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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 24 22:09:57 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 24 22:03:54 2010.

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And until the early 90's, just about every one of them got off by Knickerbocker, and if not, by Wyckoff. Rarely did you see Hispanic people at Seneca, Forest, Fresh Pond, or Metro until about 1992 or so.
That peaked probably in the late 90's, as Polish began to take over during the 2000's, although Hispanics still have a presence in Ridgewood.

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Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jun 24 22:37:41 2010, in response to Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse, posted by checkthedoorlight on Thu Jun 24 09:13:59 2010.

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Personally, I would like to see them extend the L up 9th Avenue to a new three-track terminal with tail tracks. This way, the L can run more trains per hour, better serve West Midtown and riders headed for that area can stay on the L to their final destination.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Jun 24 23:00:18 2010, in response to Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jun 24 03:57:09 2010.

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I lived on N.9th and Bedford from 1992 (when we moved from Clinton Hill due to high rents) til Nov 08 when we moved on to the East Vinyl Siding section of Greenpoint up Nassau.

Even in the early oughts the L was getting nuts. We said so at some of the Community Board meetings and during the Engine 212 rallys. The L couldnt handle it, especially if the hoards got on further back on the line. Northside is like the East Village in the 80's and 90's. Yes, you are right, the hipsters are mondo annoying and entitled, etc.

When we thought we beat the waste recycling and power plant on the waterfront, we all were joyful at actually getting a waterfront park until we realized it felt too easy. Next thing you know, the zoning got changed and now there's giant azz condos built over the BEDT yards, flame cut steel site, the tour bus garage, etc.

check diehipsters.com for amusement.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jun 24 23:24:25 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 24 19:01:31 2010.

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What if it doesnt work?

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Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 25 02:03:55 2010, in response to Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Alargule on Thu Jun 24 04:50:32 2010.

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Don't worey, be hap, guy.

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Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 25 02:06:04 2010, in response to Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse, posted by checkthedoorlight on Thu Jun 24 09:13:59 2010.

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In ATO, the train can enter Eighth Avenue at a damn good speed.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 25 07:54:37 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 24 21:33:21 2010.

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Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 25 07:56:10 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Jun 24 21:33:21 2010.

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Bedford has been a popular station for going on 20 years now....I am surprised it was never put into a renovation plan in that time.

I always liked the shape of the B monograms.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 25 08:02:31 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 25 07:54:37 2010.

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From NYCsubway.org.... Bedford hasn't changed much, even the color of the pillars are the same from 20 years ago....
It is one of the dingier stations on the L line, followed only by perhaps Wilson Ave lower, and 6th Ave in my opinion.



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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 25 08:05:28 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 25 08:02:31 2010.

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I mean the photo is from nycsubway.org, the comments are mine.
I reread that and I may not have been clear in how I posted that.

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Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jun 25 08:19:15 2010, in response to Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse, posted by Eric B on Thu Jun 24 20:33:23 2010.

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On the 6 Avenue one---the platform conductor would come from displaced conductors---HELLO!

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Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 25 10:59:00 2010, in response to Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jun 25 08:19:15 2010.

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On the 6 Avenue one---the platform conductor would come from displaced conductors---HELLO!

Considering they are BEGGING C/R's for overtime says that cant happen.


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Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 25 11:00:23 2010, in response to Re: Bedford Av (L) stop - going to get real worse, posted by checkthedoorlight on Thu Jun 24 09:13:59 2010.

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They've been short turning every other L at Myrtle during AM/PM rush ever since they finished the signaling project.

Actually they arent done with the signaling project they just finished a part of it..


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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 25 15:19:30 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jun 24 23:24:25 2010.

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Would some riders backtrack to Myrtle to take the 6th ave M?

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 25 15:29:05 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Jun 24 19:40:07 2010.

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I saw a "caucasian" lady walking through Hollis a couple of weeks ago from the grocery store I was like 0_0

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jun 25 15:33:29 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 25 15:19:30 2010.

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I doubt that, especially considering that they would have to go up escalators. It would be easier to reach midtown via the subway lines at Union Square or 6th Avenue.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Jun 25 16:40:57 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 25 15:29:05 2010.

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Maybe she was a cleaning lady? LOL

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 25 23:37:41 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 25 15:19:30 2010.

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No.
It;s safe to say little or no L riders will transfer to the M with or without the new M pattern. Were the help comes in for the L train is that less people will abandon the M train at Wyckoff to take the L instead.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Jun 26 00:20:42 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 25 08:05:28 2010.

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the contrast of the shiny NTT cars and the station is nice.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jun 27 00:28:16 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jun 25 15:19:30 2010.

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Railfans would, well some.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 27 02:16:17 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by monorail on Thu Jun 24 21:29:03 2010.

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I think he meant the bulk of some of the Eastern Division lines.

Now of course, things have changed quite a bit as gentrification continues to spread.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 27 02:17:40 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 24 22:05:28 2010.

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Exactly:

That was never completely true on the eastern division lines.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Sun Jun 27 05:15:37 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 24 21:58:14 2010.

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There have always been White people on every Eastern Division line. Besides the (M), the (J)had White customers heading to Woodhaven and the (L) had many white customers heading for Canarsie. Both neighborhoods were very into the '90s.

What is true is that outside of rush-hour you never/rarely would see white people on many lines particularly the (C) and the Brooklyn IRT. But during peak hours you would always see white customers on every line.

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Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 27 08:06:55 2010, in response to Re: Beford Av (L) stop - going to get real wore, posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Sun Jun 27 05:15:37 2010.

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There have always been White people on every Eastern Division line. Besides the (M), the (J)had White customers heading to Woodhaven and the (L) had many white customers heading for Canarsie. Both neighborhoods were very into the '90s

Of course. That's why that statement was ridiculous. I only defended the M, but of course, the other ones also never were non-white. The M one had me laugh the most, because north of Wyckoff, the train was just about 100% white right into the 90's, and even only then it only got a splashing of Hispanic.
The L line was fed from that northern end of the M at Myrtle/Wyckoff, and of course already had whites from Canarsie. The J was more mixed for it's whole length, but that's because the "white Neighborhood" was from about Forest parkway to 121st St.

To say any of them "had no whites" at one point is hilarious.

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