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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020 
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 22 20:11:09 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. Nice |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:25:08 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 22 20:11:09 2020. I love the globe "o".Wonder if anyone has that rollsign? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 22 20:36:44 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:25:08 2020. Very cool. That was from what I understand to a good batch of buses. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:41:49 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. Classic.Location? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 22 21:47:15 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 22 20:36:44 2020. Yes they were. Those would be 2-3 years old at the time. The whole order, a bit less than 200, were all based at the 2 Queens depots, Jamaica & Flushing.This young kid from Brooklyn only rode them a handful of times unfortunately. A few did make it to Brooklyn as their service lives were winding down. |
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Posted by B53RICH on Fri May 22 22:50:56 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:41:49 2020. Possibly Saultell Ave. and Van Doren St., Corona. LIE is in the background. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 00:21:53 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 22 21:47:15 2020. Cool facts. I’ve only seen then photographed in Queens come to think of it.2151 is a favorite of mine. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 00:22:41 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by B53RICH on Fri May 22 22:50:56 2020. I don’t know those streets but I thought it was the LIE in the background. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 23 04:30:09 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:41:49 2020. Just know it's Corona. |
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Posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:46:27 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 00:22:41 2020. Saultell Ave. and Van Doren St. is where the B58 (now Q58) used to run westbound coming from Flushing, to get to the easternmost section of Corona Ave.; the eastbound routing was always via 108th St. to be able to cross under the LIE. Eventually, the route was changed to use 108th St. in both directions. But at the time of the 1964-1965 Fair, that was the case. |
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Posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:46:54 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 00:22:41 2020. Saultell Ave. and Van Doren St. is where the B58 (now Q58) used to run westbound coming from Flushing, to get to the easternmost section of Corona Ave.; the eastbound routing was always via 108th St. to be able to cross under the LIE. Eventually, the route was changed to use 108th St. in both directions. But at the time of the 1964-1965 Fair, that was the case. |
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Posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:47:07 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 00:22:41 2020. Saultell Ave. and Van Doren St. is where the B58 (now Q58) used to run westbound coming from Flushing, to get to the easternmost section of Corona Ave.; the eastbound routing was always via 108th St. to be able to cross under the LIE. Eventually, the route was changed to use 108th St. in both directions. But at the time of the 1964-1965 Fair, that was the case. |
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Posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:47:26 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 00:22:41 2020. Saultell Ave. and Van Doren St. is where the B58 (now Q58) used to run westbound coming from Flushing, to get to the easternmost section of Corona Ave.; the eastbound routing was always via 108th St. to be able to cross under the LIE. Eventually, the route was changed to use 108th St. in both directions. But at the time of the 1964-1965 Fair, that was the case. |
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Posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:48:56 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:47:26 2020. Sorry. I kept trying to post this reply and getting a message "You must enter a subject." Bug in the forum? Whatever. |
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Posted by Dan on Sat May 23 12:06:53 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. We didn't own a car. My family took the Worlds Fair bus from Flatbush & Nostrand in Brooklyn. IIRC he fare was $1. It was possibly the worst bus ride in my life. Of course I don't remember the exact route but do remember that the bus took forever to get to the World's Fair, apparently passing through some pretty bad neighborhoods along the way.The TA was too cheap and stupid to purchase air-conditioned buses for the WF specials, so we all sweltered in this bus with the windows blowing hot air and exhaust fumes on the passengers. |
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Posted by Are dee em on Sat May 23 12:08:41 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Snilcher on Sat May 23 09:48:56 2020. Good job by operator. Notice how he aware that dizzy Lizzie has her butt sticking out from the curb. Good bus operator never gets distracted. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat May 23 13:38:24 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Dan on Sat May 23 12:06:53 2020. Of course I don't remember the exact route but do remember that the bus took forever to get to the World's Fair, apparently passing through some pretty bad neighborhoods along the way. Surface Transit had a few routes that took forever to get where they were going. WE would take the old Bx-29 Willis Avenue bus from 156th Street down to the Day Line pier at 125th Street. When you got on the bus you were just entering the first grade. By the time that you got off you were leaving high school. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 23 13:46:06 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Dan on Sat May 23 12:06:53 2020. The fare was a quarter. It was the B80. The B81 left from Eastern Parkway and Utica. Took it the second year. We sat and the ride was comfortable. Didn’t use the sign in the picture. I believe the route number was on the sign. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 23 14:08:38 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Dan on Sat May 23 12:06:53 2020. Would have been faster to take the subway. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 15:00:29 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Dan on Sat May 23 12:06:53 2020. When was the first a/c TA bus? 1966? |
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Posted by northshore on Sat May 23 16:24:15 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. The 200 series buses were assigned only to Flushing & Jamaica Depots.The B58 was a Brooklyn (Fresh Pond Depot routes). The 2000's were assigned to the Q44 World's Fair service. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat May 23 18:09:31 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. I just see a little box. But I called up the message source (Ctl-U) and found the link there and clicked on it, and I saw the image. I don't think those kids brought their tricycles and toy firetruck onto the bus. |
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Posted by Dan on Sun May 24 11:38:27 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 23 13:46:06 2020. Thank you, it was a 'premium' fare but I didn't remember the exact amount from 1965. |
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Posted by Dan on Sun May 24 11:39:49 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 15:00:29 2020. Don't know but they had a few a/c buses on the B4 and B8 by 1968 because those were the buses I took to my orthodontist in Bay Ridge. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 24 18:46:03 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 23 13:46:06 2020. Sounds like the B81 may have been the line my mother and I took to the Fair in 1964. My parents and I were still living with my grandparents in East New York (near the Newlots Av IRT station). We boarded at the B10 stop on Newlots and Ashford. Bus was a brand new Flxible (though I wouldn't know about the name Flxible until many years later, but even at 5 years old, I could tell that it was a different bus from the Old Looks and Fishbowls that I was used to seeing). The sign was set to a blank position, no World's Fair sign. Maybe that route paralled the route of the 2 subway. Don't remember our route from Ashford, I suspect it used the B10 route, but past Berriman to Dumont, to Fountain to Linden Blvd, passed what would be Times Square Stores and on to Conduit (basically todays B15), Probably Conduit/Belt Pkwy to Van Wyck and on to the fair. I think we took the 7 to the 2 back home. Don't recall if it was a WF special or a regular 7. Don't remember too much about the Fair, except the Monorail, which I though was the coolest thing ever. It was sponsored by sporting good company AMF, whose logo was prominently feature on the front of the cars. Being 5 years old, I assumed AMF had actually built the monorail, I was shocked years later when I saw a commercial for some sporting goods built by AMF. |
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Posted by Dan on Mon May 25 08:58:40 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 24 18:46:03 2020. The only thing I liked about the WF was the monorail too! As a 7-year old I figured one day a monorail would replace the McDonald Avenue el. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 25 15:39:17 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Dan on Mon May 25 08:58:40 2020. I was a deprived child.As often as I saw the monorail from the LIE I didn't ride it because we never made it that far from the #7 line station. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon May 25 16:46:08 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 25 15:39:17 2020. If I recall, the Queens Transit WF Special dropped us by the Lawrence Stentrance (College Pt Blvd nr LIE) so we started on that end..... |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue May 26 21:29:13 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 23 15:00:29 2020. Yes, the 8001-8202/8301-8780 was the first order. 20 of the 5301s that OA inherited from FACCo were equipped with a/c. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 27 00:15:51 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by WayneJay on Tue May 26 21:29:13 2020. 👍🏼I’m not too familiar with the inherited buses from Fifth Ave Coach. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed May 27 00:25:25 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 27 00:15:51 2020. Oh OK. FACCo had 120 GMC TDH-5301 buses (3101-3220) with the last 20 buses having a/c. They were painted into the green color scheme when they came to MaBSTOA but retained the same fleet numbers. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Wed May 27 00:39:47 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 23 13:46:06 2020. Did the B81 pass the Broadway Junction because I (vaguely) remember my parents taking me to the World's Fair by bus and remember us walking toward the Broadway Junction and then getting on a direct bus to the World's Fair near the Broadway Junction. i was only six or seven at the time. I also remember in the afternoon leaving the World's Fair looking at the buses at the World's Fair Terminal and hoping we took the right bus home. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 27 02:07:04 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by WayneJay on Wed May 27 00:25:25 2020. Thank you 👍🏼 |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:51:12 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Dan on Sun May 24 11:38:27 2020. The regular fare was 15 cents which rose to 20 cents in 1966, the year after the fare. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:52:49 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Nyctransitman on Wed May 27 00:39:47 2020. Yes, it followed the B14 route then the B12 route to Broadway Junction, then I think along Liberty and probably Atlantic to the Van Wyck. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:53:49 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 23 14:08:38 2020. Took about he same time from where I started . Went both ways. Thought the bus would be faster but it really wasn't. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:55:56 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by WayneJay on Tue May 26 21:29:13 2020. The A/C didn't work properly after several years because maintenance was miserable. By 1978, 95 percent of A/C buses were not in working order. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:57:43 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by pragmatist on Mon May 25 16:46:08 2020. All the Word's Fair buses terminated there including NYCTA. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:59:39 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 24 18:46:03 2020. It started as a B14 at Utica, then followed the B12 and eventuallly entered the Van Wyck at Atlantic Avenue and terminated near the Hall of Science on 111 St. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 07:00:43 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by northshore on Sat May 23 16:24:15 2020. That's why I never saw those buses in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 27 07:40:40 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:59:39 2020. OK, then the route I was on must have been a different route, sounds like the B81 was never on Newlots. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 27 08:09:56 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. They all look-a-like. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed May 27 09:34:23 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:57:43 2020. Thanks, I was so happy to be going to the Fair, I never looked at any of the details.... |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed May 27 11:11:19 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 27 02:07:04 2020. No problem. Always willing to contribute. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed May 27 13:20:48 2020, in response to World's Fair, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 22 20:02:55 2020. There are pictures of me at the Worlds Fair but I was two youngster so I don't recall it. Looking at the pictures, I must have enjoyed it. I have no idea how we got there but based on where we lived at the time (my parents did own a car) we either drove over the Triborough to the Grand Central or took the Lex to Times Square and hopped on the 7. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed May 27 13:21:07 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by pragmatist on Wed May 27 09:34:23 2020. There are pictures of me at the Worlds Fair but I was a youngster of two so I don't recall it. Looking at the pictures, I must have enjoyed it. I have no idea how we got there but based on where we lived at the time (my parents did own a car) we either drove over the Triborough to the Grand Central or took the Lex to Times Square and hopped on the 7. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed May 27 16:54:53 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 27 06:55:56 2020. Of course. In those days a/c on NYCTA/MABSTOA largely worked barely more than 2-3 years after they were delivered. I do remember that FI seemed to be the exception as many of their '69/'70 4000-series Flxibles had functioning a/c right into the late 70's.Giving some credit... I do recall that KB was able to keep the a/c working on some of their 8000s (8301-8371) well into the 70s. |
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Posted by B53RICH on Wed May 27 17:05:49 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by WayneJay on Wed May 27 00:25:25 2020. Wasn't 3211-3220 originally numbered as 1-20? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed May 27 17:47:32 2020, in response to Re: World's Fair, posted by WayneJay on Wed May 27 16:54:53 2020. So true. Coming home from Main/Roosevelt, I could take Queens Transit 25/34 or TA Q17. If the 25/34 had AC it probably worked. Glancing at the 17 the open windows were the dead giveaway. |
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