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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 22:19:27 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 20:47:25 2010.

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Thanks, I am not too famaliar with that part of Brooklyn or Queens. I have seen pictures of the Pulaski Bridge, (not to be confused with the Pulaski Skyway to Newark). I will have to turn over some rocks to find out more information about the Vernon Blvd Bridge.


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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 13 22:21:32 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 13 21:58:31 2010.

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Rolling Rock

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 22:25:24 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 13 20:37:46 2010.

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Bert and Harry, Right. I was home from overseas on leave when we went to the '64 World's Fair. We took the Flushing train also.
See my 2nd Ave El '39 Worlds Fair pics.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4 - Vernon Blvd Bridge?

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 22:26:07 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4 - Vernon Blvd Bridge?, posted by Qveensboro_Plaza on Tue Jul 13 21:02:59 2010.

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Yes, that is what was done. The approach remained for a while.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 22:27:00 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 22:19:27 2010.

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It was a great vantage point to take photos of the LIRR's Hunters Point Terminal.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 23:31:26 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 22:27:00 2010.

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This is a 1903 map inset of the Borden Ave location


so, the location of the photo is the intersection of Borden and Front looking east.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Jul 13 23:38:49 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 13 18:13:57 2010.

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And Abraham grew old, and came along in days; and G-d blessed
Abraham in everything
Genesis 24:1

The Torah considers old age a virtue and a blessing. Throughout the Torah, “old” (zakein) is synonymous with “wise”; the Torah commands us to respect all elderly, regardless of their scholarship and piety, because the many trials and experiences that each additional year of life brings yield a wisdom which the most accomplished young prodigy cannot equal.


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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 23:41:42 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 23:31:26 2010.

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Great map! Thank you.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 23:45:09 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Jul 13 23:38:49 2010.

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Thank you Mr. Mabstoa. Unfortunately, Weinberg appears to be quite a giant-sized hypocrite. He has no respect for ANYONE, regardless of age. Only he is right about everything. Perhaps the Saviour is already on earth and continually posting on this board but we are all too unwilling to recognize that fact.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 13 23:53:16 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Qveensboro_Plaza on Tue Jul 13 16:40:55 2010.

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Just above the left top of the 'y" in the (incredibly annoying) "Mystery Photo" watermark

Thank you for saying what EVERYONE is thinking, that this unscrupulous Joe Saitta character is being a real jackass by placing giant text in his mystery photos. Maybe if unscrupulous Joe Saitta wasn't so busy possibly stealing others photos and definitely underhandedly and shamelessly promoting his ebay auctions and his books he'd have time to learn how to label his photos without ruining the viewing enjoyment for everyone. It seems unscrupulous Joe Saitta is incapable of not thinking about making money and puts that above all other endeavors.


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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 00:07:52 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 23:41:42 2010.

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Here is a 1922 image of trolley car #3792 on the open Vernon Blvd Bridge.


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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 00:13:12 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 00:07:52 2010.

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Again, a beautiful shot. The bridge is open for boats to pass through the Newtown Creek. Re your map - was that from a Belcher & Hyde book?

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 00:40:26 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 00:13:12 2010.

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Yes, it is from the Hyde map.
Dr. Jaeckle is out.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 00:56:45 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 00:40:26 2010.

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Thank you. I have a few of these myself but not that particular one. That photo is being used in a makeover of Vincent Seyfried's book that I'm doing, The New York & Queens County Railway / Steinway Lines. For more decades than I care to remember, I've been collecting photos from those two systems as I promised Vincent long ago I'd redo his book, which was his first and published in 1950. I do all the typesetting, layout, design, scanning, etc.so when the book goes to the printer it's completely camera-ready. This version will be in two volumes, the first with Vincent's written history and many photos from the College Point-Flushing-Jamaica Line, the second volume will have photos only from the remaining NY&QCR lines plus Steinway Lines. My granddaughter, 14 years old, is doing the raw typsetting, meaning she's inputting Vincent's text and then I correct it and make it look typographically good. She's a really big help.

As an aside, as you probably know since you're a long-time traction fan, Mr. Seyfried published, long ago, books on all Queens traction systems except the Manhattan & Queens. It took me a few years but I finally convinced him, as he approached his late 80's in age, to do the M&Q, which was finally released about two years ago. Thus there is a traction history for every Queens operation.

As an aside, just a few weeks ago I was culling out my rollsign collection, looking at some which were given to me but never opened. One almost threw me to the floor with surprise. I've had it for decades but never opened it. It was from Manhattan & Queens car #112, the last car to operate on that system. In a magic marker type of pen, that fact was inscribed on the rollsign by whomever was fortunate enough to have had the sign before me (I know who it was and he gifted me many rollsigns). Soon as I have some time, I'll photograph this sign and post it - it will not be a mystery rollsign. If I had only know that I had this actual sign, I would have included it in the M&Q book.....

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 14 01:01:23 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 00:56:45 2010.

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Seems like you have a whole lot more to put on your resume than a certain poster in here who takes pictures of black kids playing instruments in the subway!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 01:14:39 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 14 01:01:23 2010.

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Thank you! A whole lot more. I'd like to know just one thing - only one - that he has done to preserve or promote our hobby. I do not believe the photos he posted of that 7 train nor the photos he just posted in BusChat were taken by him. They are good photos and Weinberg just doesn't know how to take a good photo. Those two photos taken of the black kids in the subway were pure Weinberg trash. Too bad he disrespected those kids this way. But "disrespect" is his middle name.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 14 01:17:56 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 01:14:39 2010.

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Yeah, I mean that picture sunk to all time lows!
The kid on the drum doesn't even look happy!
What a depressing picture, I want to drink poison now!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 01:25:21 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 14 01:17:56 2010.

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If you drink poison now, you won't be able to enjoy any more of Weinberg's hypocritical antics. I loved the quote from the bible, I believe, that you posted. It was extremely appropriate and proved his hypocrisy.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 14 08:07:33 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 13 22:21:32 2010.

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Yuck! That stuff is putrid!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 14 08:08:46 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 23:31:26 2010.

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I thought I posted this yesterday, but it must not have taken.
Look at all the platforms LIC station had!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 14 08:20:03 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 14 08:07:33 2010.

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Well that's the stuff Latrobe is most famous for, AFAIK. L-rd knows I've heard the commericials millions of times in my young and impressionable years.

I think I've had Rolling Rock once. I don't remember it being as bad as Bud.

But if it really is that bad, lets send a case to Joe Saitta so he can have a taste of his own medicine, so to speak, LOL!

Hey, speaking of beer, are we going to do a NH Line bar car trip one evening this summer?

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 14 08:54:57 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 14 08:20:03 2010.

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We should finally do that bar car trip LOL.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 14 09:34:08 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 14 08:54:57 2010.

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We should finally do that bar car trip LOL.

Yes, we should!


Take Pride,
Terrapin Station


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Re: Mystery Photo 4 - Vernon Blvd Bridge?

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jul 14 09:34:49 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4 - Vernon Blvd Bridge?, posted by Qveensboro_Plaza on Tue Jul 13 21:02:59 2010.

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It sounds strange but I have this memory of riding in the family car through that neighborhood and seeing a derelict steel structure that abruptly ended in mid-path.

You're not the only one, I saw that bridge approach sometime in the '60s. My father who once lived in LIC drove through the area when I noticed it.

I tried to revisit the area years ago, but could not find the bridge approach. But now you cleared up a mystery that has been bugging me for years.

I do remember cars parked on the approach of what remained of that bridge. Thanks !

Bill Newkirk



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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jul 14 09:45:13 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 20:47:25 2010.

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I don't mean to hijack your thread, but check these two Vernon Blvd photos from Kevin Walsh's Forgotten-NY. Click for link to article Scroll down a bit.



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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 14 10:00:46 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jul 14 09:45:13 2010.

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You can hijack Joe Saitta's threads whenever you want. Joe Saitta doesn't deserve them. Thank you Newkirk Images for the nice photos.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 14 10:06:01 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 14 10:00:46 2010.

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And Tamar Weinberg can hijack and basically own all your cameras whenever she wants, because we all know you do not deserve them nor have any clue as to what to do with them, while she does!!

Keep on being a loudmouth, you pretentious wanna-be photographer, yet literal idiot!! That's why you rep goes down the toilet, along with any semblance of your so-called photography skills. Maybe you can sit down and let Tamar teach you how to use a camera properly.

Joe Saitta's photos FAR exceed yours!! You should just shut up, and learn a little!!! Do us all that favor!!

Aren't you supposed to be sorting mail in the Stantec mailroom right now??? Better go back to work before they wise up and fire your dumb ass!!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:16:13 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 14 10:06:01 2010.

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Thank you for your compliment. This man Weinberg is, in my opinion and I'm quite certain in the opinion of many others, is just a plain loser every way in life. But he's too dumb to recognize it. As to his photographs, my 6-year-old grandson has taken better ones than he has. I'm passing off my 50+ years of photographic experience to my grandkids; thank goodness they're interested in learning.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 14 10:17:08 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 14 01:17:56 2010.

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"What a depressing picture, I want to drink poison now! "

Sounds like what most REAL photographers would say after seeing one of Brian's so-called photo posts!!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 14 10:21:43 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:16:13 2010.

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I hope they are every bit as good as you are!! :-)

Brian has no understanding whatsoever what to do with good cameras!! His photos are poorly focused, under or overexposed, and simply just uninteresting in every way. He is probably too clueless to even consider using Photoshop to maybe make his shots a little more worthy of being viewed.

Keep on posting what you take and what you have, Joe!! And let Subchat's pretentious, wannabe photographer just weep in his lackluster abilities and his life of being a miserable loser capable of nothing but being a disgrace to rail photographers everywhere!! The VAST majority here enjoy your photos (including myself, though you stumped me MANY times with the "Mystery Photo" series!! :-D).

Keep on postin', and keep on shootin', Joe!! Let the wannabe continue to be just that......a wannabe!!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:32:24 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 14 10:17:08 2010.

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Including myself. But taking the poison would satisfy Mr.Perfect, the know-it-all.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 10:44:33 2010, in response to Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Jul 13 14:22:12 2010.

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Here is a 1938 view of the area, 2nd Ave East of Borden



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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 14 10:48:17 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 10:44:33 2010.

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That's amazing.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:51:20 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 10:44:33 2010.

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Great shot. But the trolley wire is missing, the NY&QCR routes having been abandoned just a short time before.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:55:21 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 10:44:33 2010.

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The building second from left, with the arched windows, was a carbarn, but accessible only from the other side on 51st Avenue (formerly Third Street), at least in later years. The large doors shown in this photo, however, indicate there may have been an entrance from Borden Avenue at one time, especially since there was a stub-end track on Borden that ended just east of the carbarn, from which it may have curved into the barn.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 14 11:15:55 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:32:24 2010.

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LOL!!

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 14 11:30:32 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 13 20:58:33 2010.

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Jimmy Breslin's Piels TV commercials were great inasmuch in them, you could get the feel of a good old fashioned neighborhood gin mill.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Jul 14 12:34:40 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Wed Jul 14 10:44:33 2010.

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Here's a view centered on the Long Island City Hotel around 1898 (the tall building before the building with the "Fletcher's Castoria" ad.



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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Randyo on Wed Jul 14 14:05:00 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 13 17:43:09 2010.

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When I first started drinking, I noticed that Piel's seemed to taste watered down compared to other brands such as Ballantine's which my father used to drink. These days I prefer a darker beer or ale such as Smithwick's and even on occasion Guinness or other types of stout. On a really hot day, however when COLD matters more than taste, I might go to one of the light beers like Coors or a Bud Light depending upon what the bartender says is the coldest beer in the house.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Randyo on Wed Jul 14 14:11:35 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 13 20:23:10 2010.

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I seem to recall that Blatz sponsored the Amos n' Andy TV shows in the late 1950s and the company slogan was "the beer that made Milwaukee famous" which surprised me since that was also the Schlitz slogan.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 14 14:13:07 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 13 22:08:37 2010.

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I remember Piels coming in those goofy glass bottles Red Stripe now uses:



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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by monorail on Wed Jul 14 20:57:05 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Randyo on Wed Jul 14 14:05:00 2010.

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'When I first started drinking'

bet you were just a babe.....

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Bill West on Thu Jul 15 02:42:29 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 14 10:51:20 2010.

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“....trolley wire is missing,”
Ah, that’s what the cut off span wires hanging from the poles on the right are about. History can often be confirmed by the smallest detail.

Bill

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 15 07:21:54 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 14 14:13:07 2010.

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Yes, me too. My father used to drink Utica Club when I was a kid too, and they also had that strange small bottles, as did Schmidts.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 15 07:22:43 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 14 08:54:57 2010.

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I would think about it too.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 15 09:35:46 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 15 07:22:43 2010.

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It would be fun.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by JohnCento on Thu Jul 15 16:39:17 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Mellow One on Tue Jul 13 21:32:19 2010.

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Nope, the music is not from a German operea, its the "Estudiantina Waltz" by Emile Waldteufel.

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Re: Mystery Photo 4

Posted by monorail on Thu Jul 15 19:13:26 2010, in response to Re: Mystery Photo 4, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 14 08:54:57 2010.

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as long as they got 'monkey bars' on the train, count me in!!!

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