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Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'' |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:31:09 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 21 18:40:43 2015. Hmmm, interesting. What is their policy on it? I thought all the railroads except PATH got their sh*t together in terms of photography? |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:34:30 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Aug 21 21:00:49 2015. Pretty much. Usual political BS stopping anything from getting done. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:42:33 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 21 16:55:14 2015. They have no room for error because their system is completely and totally maxed out. MN has a much more robust infrastructure, although that's largely an accident of history more than good planning. LIRR needs more capacity, more double- and triple-tracking, and more electrification, which would add capacity to the system, and make the whole thing function properly. However, even with what they have now, they aren't making the best of it, and seem to be completely inflexible when anything goes off-script. Oh, and the East End service. It's a total joke.And given all that, they have just rolled over to the ridiculous NIMBYs and have abandoned the third track, which is the single biggest thing they can do to de-clog the whole system. After spending $10.8 BILLION on ESA, they are planning to just not bother with the third track, and end up under-utilizing ESA because of the lack of the comparatively simple third track. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Aug 21 21:52:36 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 21 18:42:50 2015. IAWTP! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Aug 21 21:59:12 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by VictorM on Thu Aug 20 11:36:00 2015. I remember the westbound Cannonball use to go to Hunterspoint Avenue on Sundays...many years ago. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 21 23:21:24 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:42:33 2015. Agreed they need that 3rd desperately. If NIMBY's fight they might have to employ the dreaded emminent domain to speed the process. Needs of the many overides needs of the few. |
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Posted by error46146 on Fri Aug 21 23:47:32 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 19 18:50:50 2015. If LIRR would charge more, people would use alternative methods more. I'm pretty sure those who can pony up $75 for train ticket would much rather just drive their own personal car out to the Hamptons instead of share a train car with 50 other people. In addition there are a handful of bus lines that provide express service from Manhattan to the Hamptons which already charge cheaper rates than the railroad. Raising the LIRR price would simply put the Montauk line out of business. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Aug 22 00:02:03 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 21 23:21:24 2015. Unfortunately CT poisoned eminent domain by abusing it in New London. But it's a very useful tool. Most of the time, the threat of it makes people sell, since they get more if they sell on their own before the eminent domain goes through. But if you get some moron who's going to fight, that's the way to do it.It's easier in the 3rd track situation, since you're not actually kicking anyone out, you're just lopping a few feet off their backyard. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Aug 22 01:58:22 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:42:33 2015. I don't think they're going to underutilize ESA. More like they're going to underutilize the Atlantic Avenue branch. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:00:33 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:42:33 2015. All because some truly selfish individuals can't see the bigger picture. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:03:32 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Aug 22 00:02:03 2015. The problem is for some of these people, even a few feet off the backyard can make it hard on appearances in the eyes of ultra-snobby relatives, especially if such relatives are wealthy and such homeowners are worried they will for example lose an inheritance over it. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Aug 22 05:14:08 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:03:32 2015. The problem is for some of these peopleI think the real problem is that the LIRR is relatively noisy, and the third track basically brings temporary construction noise and the potential for more trains. In effect, they get the "burden" with none of the direct benefits. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Aug 22 05:20:30 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:03:32 2015. Another sweeping generalization courtesy of Wallyhorse. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 22 06:50:06 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Fri Aug 21 21:31:09 2015. Actually, I am a few years out of cycle.Find out better from http://chitransit.org/forum/6-general-transit-discussion/ |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Aug 22 09:20:44 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:03:32 2015. 1. They already live right next to one of the busiest commuter railroads in the western hemisphere. If you look at per-track traffic, it might be the busiest.2. They would get compensated, i.e. almost free money. They don't even have to move. They might have to take down a garden shed or similar things, but they don't have to otherwise move where they live or whatnot. 3. If they are that concerned about noise, they should put up a stink about more electrification to get rid of diesels running through there. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Aug 22 09:21:08 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:00:33 2015. And also a railroad with no balls to fight them. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sat Aug 22 09:22:54 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by 3-9 on Sat Aug 22 01:58:22 2015. It's both. They can't fully utilize both ESA and even their [presumably] scaled-back slot assignments at Penn without the third track. If they try and slot-hog at Penn since they share it with 2-going-on-3 other railroads, ESA gets hit even worse. And Atlantic Ave has so much going for it that they aren't utilizing either! |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Aug 22 17:38:09 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 22 04:03:32 2015. Huh? They will "lose an inheritance" because they allowed the LIRR to buy a narrow strip of land on the edge of their back yard?I doubt there will be a single case like that. If there is, those "rich relatives" would be very strange indeed. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 22 20:26:48 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 20 17:28:41 2015. Why can't the LIRR lease a few trainsets for seasonal Montauk service? Say a trainset or two from NJT that run on M-N from New Haven to Giant games that are not needed in the summer piloted by LIRR engines for signal compatibility. Just a thought.Their main excuse for any extra Montauk service is an equiptment shortage. Well. how are the LIRR suits addressing this problem..? The south fork is strangling in traffic in the summer. Double tracking the line or ripping it up all together east of Speonk & make another highway on the right of way is in the future. One or the other. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 22 20:28:36 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 22 20:26:48 2015. different cab signal for one, but no matter if they ran 3 cannonballs, everyone would still be on first one, cause it makes weekend longer. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 22 22:18:07 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 22 20:28:36 2015. Even if they ran pull-pull with LIRR engines on each point?? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 23 03:39:38 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 22 20:28:36 2015. The only thing stopping them from running sections is lack of iniative. And if one thinks riders would insist on riding the first section to save 15 or 30 minutes, charge extra. 3 sections 15 minutes apart all reserved seats is the way to go. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 23 04:01:27 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 23 03:39:38 2015. Reserved seats =/= New Yorkers.I want it now ... too busy to make plans. Push-push-push-push. That's how it works. And why I left. :) |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Aug 23 05:01:28 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 23 03:39:38 2015. The only thing stopping them from running sections is lack of iniative.They actually run a second train after the 4:06 Eastbound Cannonball at 4:19, but that requires a change at Jamaica. It's unlikely that the LIRR would squander a train path at Penn Station for second section of the Cannonball, and given that they're supposedly cannibalizing cars from the other diesel runs to meet the needs on the Cannonball, it's highly unlikely that they'd bother doing it anytime soon. When ESA opens up and a new diesel fleet shows up*, maybe that might change. *The other option is to keep the existing diesel fleet and reallocate its usage by extending electrification, and we know that's highly unlikely now. The rumours of Yaphank won't change the calculus much given that the Main Line barely has any service east of Ronkonkoma. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 06:07:01 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Aug 23 05:01:28 2015. Not only that, the 4:19's first stop in the Hamptons is 49 mins later than the Cannonball, so that makes it even less desirable. I wouldn't be surprised if it was crowded as well, since it makes extra stops. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 07:06:26 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 22 22:18:07 2015. NJT engines won't clear the canopies in Jamaica.LIRR has 32 pin MU cables. Everyone else has 27 pin. So nothing is compatible and nothing else fits. The only hope for expansion are GO Transit-like DMU's to take over the shorter consists to free up equipment. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 07:07:45 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 23 03:39:38 2015. There is the "little" matter of equipment compatibilities and clearances. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 07:08:41 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 22 20:26:48 2015. Better yet, doesn't the NY & Atlantic have some former LIRR locomotives? At the very least, they should be able to handle the signalling. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 07:08:55 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Aug 23 05:01:28 2015. There used to be an "Advance Cannonball". It runs 2 hours earlier now to save a trainset, so that is it likely reused on the 830pm train. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 07:15:23 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 22 20:28:36 2015. Then why not make both sections all-reserved? Each section would contain first-class reserved and coach reserved (same prices as before), plus a certain amount "standing room" reserved if people wish it. That should prevent the first section from being a sardine can. The second section can be LIC, Hunterspoint, or Jamaica if there is a dual power shortage, but otherwise the same or similar express service. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 23 07:37:43 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 22 22:18:07 2015. the engines have to interface with cars and LIRR mu connections and communications connections are NOT compatible with anything but LIRR cars. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:43:28 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 23 07:37:43 2015. What happend to thos Atlantic City sets? Did NJT take them over? Do they and "Parlour Accommodations" in them? Fitting through Jamaica would not be an issue, since they would be on the by-pass tracks anyway. Transition cars or adapters would fix the cable issue.Think outside the box. When someone objects, find the work around. Not you, Tillie, you can stay inside of the box, please! ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:45:33 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 23 04:01:27 2015. $75.00 fare on first train out, $60.00 fare on second train out, $45.00 fare on third train out. Return trains are all $45.00.Problem solved. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:48:15 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 07:07:45 2015. Clearances are moot, since these trains would by-pas Jamaica on tracks 0 and 9. Equipment can be obtained.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:50:16 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 07:08:41 2015. If these trains went out Locomotive First, they would not need the second locomotive on the back. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Aug 23 09:26:23 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:43:28 2015. You're dealing with the LIRR. They can't handle anything that's one bit outside the box. If they're looking at a solution for next season, it wouldn't be rocket science to have some P40's set up with LIRR cab signals, and they would run with coaches from NJT or somewhere with a normal MU setup. MBTA has a ton of excess single-level coaches, although I'm not sure if they would clear the third rail without some modifications.Once you talk about new equipment, a LOT needs to be done on the diesel fleet side, including DMUs. You'd think they would have changed their signal system at some point to be compatible with the PRR/Amtrak system, but no, they had to be different. Because stupid LIRR. Another, more immediate solution would be to kill off the Cannonball entirely, and make people switch at Babylon, so they could offer more service into the Hamptons. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Aug 23 09:34:08 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Aug 23 09:26:23 2015. NJT got rid of them them to CDOT, apparently for NHHS. Yay, CT Dept of Tar, buy some more giant locomotives that are completely inappropriate for any of our services!Amtrak still has some, although they may be in bad condition. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:54:50 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:48:15 2015. But they don't bypass Jamaica when they come back, and you cannot force such a constraint, such as if the train had to stop at Jamaica, such as for a medical emergency, or stuck switches, or a stuck train. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:56:41 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 07:15:23 2015. What "both sections" ? There is no "Advance Cannonball" as such anymore. It run 2 hours earlier now, and in the last 20 years, to save a train set, which we do not have anymore. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:57:34 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 07:08:41 2015. They are 40 years old, and they have no 480-v HEP generators. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:58:40 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:50:16 2015. The Super Steel locos are too heavy for the Shinnecock bridge to run together |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 11:05:13 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 23 07:43:28 2015. 7 of the 8 MLV Atlantic City MLV cars have been rebuilt back into conventional NJT commuters cars and run as such today. That was also a result of Sandy flood damage. One remains as is for an unknown reason.The 4 P40's are laying around MMC most of the time. They would have to be equipped with LIRR speed control and cab signals. There are no coaches available that I know of. The NJT Comet-3 cars all require major work and all were seriously flood damaged in Bay Head and MMC. MARC may sell their MARC-I Sumitomo cars, but they may not. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Aug 23 11:43:24 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Aug 23 09:26:23 2015. And you want the same "stupid LIRR" to take back the Rockaway Beach branch? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 23 12:10:30 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Aug 22 05:20:30 2015. Huh? He said "some". How is that not true? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 23 13:33:22 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:54:50 2015. Which is why I believe the LIRR outlier hardware/structures must be rebuilt to be standard. You do notice that all of the freight RRs have been reaming out clearances,and after decades of different fuel fillers and cab signals, most mainline diesels can operate nationwide w/a standardized MU cable system. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 14:35:16 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 11:05:13 2015. Then IMO, LIRR should pay for the fixup of the Comet 3 cars in exchange for leasing them for extra service for the mid term. It won't solve the problem for this season, but as soon as the cars can be used, they can be used to add extra diesel service which the LIRR always needs. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 14:37:46 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:56:41 2015. I'm talking about the proposed "second train" which would follow the Cannonball, not the current 4:19pm.Thinking about it further, the second train may not even have to be reserved. It depends on the load for that train. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 14:39:15 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 14:35:16 2015. I agree, other than the DMU, I see no other alternative.But they are hell bent on M-9 acquisitions for the next 10 years, running the M-3's into the ground, and pretend to be unaware of the diesel fleet issue. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 14:41:27 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 10:57:34 2015. Regardless of age, we just need to know if they are in good running condition. I assume NYARR removed the HEP generators, can something else be added (another locomotive or even a baggage car with the generator) that would provide the power? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 14:47:25 2015, in response to Re: ''Feds Probe Safety Concerns On LIRR’s Cannonball Express'', posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 23 14:41:27 2015. LIRR never had 480v AC HEP generators. The old FA power packs supplied 650v DC.I suppose they make a generator car out of an old baggage car from Amtrak. Come to think of it, LIRR has power car 3100 sitting out in the weeds in Morris Park. It was old FA ex-Western Maryland power pack that they butchered into a HEP car to run with the C-1's before they got the FL9's, which were cut up many years ago in Harmon. |
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