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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:23:56 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 19:10:37 2007. I stand by what I posted. It is 100% appropriate. Your infantile posting is what dishonors Cody's memory. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 19:32:54 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:22:40 2007. Stop acting like an elitist Ron. You are no better than the rest of us. I'm not a perfect person, but neither are you. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 19:34:37 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:23:56 2007. First off, I'd have to make an infantile post in order to dishonor Cody's memory in that way. However, I have done no such thing. That said, several posters have stated they believe it is not appropriate for you to have said what you said. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:43:18 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 19:32:54 2007. I never said I was perfect. What I want from you has nothing to do with your being perfect. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:45:02 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 19:34:37 2007. "First off, I'd have to make an infantile post in order to dishonor Cody's memory in that way."You've made several, and there have not been "several" posters here to support your posting (nor should there be). |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:07:39 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:45:02 2007. I think what you mean to say is that you disagree with us for some reason. That said, since many different people seem to disagree with you in many threads, it seems likely that you may be in the wrong a majority of the time. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:08:38 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 19:43:18 2007. You act as if you were. Of course, I won't judge you as a person based on your message board posts, but as far as our online acquaintence goes, you certainly give that perception whether you intend to or not. |
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Posted by JohnL on Mon Feb 5 20:10:01 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 16:42:44 2007. True. As I pointed out, it’s backed by the Women’s Transportation Seminar (WTS) Philadelphia chapter.I just wanted to point out that the recognition goes further than the WMATA… |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:11:00 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:07:39 2007. "I think what you mean to say is that you disagree with us for some reason"There is no "us" in your posts. There is "you." You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but it is yours alone. |
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Posted by JohnL on Mon Feb 5 20:11:26 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:07:39 2007. Can’t be. Ron is like Mary Poppins: practically perfect in every way!Unfortunately these comparisons have their limitations. When the wind changed, Mary got on her brolly and flew away. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:11:52 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:08:38 2007. Well, I'm not perfect, despite what my mother may claim...:0) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:12:31 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by JohnL on Mon Feb 5 20:10:01 2007. Indeed! It goes all the way to the US Department of Trsansportation!And well deserved, too. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:13:31 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by JohnL on Mon Feb 5 20:11:26 2007. Only because she didn't think to stop over at your office and pick up a wet suit. Then she could use the ocean as her means of transport... |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:14:41 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:11:00 2007. Except Ron, there is an "US" in this case, and like usual, it consists of practically everyone in the thread but yourself. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:16:31 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:14:41 2007. You and Oren, which counts for butkus. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:21:33 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:16:31 2007. As well as both Johns.Combined we are 87% of the not you in this thread. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:21:51 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:16:31 2007. How quickly we forget... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:27:06 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:21:33 2007. Wrong. Neither John said exactly what you said.And even if we combine everybody, we'd get 2 + .5 (that's you and Oren together). |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:27:40 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 20:21:51 2007. I think he's changed his mind by now... |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:30:41 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:27:40 2007. So you believe what you think someone thinks over what they say they think.Even more bloated then I thought!(your ego that is...) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:35:37 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:30:41 2007. Go to bed Lincoln. Or go count R32 serial numbers... |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:41:29 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:35:37 2007. So, realizing he has no argument at all, Ron yet again returns to random attacks. Tacking a political message onto the death of a guy is at the very least, socially inept. Attacking people when they find it offensive, is simply reprehensible. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:44:42 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by R30A on Mon Feb 5 20:41:29 2007. There was no political message there.WMATA's inept management has justifiably earned its share of criticism over the years (including from its Board), though we have seen improvements too. That isn't political. But that's not what I meant either. Even if it was by implication, there's nothing wrong with it. That's why you're still a child. You post like one and you think like one. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 21:04:19 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:44:42 2007. I'm sorry Ron, but if what you mean't isn't what was understood by the rest of us, why don't you clarify your point. I'm curious to see how you can connect the current operations (regardless of whether you like them or not) to remembering Mr. Phanstiehl, whose job had nothing to do with operations management. |
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Posted by 9 local on Mon Feb 5 21:15:40 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 20:44:42 2007. then why do you act like more of a child than lincoln does? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 21:47:52 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by 9 local on Mon Feb 5 21:15:40 2007. I don't. But maybe you do. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 21:54:22 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 21:04:19 2007. Mr. Phanstiel presented a picture of WMATA to the public that could be supported by an outstanding customer experience, or undermined by a lousy one.Put it another way. I'm going to exaggerate a little to make the point clear. Suppose he had been working his ass off, doing what he did, at New York City Tansit in the 1970s (no one here will disagree the subway system was in the crapper for a while there) The customer gets on a train and his ride is the opposite of the image Cody's trying to project. The best way to honor this guy, besides the scholarships and other things (which are not bad things at all) is to work hard to make the customer's experience as wonderful as you can possibly achieve. No only does that honor him, it honors current employees and it honors the taxpayers who paid for the system. |
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Posted by 9 local on Mon Feb 5 22:04:40 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 21:47:52 2007. ron, you cause more threads to go to the reef than lincoln and i have COMBINED, and this is going to be another one. posting something that you know will get you flamed is childish (which is why there is a reminder that says "Before posting.. think twice!" i just mean to point out the fact that you have caused many more childish posts than lincoln or i. i am very careful when i post, which is why i post rather infrequently on this board. there are many times when i really want to say something, but i don't because i know it won't end well. you should probably take the same approach.-You are the weakest link. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 23:16:23 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 21:54:22 2007. This is a bit of a stretch if you ask me. WMATA has an obligation to do run its operation well every day, regardless of what the PR office has to say, and does so. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 23:27:40 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 23:16:23 2007. "This is a bit of a stretch if you ask me."Not at all. You haven't considered the possibilities. "WMATA has an obligation to do run its operation well every day, regardless of what the PR office has to say," Agreed. "and does so" Very poorly until its recent improvements, and it still hiccups now and then. A formal quality improvement program in the Deming/Ishikawa model might help. You could name the prize for most improved WMATA organizational unit after him. Even make an annual trophy out of it. Or do something else to emphasize the rewards that come from doing excellent work, rather than taking for granted that people "have to do it." |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 00:05:40 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 5 23:27:40 2007. I believe I am more familiar with the daily operations of the WMATA system than you are. You may choose to believe the media hype, but I don't believe every last word I read in the Washington Post or hear on WTOP Radio. The issues WMATA currently faces are complex and not on any one level of personell. That said, overall, the service runs well and takes people where they want to go in a safe and reliable manner. I don't know if you've ever worked in public transit, but in the customer service realm, no news is good news. People only talk about the service when there are problems, and that is when the media picks up on it. You seem to listen in then, but I can assure you that most of the time, things go just fine. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 00:16:25 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 00:05:40 2007. You missed my point entirely. You ride the system more often than I do, but you don't know how it works inside. You don't know what and how the managers do what they do, you don't know why the Board was upset and why they took the actions they did. Other than railfanning, you take no interest in these subjects.This why you post so much nonsense. I can explain to you all sorts of things you simply won't understand, because you have neither the background nor the interest to understand. Possibly this is a disability for you. So be it. You can personally any way you want. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 00:16:53 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 00:05:40 2007. You missed my point entirely. You ride the system more often than I do, but you don't know how it works inside. You don't know what and how the managers do what they do, you don't know why the Board was upset and why they took the actions they did. Other than railfanning, you take no interest in these subjects.This why you post so much nonsense. I can explain to you all sorts of things you simply won't understand, because you have neither the background nor the interest to understand. Possibly this is a disability for you. So be it. You can personally honor Cody any way you want. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 00:38:11 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 00:16:53 2007. I know more than you think. Perhaps if you were more open minded about other posters on this board who you tend to disagree with, you would see that.I also think you shouldn't go around suggesting that people are disabled or incapable of understanding or anything along those lines. I'm well aware that you have medical credentials, but unless I am your patient and I am paying you for your services, you have no right to label me or diagnose me (or anyone else on this board) with anything. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 00:43:15 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 00:38:11 2007. "Perhaps if you were more open minded about other posters on this board"Your rigidity makes it difficult for anyone to anticipate that you'll supply anything except a stereotyped response. I'm open-minded to you, but you fight it. Your rigidity comes from a narrowness of interest, an obsession over a limited field of facts and lack of general knowledge. That's what makes you closed-minded. Why are you unable to consider the subject more broadly? Perhaps because you can't. I'll accept that. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 6 06:32:27 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 16:12:16 2007. I saw him in video about the Metro. You could see what a kind, gentile man he was. You cold see why they called him "Mr. Metro". |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 09:32:28 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 00:43:15 2007. Why are you unable to consider the subject more broadly? Perhaps because you can't. I'll accept that.Another offensive comment. Enough is enough... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 09:51:16 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 6 06:32:27 2007. You mean "gentle," but I agree with your post. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 09:54:09 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Feb 4 13:25:56 2007. I have no doubt he has inspired others at WMATA to carry on his work in the style he represented.I'm glad you had the opportunity to be his friend. We will always enjoy some "spirit of Cody" here on Subchat courtesy of you. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Feb 6 09:57:27 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Feb 5 13:50:17 2007. BTW, the other tribute to Carmen Turner is that the Smithsonian Station is dedicated to her memory. Here is a photo of the dedication from www.schuminweb.com:Hmm . . Seems I was wrong. There appears to be three memorials honoring Carmen Turner contributions to WMATA. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 09:58:17 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 09:32:28 2007. Change your attitude. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Feb 6 10:09:19 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 09:54:09 2007. Frankly Ron I happen believe you are single handedly responsible for turning what should have been tribute to Cody Pfanstiehl into political commentary.Kind of reminds me of the Wellstone memorial service. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 10:24:49 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Feb 6 10:09:19 2007. I think it's ufortunate that you have chosen to post without thinking. However, I stand by my comments and hope that with time, wisdom will visit you and you'll understand your mistake.Cody would be ashamed of your comments. Too bad he's not around anymore for you to apologize. Oren can't help himself. You have no such excuse. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Feb 6 11:25:48 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 10:24:49 2007. I have though long and hard about your comment over the last couple of days. I sill believe them to be despicable.As to apologizing to my friend, I have the feeling that he would find your comments uncalled as well if they were made as a tribute to the passing of another person that made significant contribution to WMATA existence. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 11:35:03 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Feb 6 11:25:48 2007. "I have though long and hard about your comment over the last couple of days. "No, you haven't. In fact, your comments neither befit Cody nor his work. They do, however, suggest you lack maturity and judgment. Much younger posters who do this display behavior sugestive of a disability. You lack this excuse. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 18:24:34 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Feb 6 09:57:27 2007. Three? I only was thinking of Smithsonian when I posed the original question. CET came up, and then I recalled it. I'm blanking on the third... |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 18:27:52 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 09:58:17 2007. Am I not to be offended by your labeling me as a disabled person? You aren't my doctor. If I want your medical advice, I'll ask for it. Until then, just stick to the topic of the message board. Thank you, in advance. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 18:34:52 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 10:24:49 2007. John is very right when he says you have taken a perfectly civil thread about a former WMATA employee who has passed away and have used it as a venue to remind us of your opinions of WMATA and other posters on this board. You have made several offensive comments to me in this thread, as well as what I can see other people viewing as offensive comments towards them. Just stop with this BS already and stop posting to this thread. Considering all the remarks you make about how other people need to change your behavior, I personally think many more people on this board think your behavior is in need of change. Usually, when it is one against many on an issue like this, the one should consider stepping back and reconsidering his or her actions. When you stick to the actual issues being discussed in a thread, don't post like an expert when posting about topics you know nothing about, and aren't trying to run a free psycology service over the message board, your posts are quite enjoyable. Otherwise, you just make yourself look like a fool in my humble opinion. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 19:40:58 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Feb 6 18:27:52 2007. I haven't labeled you as anything. I am merely pointing to your posting behavior, your attitude, which are both atrocious and immature, your obsessions, and your fantasies about what you know about transit.You don't need an MD to figure out what the possibilities include. You could just be an idiot, but I prefer not to think of you that way. You could be an ignorant asshole, but you don't deserve that label either. So something else is going on. But you're in charge of what you post and ultimately, what labelyou earn or get stuck with. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Feb 6 19:46:20 2007, in response to Re: Former WMATA Spokesman Cody Phanstiehl Dies, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 6 19:40:58 2007. Nobody other then yourself has complained about oren's behavior.A large amount of people on this board have complained about yourself. Look at a mirror- You are the greatest violator of the offences you fault others for! |
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