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PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides |
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Posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 6 12:59:00 2010 Get ready for extreme makeover, mass transit edition.Commuters who take PATH trains from New Jersey to Manhattan are going to notice improvements over the next several years, including more benches, cleaner surroundings and better loudspeaker systems, not to mention a nearly complete overhaul of one of the rail system's decaying stations. The upgrades are part of a $200 million, 10-year project by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey that is being funded partly by the extra $2 motorists have been paying at the city's bridges and tunnels since 2008. The bistate agency hopes the improvements make commuting more enjoyable for the approximately 70 million passengers who ride PATH each year as well as buff up the system's reputation for being drab, dirty and uncomfortable. "We're trying to make it more commuter friendly," PATH deputy executive director Bill Baroni told The Record newspaper. "Like all good transit systems, we're evolving constantly." One of the biggest projects will to be transform the Harrison station just outside Newark. The 97-year-old station is scheduled for more than $100 million in improvements, including replacing its aging platform and tiny waiting room with sleek, glass- and steel-covered pavilions. Officials said the improvements at the Harrison station are envisioned to coincide with the area's planned residential and commercial redevelopment as well as the increased traffic generated by the Red Bull Arena soccer stadium. Other stations will be spruced up with new seating, lighting and flooring, and loudspeaker systems that blare out frequently unintelligible announcements will be replaced. Platforms along the corridor between Newark and the World Trade Center will be expanded to accommodate longer trains that will be able to carry an additional 400 passengers per trip, the Port Authority said. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/path_stations_to_receive_200m.html |
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Posted by 9 local on Tue Jul 6 13:05:58 2010, in response to PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 6 12:59:00 2010. Red Bull Arena leading to increased traffic? Who do they think they are, the EPL? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 6 13:07:20 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by 9 local on Tue Jul 6 13:05:58 2010. Even 5000 people a game is a substantial increase in ridership. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 6 13:08:17 2010, in response to PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 6 12:59:00 2010. Here come 8 car trains. It'll be a challenge lengthening some stations to accomodate them. Like 9th and Christopher Sts. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jul 6 14:12:06 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 6 13:08:17 2010. Increased train length would only be NWK-WTC... which already can handle 8 cars. The only stop that couldn't was Exchange Place eastbound (conductor would not open the first car), and it was renovated after 9/11 to be able to accommodate 9 or 10 car trains.Now, the number of 400 people makes me think that they are doing more than 8 cars (can you picture 400 people in one path car?). And for that, only Newark and Exchange Place are ready. Possibly Journal Square can handle 9. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jul 6 14:13:38 2010, in response to PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 6 12:59:00 2010. You can't just change your handle to suit the agency you're posting about, Leonard. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 6 14:15:47 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jul 6 14:12:06 2010. Newark can "handle" far longer trains than the other stations can, which is kinda funny. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 6 14:16:26 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jul 6 14:13:38 2010. Does he have a WMATA-specific handle? I don't recall seeing one. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 6 14:27:48 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jul 6 14:12:06 2010. It would still be a challenge to lengthen Grove St. And I think the 33rd St stations could all use 8 car trains as well. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Jul 6 14:28:19 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 6 13:08:17 2010. It's for 10 car trains on the NWK-WTC line.The other lines might stay the same with 7 cars because of the fact some stations would have to undergo a serious renovation and expanding project (Hoboken and 33rd Street as terminals most definitely because of how they are set up). IMHO, neither of the Hoboken lines need extra car(s). During the rush hour you may not find a seat, but there is a considerable amount of room to stand for a 10-15 ride tops. The JSQ-33rd St line could definitely use longer trains during the rush, but the solution may not come easy. Maybe add more trains to the schedule if possible but at 4-5 minutes between trains during the rush already, that might add congestion from Grove Street to Journal Square with the NWK-WTC line running at about the same. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Jul 6 14:36:48 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 6 14:27:48 2010. It would still be a challenge to lengthen Grove St.It won't be too much of a challenge though. The new entrance at Grove Street was a set up for expanding the platform. It is a matter opening the walls along the walkway and make it ready for service. PATH has been wanting to renovate Grove Street for quite a while now. With this project of expanding the platforms for more cars, it can finally be done. But I think because of WTC construction and single tracking between EX PL and WTC during the weekends, they don't want to disrupt the service as it is already (which sucks already cause trains get held up if another doesn't clear on time). |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jul 6 15:38:09 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 6 14:16:26 2010. Forest Glen. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 6 18:21:41 2010, in response to PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 6 12:59:00 2010. So none of that money is going towards getting rid of the horrible smell the PATH train has? |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jul 6 19:08:55 2010, in response to PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 6 12:59:00 2010. Will one of the improvements be removing the infamous stink at the Hoboken station ? : )Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 6 19:35:15 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jul 6 15:38:09 2010. That's more vague than specific. It's just a town in Maryland. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 6 21:05:45 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jul 6 19:08:55 2010. Feh ... HOB is roses and lilacs compared to Pavonia/Newport. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 6 21:13:12 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 6 19:35:15 2010. Everyone but you knew that he meant the WMATA station. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 6 21:46:01 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jul 6 19:08:55 2010. I don't think after 100 years the smells that are unique to the PATH (and it's not only at Hoboken but in other places too) will ever go away. |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 6 21:49:23 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 6 14:15:47 2010. Track 2 at Newark (if you include the fenced off section) can hold an 18 car train.There's a reason Newark Penn & Secaucus have such long platforms, btw. Wait for it... It's so that when Portal drawbridge malfunctions, all of the stranded trains will be able to platform at these two stations, providing transfers for the riders. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Jul 6 21:52:11 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 6 21:46:01 2010. Wish it would go away from JSQ eww |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Jul 6 23:59:35 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 6 21:05:45 2010. It's the mould and moisture that gets in behind that funky textured ceiling. It's quite a unique reek.-w- |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 7 00:32:38 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Jul 6 23:59:35 2010. Most definitely is ... you get that same reek in Howe Caverns up here. PATH smells like home. Heh. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Wed Jul 7 10:17:24 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 6 18:21:41 2010. Only way that smell goes away is if the Hudson dries up. Until then, Eau de H&M will be around for time to come.Vader |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Wed Jul 7 10:19:56 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by arnine on Tue Jul 6 21:52:11 2010. Ditto. Garbage freight relays in bad heat cause the stink of stinks.Vader |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Jul 7 11:14:46 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Lord Vader on Wed Jul 7 10:19:56 2010. Yes it does and should be banned but I know realistically it can't be banned |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 12:57:40 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 6 21:13:12 2010. I changed my handle because I was demonized for being a WMATA fan. Forest Glen is dead. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 22:12:13 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 12:57:40 2010. You have some very odd perceptions of what people think. Now you look like a fair-weather (or even fake) WMATA fan, per what you say here. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 22:13:06 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 6 21:13:12 2010. No, it's not relevant what he meant. "Forest Glen" is still not WMATA-specific no matter his intent. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 22:15:28 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 6 21:49:23 2010. Now if NJT were really clever, they'd be able to transfer people onto trains on the lower level, and then send those trains to Newark Division points via the West End Wye and the Waterfront Connection, in the case of a PORTAL malfunction. But I doubt they're really clever, given their recent capital projects . . . |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 7 22:26:06 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 12:57:40 2010. Ok, but it was just 2 or 3 people (aside from you) participating in that subthread and probably not that many more reading it.FWIW I liked L Train. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 7 22:35:52 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 22:13:06 2010. He did say it was his 'name sake' when a list of station usage was posted. So it has to be the WMATA station. |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 22:46:13 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 22:12:13 2010. I was a fan of the DC Metro but haters killed my interest. Forest Glen is dead. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 7 23:01:00 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Easy on Wed Jul 7 22:26:06 2010. And the only things being said was the WMATA was not all that perfect. Even Sandbox John made this statement: "I happen to agree with Oren. Your praise and admiration for WMATA is in my opinion based on your inability and or lack of desire to see the big picture. You make yourself look like fool with your juvenile, boiler plate, everything is wonderful at WMATA posts.John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore." Hardly a person with a vendetta against anyone. And that comment is what I agreed with, nothing more. That's where it snowballed basically. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 7 23:09:03 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 12:57:40 2010. Way to totally miss the point. AGAIN :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 23:13:31 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 22:46:13 2010. No, that makes no sense at all. Even if I were up against hundreds of CNJ haters online, that would never kill my interest in the CNJ. Now you look like a fake even more. |
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Posted by Midnight Rider on Wed Jul 7 23:17:24 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 12:57:40 2010. Hey, be proud of being a fan of WMATA! Don't change your handle just because some pissants want to be intolerant towards you because of it. Screw whoever hates what you like - if you like it, show it off proudly! |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 7 23:22:25 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Midnight Rider on Wed Jul 7 23:17:24 2010. This was hardly intolerant. |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:23:43 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 7 23:22:25 2010. Go fuck yourself |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:24:26 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Midnight Rider on Wed Jul 7 23:17:24 2010. Thanks for the support, but it's time for me to move forward and let the past be the past. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 23:31:30 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:24:26 2010. Move forward with what? Looking like a fake fan the whole time? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 7 23:35:01 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:23:43 2010. Real mature... and you are still wrong as even Sand Box John points out. |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:40:04 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 7 23:35:01 2010. We've always had our disagreements but at the very least I used to respect you. You were a Yankees fan and you posted pictures of trains, buses, and roller coasters. I honestly believed that you were a decent guy that I simply didn't see eye to eye with. Then, you showed your true colors by antagonizing me at NYCTF and befriending LRG. Before your joined NYCTF I didn't get into a single flame war. As soon as you joined that's when the problems started. Do me a favor and just leave me the hell alone. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 7 23:47:49 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 7 23:31:30 2010. fakeisthenewreal |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 7 23:58:04 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:40:04 2010. Seriously? Grand Concourse befriended LRG???? Talk about a serious error in judgment of character on his part. Then again I'm not surprised. Sigh. |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:59:35 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 7 23:58:04 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jul 8 00:01:22 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:40:04 2010. Fine, but if I state my opinions in agreement about how I feel SOME express buses are a waste, you comment directly to ppl like R30A or trainsarefun first.I had no issues with you, but why you felt you had to defend the WMATA at all costs even though Sand Box John and Oren both stated otherwise I don't understand. And then I agreed with them and you think this has anything to do with what happened in the past. Any reasonable person would see the fault in even things they like, but your problem was that the WMATA 'could do no wrong'. And everything the MTA does you bash just to justify your disdain for it. It's a friggin opinion. I understand you like the WMATA, but you don't have to be an apologist about it. If you were willing to accept they made mistakes [god knows the NYCT subways has problems of their own], then that would've been fine and no problems would've came up from it. Flame wars would've happened eventually even if I wasn't there. Also after everything regarding the photos stuff, you comment on only the express buses like nothing else was posted. Would it kill you to say 'nice pics and i like the express bus pics'? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 8 00:09:08 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by PATHman on Wed Jul 7 23:59:35 2010. Thanks. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Jul 8 00:20:58 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jul 8 00:01:22 2010. And then I agreed with them and you think this has anything to do with what happened in the past.Sounds familiar around these parts.... |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Jul 8 07:35:28 2010, in response to Re: PATH stations to receive $200M in upgrades to better commuters' train rides, posted by Midnight Rider on Wed Jul 7 23:17:24 2010. IAWTP |
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