mind-boggling incompetence in a similar area.

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Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 23 20:50:12 2014, in response to Re: Jew Hatred Exists in the Media, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:38:20 2014.

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And in fact, if "we've always done it that way" results in unhappy results, then we definitely need to stop that shit.

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