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Re: Not Happening

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 23 23:10:20 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 22:49:26 2014.

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Everything is bingbong's fault, that old conservative "blame someone else" when you step on a grenade.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 23 23:14:26 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 23 23:10:20 2014.

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If he thinks he isn't a tard, he would have realized the message wasn't directed at him, and just moved along. Guess what getting all bent means? LOL

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 00:14:18 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 23 23:10:20 2014.

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She's a nasty, uncivil liar. No one forces her to act that way. That's her fault and no one elses.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 00:26:36 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 00:14:18 2014.

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Spoken like a true republican ... blame her because you respond. Bravo! :)

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 00:42:13 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 00:26:36 2014.

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Yeah, I blame her because she called people "tards" because they thought differently than she did about an issue. That's not Republican or Democrat or anything else. Face it. Your lady is an uncivil, foul-mouthed, ingrate.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by rkba on Mon Feb 24 00:53:28 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 00:42:13 2014.

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The truth hurts.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 00:55:07 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 00:42:13 2014.

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But you *are* a tard ... you prove it with each and every post! You don't read, you get it wrong, and you keep coming back being wrong again. Hurr-durr is no way of life, son.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 00:55:37 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by rkba on Mon Feb 24 00:53:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yep ... try to convince him to stop hurting himself, won't ya? :)

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 01:23:05 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 00:55:07 2014.

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You hold onto that thought, then. People see you for what you are and her for what she is. I don't get it wrong. It's you that gets it wrong and when you run out of arguments you resort to the worn out "MTA" argument and lose there too. Every failure in your life has been someone elses fault, right? Well maybe you just are not as smart as you think you are. You have a long history as a fuck-up and you never seem to learn from your fuck-ups. Hey, I guess that makes you the real "tard" or Turd here.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 01:41:46 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 01:23:05 2014.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 07:42:33 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Dave on Sun Feb 23 22:28:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So then what's the source for:

"South Carolina is heading to bankruptcy because they have to take every person hired by one of these companies, put them through high school and college so they get hires, at the state's expense."

Did this come from a news story or did bingbong make it up? I can't find any news story that stated this.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 08:47:22 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 21 12:32:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong, it's exactly like I wrote it, including the part about you bring incapable of rational discussion.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 24 11:07:37 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 07:42:33 2014.

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Did you read the link? That's where the conclusion came from.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 24 11:13:02 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 08:47:22 2014.

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No it isn't. Just drop it, shouldn't you fear discussing something you know nothing about?

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 12:40:01 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 24 11:07:37 2014.

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Please cite in the link where it states SC is sending all workers for those companies to High School and college.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 13:37:20 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 07:42:33 2014.

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Ask at a different time and you'll get a different answer.

Somehow they think it's funny.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 16:38:45 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 24 11:13:02 2014.

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Yes it is. And I only speak that which I can properly support, unlike you.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Feb 24 17:08:12 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 12:40:01 2014.

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When the south fails, civilization WINS. Hope you get cancer.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 24 17:46:00 2014, in response to Not Happening, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 20 16:37:48 2014.

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The Daily Kos is just as unreliable and biased a source as FOX news. Perhaps worse.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 17:52:36 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Feb 24 17:08:12 2014.

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Did your mother have any children who lived?

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:04:38 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 17:52:36 2014.

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Warning: anyone here who insists on maintaining running arguments with bingbong, RockParkMan, OBS, or Edwards has mental impairments of their own.




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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 18:50:32 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 24 17:46:00 2014.

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Way to miss the point, Mitch...

And what exactly is wrong about the Kos article?

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Dave on Mon Feb 24 20:30:31 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:04:38 2014.

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Point taken!

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 20:45:19 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 18:04:38 2014.

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OBS?

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 25 09:03:42 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 20:45:19 2014.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 25 11:57:48 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 18:50:32 2014.

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What rock did you crawl out from under?

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 11:58:42 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 18:50:32 2014.

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It's a Kos article.

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Re: Not Happening

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 12:14:48 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 25 11:57:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Answer the question. You made a statement. Now defend it.

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 13:05:41 2014, in response to Re: Not Happening, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 21 12:32:02 2014.

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VW is not going to build a SUV plant in TN. Get over it. Not exactly likely they'd hire you anyway.
Once again, I was right and you were wrong. You said VW will not built an SUV at the TN plant. I said that there is absolutely no support for your statement. Sure enough, I was right, again, because VW has announced that they WILL build an SUV at the TN plant. When will you learn to listen to me? When has it ever occurred that when we disagreed about something, you ended up being right and I ended up being wrong? When will you learn to stop making asinine statements about things you know nothing about?

Tennessee plant to build midsize seven-seater for North America starting in 2015

Volkswagen has confirmed plans to move ahead with the midsize CrossBlue crossover. First seen at the Detroit auto show, it's set to go into production at the end of 2015 in Chattanooga, Tenn., Designed to be positioned between the Tiguan and the Touareg, the CrossBlue will nevertheless offer seating for seven, and will use a lengthened version of the modular MQB platform that now underpins the Tiguan and a range of other VW group vehicles.



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Re: Turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 13:28:14 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 13:05:41 2014.

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Wrong. They are building an SUV at their existing plant, not a new one.

They had planned to build a new plant for that vehicle according to a months old article WRT unionization at the plant, which management desired. THAT was the issue at the time, yet you nor your lnked article say anything of that or its resolution. In the abscence of fact, that remains unresolved.

What they are doing may preserve existing jobs, a new plant, the fate of which remains unknown, would expand employment. There's a big difference there. This isn't about who's making what, it's about employment and opportunity. But it figures you couldn't see beyond the one dimension. OCD.

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 14:00:56 2014, in response to Re: Turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 13:28:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong. You said, as I quoted, that they would not build an SUV at the TN plant.

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Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 14:06:49 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 14:00:56 2014.

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No, i said they would not build a new lant in TN. That they are doing this at heir existing plant must mean the union was brought in, which was their stipulationfor building the SUV there.

Which brings us to the original issue, which was the unionization of the pllnt, NOT who builds what where. You are still wrong.

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 14:54:43 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 14:06:49 2014.

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Wrong. They are expanding the existing facility, adding jobs, and the union has NOT yet been brought it. You claimed that the vote to not unionize would hurt the plant, that it wouldn't expand, and that it would not build an SUV. You were wrong on all counts.

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Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 15:26:24 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 14:54:43 2014.

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Prove it. Not in the article ou linked.

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:05:40 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 15:26:24 2014.

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Yes it was in the article I linked.

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Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:15:43 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:05:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The union issue's resolution is never mentioned. The unionization was the issue. There is NO mention of any union in the article. Don't you read what you attempt to argue with. THIS IS ABOUT THE UNION.

(Text of linked article)

Tennessee plant to build midsize seven-seater for North America starting in 2015

Volkswagen has confirmed plans to move ahead with the midsize CrossBlue crossover. First seen at the Detroit auto show, it's set to go into production at the end of 2015 in Chattanooga, Tenn., Designed to be positioned between the Tiguan and the Touareg, the CrossBlue will nevertheless offer seating for seven, and will use a lengthened version of the modular MQB platform that now underpins the Tiguan and a range of other VW group vehicles.

Volkswagen has shown several versions of the CrossBlue concept since its debut at the 2013 Detroit Auto Show, including a smaller, more rakish version dubbed the CrossBlue Coupe. The five-seater Crossblue Coupe is meant to preview a smaller sister car to the CrossBlue, and like the seven seat version it is meant to address the large price gap between the compact Tiguan and the full-size Touareg. Like the Tiguan, the CrossBlue is being developed to expand Volkswagen's range in the crossover and SUV segments and to offer Volkswagen-priced options to consumers, which is something the Touareg has not been known for offering.

The seven-seat version of the CrossBlue has been well past the concept stage for a few months, and last year Volkswagen gave journalists the opportunity to drive the CrossBlue on a closed test track. The SUV we drove was powered by a diesel-electric hybrid powertrain equipped with a lithium-ion battery, and on the outside it was actually larger and lower than the second-generation Touareg. Whatever the dimensions of the production version of the seven seater end up being, the company plans to ofer transversely-mounted four- and six-cylinder engines in the CrossBlue once it goes into production, which will help keep costs down.

"With the midsize SUV, the expansion of the Chattanooga plant and the new development center, the focus is on the wishes of the US customer. This is also a strong signal for the US as an industrial and automobile production location. The Volkswagen brand is going on the attack again in America," said Prof. Dr. Martin Winterkorn, Chairman of the Board of Management of Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft, in Wolfsburg.

The recent announcement to award the Chattanooga, Tenn., plant North American production of the SUV also made mention of a second vehicle to join the CrossBlue in 2016, which is likely to be the smaller five-seat wagon previewed as the CrossBlue Coupe.

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Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:16:48 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:15:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So where's you proof about the union resolution you lied about?

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:20:15 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:15:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL, if the union issue was resolved, surely it would have been mentioned! A simple Google search finds an article which explains the current plan:

Participation in the local would be voluntary and not formally recognized by VW until a majority of the 3,200 employees at the plant agree to join

So once again, you were wrong. You claimed that the vote to not unionize would hurt the plant, that it wouldn't expand, and that it would not build an SUV. You were wrong on all counts.



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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:20:37 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:16:48 2014.

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Talking to yourself again?

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Re: Turtle Union AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jul 21 21:30:40 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:20:15 2014.

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We need a Turtle Union

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Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:40:37 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:20:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, I was talking to YOU. You have no proof about the union resolution.

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Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:42:59 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:20:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is NOT the original linked article that YOU claimed contained the information about the union resolution,

Do notice the plant IS going to be unionized. That's a good thing.

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Re: Turtle Union AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:43:39 2014, in response to Re: Turtle Union AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jul 21 21:30:40 2014.

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I was thinking more like some soup.

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:44:02 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:40:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, you replied to yourself. And I don't have proff of the union goings-ons? That's news to me.

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bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:48:38 2014, in response to Re: turtlepest proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:42:59 2014.

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That is NOT the original linked article that YOU claimed contained the information about the union resolution
I never said it was. LOL!

Do notice the plant IS going to be unionized.
No it's not! It will only be unionized if a majority of the workers choose to join the union! THEN it will be unionized.

That's a good thing.
That's debatable. But regardless, the SUV is being built there and VW is investing hundreds of millions of dollars in a plant that isn't yet unionized.

YOU said that the vote not to unionize would HURT the plant and that, as a result, the plant would not be expanded, would not receive new investment, and an SUV would not be built there. You were wrong on all counts. Even with the vote not to unionize, the plant is still being expanded, VW is still investing hundreds of millions of dollars there, and an SUV is being built there! I told you at the time that you were wrong and you didn't listen.

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Re: bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:52:24 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:44:02 2014.

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As a footnote to the first post. I was still talking to you. Obviously you're not listening. Not that you ever do.

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Re: bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:54:24 2014, in response to bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 21:48:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's what Volkswagen management said. I don't know what prompted the change, probably the future unionization made a difference. It'll unionize. Might take a bit of time.

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Teenage mutant throwback Turtle

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jul 21 22:13:09 2014, in response to Re: Turtle Union AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:43:39 2014.

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Grow up, Brian.

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Re: bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jul 22 07:07:29 2014, in response to Re: bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:52:24 2014.

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No. You replied to yourself. If it was to be, you should have replied to me.

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Re: bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jul 22 07:11:57 2014, in response to Re: bingbong proven wrong AGAIN - this time about VW (Was: Re: Not Happening), posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 21:54:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No! That's NOT what VW management said! It's what your left wing opinion pieces said!!! You even linked to them in this thread!! I told you at that time that the confusions you were reaching based on those left wing articles was incorrect but you refused to listen to me even though I have a very good track record on these matters. When have it ever been wrong when we've disagreed?

The fact is that you were completely wrong and refused to listen to people who know much more about this stuff and/or who are more intelligent.

You said the vote not to unionize would hurt the plant and it has done no such thing.

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