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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 14:01:26 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 18 13:55:35 2014. How? The USSR didn't allow them to leave.Note that once the USSR allowed them to leave, most did leave. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Fri Apr 18 14:01:46 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 18 13:59:57 2014. ok that makes more sense. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Fri Apr 18 14:02:51 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 18 13:59:56 2014. the immigration act of 1924 was passed because people thought there were too many jews moving to America |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 14:04:05 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DANd124 on Fri Apr 18 13:35:53 2014. The ones that date from the 1960s??You're claiming that the Democrats wanting amnesty for Mexicans and other South Americans is pushing Jewish immigrants out? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 14:04:36 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DANd124 on Fri Apr 18 13:46:10 2014. He HAD to. As to whether or not he did it willingly, that's open to question. I think from a geopolitical standpoint, he did so but he was always very snarky about Jews and was front and center in criticizing them to seek favOUr with his southern constituency.Folks seem to forget that the "freedom rides" consisted of many Jewish students, many of whom were killed for participating in it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 14:05:32 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DANd124 on Fri Apr 18 13:48:33 2014. Antisemitism was a big thing at the time, along with racism. That's why I'm so saddened to seeing it all making such a BIG comeback after so many years of progress. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 14:06:17 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 14:05:32 2014. I should add as I have many times ... BOTH are the same monster. Accept one and you accept the other. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 14:36:29 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 17 14:02:18 2014. Uh, didn't you say we should stay out of it? I thought you gave the impression initially that it wasn't a big deal if Crimea was taken by the Russians. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 14:37:48 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Apr 17 18:40:50 2014. No, it's more like we all decided to take on Nilet in mass debates. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 15:23:54 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 14:37:48 2014. Or rather Nilet decided to troll the board. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 18 16:16:17 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DANd124 on Fri Apr 18 14:02:51 2014. No, it was passed because we had too many foreigners coming here. The 1968 Hart-Cellar Act destoyed our country. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 16:17:43 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 15:23:54 2014. That too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 16:47:03 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 18 16:16:17 2014. Yes, too many JEW foreigners. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 18 16:52:49 2014, in response to Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by dand124 on Thu Apr 17 12:39:46 2014. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/04/17/jewish-registration-ukraine-russia-column/7848821/ |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 18 16:59:50 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 18 16:52:49 2014. Unclear to me if this was a deliberate dirty trick to discredit the supposed signing organization or just a bunch of ultra-extremists whp really supported what they wrote. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 18 17:23:32 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 18 16:59:50 2014. Same here. That's why I posted the link without commenting. I don't always agree with the ADL and Abe Foxman as they sometimes have a liberal agenda but I'm glad they exist. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 18 17:24:43 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 10:49:43 2014. Maybe you should ask him. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 18 17:30:28 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 18 16:16:17 2014. No, Dand124 is right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Read about the Saint Louis. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 17:59:47 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 14:01:26 2014. Most, not all. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 18:02:24 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 16:47:03 2014. No, foreigners Period. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 18:07:47 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 14:05:32 2014. You can thank obama for that. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 18:12:58 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 14:01:26 2014. Most, not all. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 18:33:59 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 18:02:24 2014. And those foreigners were mainly Jews. Anti-Semite! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 18:35:06 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 17:59:47 2014. They must have had their reasons. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 18:44:59 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 14:36:29 2014. That's pretty much what THEY were saying until Putin pulled the surprise. What they still don't want is the US marching in, that was their biggest fear because it would allow Putin to justify it. He did anyway. :(And no, they weren't all that concerned about Crimea since that was all Russian, all the time anyway. Gift from Khrushchev in the 50's. Right now though, Putin's talking about taking back Odessa which is on the other side of the Dnieper. He's calling Ukraine "Novorossia" (New Russia) now claiming that the formation of Ukraine back in the 20's was an error. :( |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Fri Apr 18 18:59:22 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 18 16:16:17 2014. No, it was passed because we had too many foreigners coming here.like your grandparents? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 19:01:19 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DAnD124 on Fri Apr 18 18:59:22 2014. great-grandparents, apparently, but PWN3D! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 19:07:43 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DAnD124 on Fri Apr 18 18:59:22 2014. Perhaps. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 19:08:30 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DAnD124 on Fri Apr 18 18:59:22 2014. They came in the 1890s. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 19:09:12 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by DAnD124 on Fri Apr 18 18:59:22 2014. Perhaps. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 19:12:57 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 19:08:30 2014. So? The nativists hated them just the same, they just didn't develop enough political power until the 1920s. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Apr 18 20:00:24 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 17 13:07:43 2014. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 20:23:24 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 18:44:59 2014. Oh boy. We get to see a major power out of control. AGAIN. :-( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 00:33:25 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 18 20:23:24 2014. There's actually a good reason for it, but so as to not butthurt our wrong wingers, I won't post it here. For anyone who doesn't get the reason why all of this is happening and why Ukraine is currently taking it up the ass, here's WHY:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/18/us-ukraine-putin-diplomacy-special-repor-idUSBREA3H0OQ20140418 Do have a read, you had to be there back around 2001 to get it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 00:39:14 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 00:33:25 2014. Bottom line though, this, the "Arab Spring" and a raft of other things are those "chickens coming home to roost" that were started by PNAC and the morons that followed and if we don't get them to stop their madness, it's going to get even worse. That's what I meant (as did my friends over there) about staying out of this. We've already done more than enough damage with our lunatic righties on the loose ... have a read.You can't screw with other people and not expect them to eventually have their fill, turn around, and bite you on the ass. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 19 07:21:03 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 00:39:14 2014. I actually thought that after we got those former USSR countries to join NATO, we would lay off stuff within Russia's sphere of influence (see: lack of interest in Chechnya). Guess our fingers were still too close to Russia. And in the end, Obama got the ball, but he fumbled too. :-( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 12:44:16 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 19 07:21:03 2014. And even more surprisingly, it was Hillary that really pissed him off. The big problem though is that our righties rushed right in to keep kicking them when they were down instead of finding a way to work with them. You can't shove democracy down other people's throats, that's how "Arab spring" turned out the way it did.You have to work with them, show them how it works, and let them come to that decision on their own. PNAC didn't want to do that and here we are. :( |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 19 14:07:24 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 12:44:16 2014. But with the Arab Spring, isn't that what the Arabs did, come to a decision on their own? The hatred of their kleptocracies had been simmering for decades, until finally something set it off. Of course, after you depose the government and all the bureaucracy, you have to come up with something else, and the citizens probably didn't think that far.The Russian government, of course, isn't nearly as weakened or as willing to look the other way with the "non-profits". |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 18:26:19 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 19 14:07:24 2014. Absolutely ... if you're going to "bring democracy" the least you can do is teach how it works and what it means first. In many places over there, once folks could vote, they kinda voted "wrong" ... seems the only place so far where things didn't go horribly wrong was Tunisia so far. PNAC went in to numerous places, got everybody worked up and no clue as to where to go next. We liberated Iraq from Saddam and handed it to Iran. We went into Afghanistan and Pakistan and handed BOTH to the Taliban ... that's why the folks over in Ukraine are kinda ... please don't help us. :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri May 9 12:17:21 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 18 18:07:47 2014. Bet you a bent car token you are totally WRONG!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 12:55:40 2014, in response to Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri May 9 12:17:21 2014. WTF are you talking about? |
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