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Re: Maps and Problems with Rockaway ROW

Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Jul 22 23:57:01 2006, in response to Re: My Route Suggestion of the Old Abandoned LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch, posted by WillD on Sat Jul 22 21:16:54 2006.

First, thank you for posting a link to this resource. I was not aware of it and have now bookmarked it.

It's beautifully done and nicely laid out. My only gripe with it is the speed of update. I could eat a sandwich waiting for each refresh, and if I had dial-up Internet access only, I could eat a 3-course meal waiting for it to update. Is that typical for it?

But now let's get to the problems. Yes I looked at the map. Your descriptions are correct, but again, you lack context, so you draw an inappropriate conclusion.

"You'll see that none of the private properties adjoining the Rockaway Line right of way actually cross onto the ROW."

The map does confirm that. However, landowners still don't want trains coming even close to their property lines. I'm not happy with their attitudes, I don't agree with them, but there you have it.

"Those lots are separate from the buildings adjacent to them and the legality of the use is likely highly debatable."

Without knowing anything about how they were created you cannot reach that conclusion. I'm not saying you are wrong, but you are speculating. Throw some dice and get a low number...

"I believe somebody on Subtalk said the bus company's occupation of that lot is not totally legal."

Which means what?

"I see nowhere where private homes come right up to the right of way,"

But their yards do, right? If I am a NIMBY and you want to run your train right by where I say my kids will be playing, what do you think I will be telling my city council member?

"Three quite minor right of way incursions seem to be a very minor issue over the entire length of the line."

That's because you look at trains and tracks and not people. Let your perspective broaden and you'll understand.










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