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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 07:43:03 2016, in response to Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 07:30:08 2016. Only two were done by the 1986 map. the M34 and M42.The M8 M23 M50 M57* M66 M72* M79 M86 M96 M106 and M116 were not done. That is a lot less than half! (*these routes are a bit more complicated, but they did have predecessors on those streets. (Also, Pigs claims the M34 and M42 were done in 1986. While I have nothing to prove that either way, Pigs is a substantially more reliable source.) |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 07:51:45 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by R30A on Thu Oct 13 12:10:29 2016. They weren't. I was talking about 106 Street and 116 St. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 08:45:40 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 07:51:45 2016. Exactly my point. None of those were done prior to 1986. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 08:52:01 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 07:43:03 2016. Awesome. BrooklynBus wrong again. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 08:53:38 2016, in response to Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 07:30:08 2016. Cool. BrooklynBus hardly ever gets anything correct. When you post things as fact that are wrong and which could have been easily verified beforehand, you are a liar. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 08:54:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 08:45:40 2016. Pwn3d soooooooooooo good |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 09:37:23 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 08:45:40 2016. You didn't answer my question. Does the 1986 map show the M106 on 42 Street or does it show the M42? |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:34:03 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 07:43:03 2016. I have proff. It wasn't hard to find:http://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/28/nyregion/city-altering-traffic-flow-toward-javits-center.html Under these changes, the crosstown M 106 which runs along 42d Street will be renamed M42 and will loop around the Convention Center at the western end of its route. Article from February 28, 1986. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 10:36:44 2016, in response to Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 07:30:08 2016. I already replied that perhaps my memory is a little faulty and perhaps the crosstown routes were renumbered in stages. If only half the crosstown routes were renumbered before 1986, THAT DOES NOT PROVE MY STATEMENT WRONG THAT THE RENUMBERING BEGAN IN 1984 with the M42 and M34 and perhaps others were renumbered shortly after my interview. (The M14 was already called that before 1984.)Therefore even if my statement wasn't entirely correct that ALL the crosstown routes were renumbered in 1984, THE LARGER POINT THAT THE IDEA WAS MINE, and that they used it after stating to me it was not a good idea IS STILL TRUE. Unless someone can show me that the M42 and the Hudson River branch of the M34 WAS NOT RENUMBERED IN 1984, my basic point is STILL TRUE. Why are you so intent on discrediting me? |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 10:39:04 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 07:43:03 2016. Where did Pig state the M34 and M42 were done in 1986? I didn't see that. (I know the Penn Station branch was not renumbered in 1984.) |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:45:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 09:37:23 2016. The implication was that it did show the M42 as he mentioned every single other crosstown route with the exception of the M34.While that could prove that those routes and those routes alone were renumbered in 1984, your original claim was that they were mostly done in 1984, which was thoroughly disproffed. And I have provided conclusive proff that the M34 and M42 were renumbered in March or April of 1986. Thus no routes were renumbered at any time in 1984. |
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Re: Proff that Terrapin Station is not capable of logical thinking and can only resort to insults. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Oct 14 10:47:51 2016, in response to Re: Proff that Terrapin Station is not capable of logical thinking and can only resort to insults., posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 13 18:34:52 2016. Wrong, and you're lying. You were banned from NYC Transit Forums.You know you were. Don't deny it. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:51:17 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 10:36:44 2016. Unless someone can show me that the M42 and the Hudson River branch of the M34 WAS NOT RENUMBERED IN 1984, my basic point is STILL TRUE.So your basic point is not true. As for your braggadocious claim that you came up with the idea, by your logic, SubChat/SubTalk came up with the idea of combining the M and V; we should all get credit for it. There is no evidence that the idea, which is so simple, came only from you. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:53:32 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 10:39:04 2016. LOL! You are an obvious and pathetic liar. Or you are simply careless. You not only saw it, you responded to it. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:01:50 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Fri Oct 14 07:43:03 2016. Okay, I just saw Spider Pig's New York Times article.Remember, we are talking over 30 years ago, and I am doing this by memory alone. So here are the possibilities: I had a second interview in 1986 that I do not recall where I mentioned the idea the the head of OP or I was incorrect and the renumbering began two years after I suggested it and not three weeks later as I previously stated. However, none of that changes the basic points: a letter of mine was published by the New York Times (I believe the date was it was on July 22 or 30, 1974.) where I first mentioned the idea, and the MTA implemented it after I verbally told it to them and they told me they would not do it because it was not a good idea. And this entire discussion started because Terrapin stated the NY Times prints letters by idiots and I responded if that is the case, then the MTA was also be idiots for accepting the idea and no one believes it was a bad idea. So all your effortsto discredit my basic point has not worked, although some of the details may have been incorrect. A liar is someone who willfully mistates facts, not someone who unintentionally makes a mistake and admits it when he is proven wrong. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:02:12 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:34:03 2016. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/post.asp |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:03:02 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:51:17 2016. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/post.asp |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:04:32 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:53:32 2016. The post I responded to did not mention the M42 and M34. It mentioned other crosstown routes.Anyway, see my response below: http://www.subchat.com/buschat/post.asp |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:05:30 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:03:02 2016. Sorry, it didn't copy correctly:http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=319525 |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:05:59 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:04:32 2016. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=319525 |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:06:44 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:45:41 2016. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=319525 |
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Re: Proff that Terrapin Station is not capable of logical thinking and can only resort to insults. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:07:31 2016, in response to Re: Proff that Terrapin Station is not capable of logical thinking and can only resort to insults., posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Oct 14 10:47:51 2016. Correct. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 11:16:16 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:01:50 2016. This is the problem with you, just like the Atlantic Avenue elevator. You are so stubborn and deeply entrenched in your version of the facts that when someone comes around politely telling you you're wrong, you just refuse to believe them. And then you wonder why they stop being polite. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 11:17:57 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:04:32 2016. look at who the first responder was |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:26:36 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:02:12 2016. lol |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:28:05 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 10:36:44 2016. THE LARGER POINT THAT THE IDEA WAS MINE, and that they used it after stating to me it was not a good idea IS STILL TRUE.No it's not still true. And it never was true except in your own mind. Why are you so intent on discrediting me?LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:28:49 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:05:30 2016. You mean you copied incorrectly. Anyhow, you did not address his point. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:29:48 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 11:17:57 2016. pwn3d!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:29:58 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 11:04:32 2016. Why are you almost always wrong???? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:31:55 2016, in response to Re: Proff that Terrapin Station is not capable of logical thinking and can only resort to insults., posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Oct 14 10:47:51 2016. Wrong, and you're lying. You were banned from NYC Transit Forums. You know you were. Don't deny it.Wrong, and you're lying. Where have I ever said I wasn't?????? |
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Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:32:25 2016, in response to Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 13 13:44:40 2016. bump |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:32:36 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 13 08:51:51 2016. bump |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:34:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 10:36:44 2016. Therefore even if my statement wasn't entirely correct that ALL the crosstown routes were renumbered in 1984, THE LARGER POINT THAT THE IDEA WAS MINE, and that they used it after stating to me it was not a good idea IS STILL TRUE. That we agree on (and nobody likes a person taking credit for someone else's suggestion). Actually, I would have to go back a bit, but around 3 or 4 years ago, I did tweet to NYCTSubway about suggesting kiosks which allow customers to get travel information and service status - - yep, the On The Go Kiosks we use today. Why are you so intent on discrediting me? If you ceased posting wrong information before doing your research first (like I do), then you would be more credible on these boards than you are now. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:35:25 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 13 10:25:38 2016. As I pointed out, David is incorrect because the website he quoted from is in error. It ocurred in 1984, not 1989.EAT CROW. Why are you almost always wrong? And why can't you understand that that's why people tell you that you are wrong and discredit you? They did it BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG!!!!! AFAIK, PRACTICALLY every time one of the respected members of this forum has had a disagreement with you, they were right and YOU WERE WRONG! Why can't you understand that???? |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:36:45 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:34:41 2016. If you ceased posting wrong information before doing your research first (like I do), then you would be more credible on these boards than you are now.Exactly. He has ZERO credibility here on most topics among intelligent people. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:38:21 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:36:45 2016. I can be incorrect too - - I was wrong about R30A saying about half of the crosstown routes were renumbered when only two occurred. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:42:04 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:38:21 2016. We all can and are incorrect sometimes. But that's not the case with BrooklynBus. He's ALMOST ALWAYS incorrect. Which is CRAZY for someone who considers himself to be an expert in the field and a wealth of knowledge and resource, so much so that he always mentions his supposed former NYCT title whenever he can and whenever he gets published. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:42:57 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 13 10:25:38 2016. As I pointed out, David is incorrect because the website he quoted from is in error. It ocurred in 1984, not 1989.Then you are saying that R30 and Spider-Pig are lying too, right? Or would you be wrong if I told you that such renumbering involves approval by the MTA Board at the next monthly meeting, a B/O pick process, and an outreach effort by customers? I think that would take more than 3 weeks. Besides the restructuring of the 57th Street, 72nd Street and CPS/59/60 Street crosstown routes (the old M103) was not your idea either? |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by bigbusdriver on Fri Oct 14 13:38:18 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 13 23:54:53 2016. Yes. The M-106 was not changed until 1986. M-17 in 1989.No idea about the 1986 map. I don't have one handy. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by bigbusdriver on Fri Oct 14 13:54:17 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 13 23:54:53 2016. Oh, I just caught the hair splitting of "route changes" against "route renumberings".When you're in the trenches, churning out revenue trips while dealing with traffic, obnoxious riders/bosses, horrible equipment, meaningless violations for the most inane transgressions, and the bean counters say "You don't drive the M-106 anymore, it's now the M-42.", you call it what it was. A Route CHANGE. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by bigbusdriver on Fri Oct 14 14:00:39 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 13 22:02:33 2016. *Earlier I posted 1988, but that was a typo and as it was a question, it didn't make sense to correct it as I am not sure when it was. I just know that by 1990 the remaining unrenumbered routes were the M13, M19 and M20.Pretty sure M-13 went to M-8, M-19 became the M-96 and the M-20 disappeared until the split of the M-10 all happened with the M-17 to M-79 and M-18 to M-86 changes in 1989. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Oct 14 14:01:08 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by bigbusdriver on Fri Oct 14 13:54:17 2016. IAWTP. +1000 |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 14:21:06 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by bigbusdriver on Fri Oct 14 14:00:39 2016. Not correct. My 1990 map still has the M13, M19 and former M20. The other changes were all already there. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Oct 14 14:29:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:31:55 2016. Nope, and there's plenty of proof/proff out there, I'm sure even you can search around for that.Not going to play one of your tired, circular logic games, so make like a tree, and... You know the rest. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 14:59:18 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 11:16:16 2016. How did I refuse to believe you?Your agenda is to discredit me. But my basic points are still correct as I have just shown to you. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin Station lies and posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:03:52 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:28:05 2016. Yes it is still true because I first made it public in 1974 and again to the MTA in 1984 or maybe 1986.the POINT IS THAT THEY USED MY IDEA AND YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS THEY NEVER LISTENED TO YOU ABOUT ANYTHING. Not to mention all the bus routes they changed because of me. So my saying "It isn't true", MAKES YOU THE LIAR! |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:08:11 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 10:51:17 2016. Okay smart guy. If the idea is so simple and logical., why was it not done in 1974 when a bunch of routes were renumbered in Manhattan, necessitating my letter to the Times that they saw fit to print?As for the M and V, did anyone from SubChat/Talk submit it to the MTA? They often use ideas suggested to them then wait several years so they can claim it was their idea. They have very few original ideas of their own. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:09:21 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:28:49 2016. I did here:http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=319523 |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:09:54 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:29:58 2016. Lie. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:12:17 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:29:58 2016. Why do so many want you off this board?For one: http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=319416 |
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