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Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 8 21:03:44 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 21:01:05 2010. He would. He wants to be an NYCT C/R. He's waiting for the Verizon call from the dugout. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Aug 8 21:04:33 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Aug 8 20:43:29 2010. Lets start with all of the MTA managers working for free first... Starting with Jay Walder! |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 8 21:04:50 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 20:57:04 2010. Correct. But it seems that most people earn straight salaries. I could be wrong, but the only non union people who get paid by the hour are people like take-out food delivery employees, who proabably get paid off the books, and foot messengers (if they still have those), who usually work part time anyway. That's why there is always such a backlash when the media does reports on people earning overtime. Because most people don't earn overtime. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Sun Aug 8 21:05:59 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Aug 8 20:43:29 2010. No one in their right mind would work for free. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Aug 8 21:07:08 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 19:31:27 2010. Maybe NYCT will have a reduction in sick leave if they have people assigned to clean facilities, to supply soap and paper towels at all times.This is probably going to sound callous, but maybe as a union, you guys should just buy your own cleaning supplies? Admittedly, this is something the employer should provide, but to me it seems silly to allow one's self to get sick by not bringing in supplies on an individual or group basis. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 21:07:50 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Sun Aug 8 21:05:59 2010. Much as I love this business, I am sorry, no freebies here!!! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Aug 8 21:08:46 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 20:57:04 2010. Daily overtime is usually contractual between unions and employers. The Federal law calls for overtime if you WORK over 40 hours in a week. Work time under federal rules does not include paid time off such as vacation, sick or holiday.So under Federal rules you can work 10 hours each on Monday through Thursday, call in sick on Friday and get paid 48 hours straight time. OTOH if you were to work on that Friday instead of calling in sick you would get 40 hours straight and 8 hours o/t... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 21:10:30 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 8 20:45:03 2010. That's right. The report is refering to all overtime.Come to think of it, the report implies that all the extra money the employees are making causes the deficit. That is inaccurate. Speaking for NYCT, lots of overtime for bus operators, train dispatchers, and conductors, just to name a few titles, comes out of the capital budget for GO's. For example, any dispatcher working a job made necessary by a GO and a bus operator doing shuttle bustitution work, is getting paid out of the capital budget and not the operating budget. This means their pay is being reimbursed. But this report does not take that into account. Common sense and observations dictate that a lot of bus operators are making big bucks thanks to all these RTO GO's. There are only so many extra list operators available to work these jobs as well as the regular runs in each depot. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 8 21:15:27 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Aug 8 21:07:08 2010. On BNSF, rules stipulate that a locomotive can not go out in service without a clean, supplied head.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 8 21:16:51 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 8 18:43:13 2010. Heh. Dewd ... you're living in the 1970's again ... grow your hair! :)Seriously ... all that's going on around you has all happened before, even this. Those of us who went through it the first time learned. Now it's your turn. :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 8 21:19:00 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Aug 8 20:43:29 2010. That's seriously kooky. You've heard of the 13th Amendment, besides? |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:19:34 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by BMTLines on Sun Aug 8 21:04:33 2010. This I agree with |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:19:48 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 21:07:50 2010. Ditto |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:21:00 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 21:10:30 2010. Exactly |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 8 21:21:06 2010, in response to NY1: "Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Union Turnpike on Sun Aug 8 16:55:47 2010. $600 Million DollarsSix hundred million dollars dollars? Where was the comptroller last year anyway . . . ? Letting things get out of comptrol? |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:30:03 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Aug 8 20:56:04 2010. No I don't :) I believe in Tim Taylor's mantra "MORE POWER!" lol (Tim Taylor is Tim Allen's character in TV's Home Improvement sitcom) |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:31:45 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 8 21:01:23 2010. Per federal and state labor laws poster non-salaried employees are entitled to time & a half for every quarter hour past 40 hours. (last read the poster 4 months back) |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:33:53 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 21:02:46 2010. I chose the Gennie too but 6 GP35Rs at once? Now that is overkill. lol |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 21:48:25 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:33:53 2010. Nah, that's making a statement!!! :-D |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:59:15 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 21:48:25 2010. Yes that is certainly a statement :) |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Aug 8 22:18:27 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 19:31:27 2010. There you go. In total agreement. But "cultures of blame" are common to New York workplaces. I think it's just the culture of the City itself. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 8 22:53:16 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 21:31:45 2010. Hmmmmm. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 8 22:53:36 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by BMTLines on Sun Aug 8 21:04:33 2010. No way. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Aug 8 23:05:21 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 21:02:46 2010. Whew! All 6! Just trying to level the whole thing, aren't ya? :-D |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 8 23:23:09 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Aug 8 23:05:21 2010. I think he is trying to vaporize ya LolI just wanted to level ya :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 9 02:42:40 2010, in response to NY1: "Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Union Turnpike on Sun Aug 8 16:55:47 2010. Excellent. I propose that we cut overtime to zero hours. When an employee reaches 40 hours, he/she should just stop whatever they are doing and leave.The Strappies can then walk home. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 9 02:51:42 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 20:57:04 2010. But if you get paid by the hour, union or not, I think it's Federal Law the employee gets time-and-a-half after 8 hours work in a day.The federal law only applies to the 40 hour workweek. Comp time is also illegal for private sector non-salaried employees In the non-union private sector, the federal 8 hour OT rule only applies to certain manufacturing, construction work and allied trades work done on federal contracts. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:15:59 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Aug 8 21:07:08 2010. This is probably going to sound callous, but maybe as a union, you guys should just buy your own cleaning supplies? Admittedly, this is something the employer should provide, but to me it seems silly to allow one's self to get sick by not bringing in supplies on an individual or group basis.You arent getting it some of us DO bring in our own stuff since we cant wait on the bosses to do the right thing. Now that being said people still and can get sick. Hope that answered your question... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:16:44 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 21:10:30 2010. Bill stop it some people cant understand fatcs! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:16:53 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:16:44 2010. *Facts |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:19:08 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 19:31:27 2010. Bill you beat me too it a read that "report" as well your post says it all!!Gonna bookmark this so when the clueless haters show up.... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:20:11 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 19:37:45 2010. I don't care, I'm talking about the accuracy of the media informing the public.Which Chris as usual falls for hook line and sinker... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:21:24 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 8 18:43:13 2010. This isn't about necessary overtime, this is about unecessary overtime. This argument does not apply.Wrong again as usual... |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Aug 9 07:23:24 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 9 02:51:42 2010. From D.O.L site:An employer who requires or permits an employee to work overtime is generally required to pay the employee premium pay for such overtime work. Employees covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) must receive overtime pay for hours worked in excess of 40 in a workweek of at least one and one-half times their regular rates of pay. The FLSA does not require overtime pay for work on Saturdays, Sundays, holidays, or regular days of rest, unless overtime hours are worked on such days. The FLSA, with some exceptions, requires bonus payments to be included as part of an employee's regular rate of pay in computing overtime. Extra pay for working weekends or nights is a matter of agreement between the employer and the employee (or the employee's representative). The FLSA does not require extra pay for weekend or night work or double time pay. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:23:53 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Aug 8 20:43:29 2010. No I wasn't. I seriously think that every MTA employee should work for free, and their salaries should go towards closing the budget gap, and making ridership free for all riders.Tell you what you can write the MTA a letter(begging) to get a job cleaning the work place bathrooms(for free) if you do good enough job then maybe you can clean stations(for free). Work your way up.. For free... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:25:54 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 8 18:37:16 2010. You already said this and you are STILL wrong... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 9 07:27:38 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Sun Aug 8 19:22:53 2010. When i seen this article in Sundays papaer i "knew" where it was going...Attacking NYCT workers... |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 9 10:23:00 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 9 02:42:40 2010. Or hire more workers for three times the cost. |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Aug 9 11:53:46 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 8 20:52:17 2010. I'm still being sarcastic, but that's EXACTLY what all of these articles seem to be implying - that the MTA's employees don't deserve to get paid, as if every craft worker is in on the conspiracy to raise fare prices and aren't just average joe workers trying to earn a living.....with the MTA, as with pretty much EVERY type of job, there are some bad apples who cheat the system to earn extra time/pay. I certainly know how to beat the system and not get caught in my profession, and I've known other people who DID get caught, so that's nothing unique to the MTA, but it doesn't mean that the people who DID put in the extra time and effort don't deserve to receive the overtime pay that they earned. Do you put in 7 day weeks on MNRR for the fun of it? Would you still work those extra shifts if you'd be getting the same salary? Neither would I....And you're right, if you cut salaries, then they will strike and start looking for new jobs, and none of the trains will move at all.... |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Aug 9 11:59:08 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 8 21:03:44 2010. Nope, sorry. I want to work for the NYCT to get a steady paycheck. Working around trains is a nice bonus, but I know where to draw the line between a hobby and a career. Right now I work with computers, which is another big passion of mine, and I have done a couple of freebies, but I'm not leaving my house and going on site without a contract in place guaranteeing that I will be compensated for my time and effort.Nobody seems to realize that the people running the subway, trains, busses, etc are actual humans who are trying to earn that paycheck too. Fares plus government subsidiaries are what pay their salaries. Bitch about fare hikes all you want, but if the workers aren't getting their $100,000 a year, then you better believe they ain't gonna keep working, and then you can keep your fare money and put it towards buying a car. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:07:17 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by BMTLines on Sun Aug 8 20:04:47 2010. Right, Maybe you don't get it. I don't care which sub agency it is, the MTA is in the sales tax, they are on my cellphone bill landline bills, they are on my property tax, overcharge on the crossings, they are in my vehicle registration fees and they indirectly charge my employer a 1% payroll tax, THEY NEED TO GET THEIR COSTS UNDER CONTROL BEFORE DIGGING IN OUR POCKETS TO PAY OVERTIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 9 12:08:01 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Aug 9 11:59:08 2010. That's not what you said, even after you were questioned about your initial response. So no, your "nope sorry" is in reference to your own words, not to mine.Furthermore, my point was that since you do want to work for NYCT, and since you were adamantly saying that NYCT employees should work for free, that you were therefore willing to work for free. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:14:51 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 8 18:34:23 2010. NO! The outrage is aimed at the *MTA* which is always asking Albany to dig into our pockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It does not get simpler than that folks, it really doesn't. It's like that family member who is always asking for money, then they go buy something expensive and unnecessary. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:17:45 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 8 21:10:30 2010. It doesn't matter which budget it comes from, the MTA is always crying broke. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:21:57 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Aug 9 11:53:46 2010. The articles feed on the publics anger toward the MTA and their money gubbing INEFFICIENT ways. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:23:13 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 9 12:08:01 2010. You all can not sense the OBVIOUS sarcasm in his posts? Geeze |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:28:53 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 9 10:23:00 2010. Or control costs in other areas so they don't have to have their hand out to pay overtime. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 9 12:42:08 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:14:51 2010. The outrage is aimed at the *MTA* which is always asking Albany to dig into our pockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No, the MTA has asked no such thing. They have asked for dedicated funding. It is Albany that digs into our pockets. Take Pride,
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 9 12:43:30 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:17:45 2010. It doesn't matter which budget it comes from, the MTA is always crying broke. No they're not. BTW, you can usually spot the specious arguments when words like "always" are used. Take Pride,
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 9 12:45:05 2010, in response to Re: NY1: ''Straphangers Outraged By M.T.A.'s $600 M Overtime Bill, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Aug 9 12:23:13 2010. You can not sense the stupidity in continuing to assert that one is serious and not being sarcastic and then the next day deciding to do an about face and claim one was being sarcastic? |
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