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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 10:26:27 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Eric B on Thu Feb 11 10:20:09 2010. You want to switch places then?I'm perfectly fine where I'm at now. The only thing I'm going to say is the day the M-V combo is killed, I'll be celebrating till next year. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 10:34:22 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 03:24:46 2010. You can't compare Jamaica Center & 179th Street to 2nd Avenue. Jamaica Center and 179 are feeder stations that takes people for parts of Queens that is extremely dependant on buses to the subway. With 2nd Ave, most people start and end their commutes at that station. Thinking other factors, when the M15 SBS is fully implemented, expect even more people to use that station.You can make it to a train station walking and theres the M8,M9,M14A/D and M21 Suppose you currently live along the FDR Drive and you want to take the subway. What do you do, take the bus that is a block away or walk to 1st Avenue to take the train? I bet you would pick the bus over walking espectially in the winter. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 11:38:40 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 10:26:27 2010. Exactly, because even without the V its far more convenient than many other areas. You're just a selfish crybaby who doesn't want to lose his train. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Feb 11 13:51:40 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 11:38:40 2010. IAWTP! |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Feb 11 14:11:14 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:14:53 2010. No, I was saying that you seem like a joke character, meaning, a username created just to make stir people up or make jokes |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Feb 11 14:14:29 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:14:53 2010. What facts????????????????????????????I have yet to see one (just one standee) on a southbound V train at Broadway-Lafayette - - let alone more than 15 people in each car - - except for the end cars. |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Thu Feb 11 14:22:07 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Feb 11 14:14:29 2010. 33d Street reports he has ridership figures dating back to 1904. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Feb 11 14:37:28 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Union Turnpike on Thu Feb 11 14:22:07 2010. LOL, and what are the numbers from 1904 to 1933?????ZERO!!! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 14:54:46 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Union Turnpike on Thu Feb 11 14:22:07 2010. Which makes his gripe as believible as a US LEGAL TENDER 3 DOLLAR BILL. |
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Posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 18:58:31 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 14:54:46 2010. Actually, annual numbers from 1904 to 2006 are readily available; see here. (Note: you'll need to extract the file, then view it using Microsoft Excel.)my blog |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 19:57:43 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Feb 11 14:11:14 2010. Do you even know why I chose "33rd Street" as my username? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 11 20:04:59 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 19:57:43 2010. Just to stir people up and/or make jokes? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 20:15:42 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 19:57:43 2010. that's where you made the most money turning tricks back in the day..and your using it as a fond memory? |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 20:18:02 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 11 20:04:59 2010. If that's all you're going to say, then have it your way. To be honest, I could care less what people perceive me as.To those who have disagreed with me about the M-V combo, have it your way. All this discussion did was make me sleepy. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 20:18:50 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 18:58:31 2010. I don't like excel..LOL....!kidding dude. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 11 20:28:29 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Union Turnpike on Thu Feb 11 14:22:07 2010. But the IND didn't even exist then. |
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Posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 20:32:42 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 20:18:50 2010. Heh :) |
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Posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 20:34:16 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 11 20:28:29 2010. But the IND didn't even exist then.But the IRT did! my blog |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 20:35:28 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 11:38:40 2010. IAWTP x1000. He's contradicting himself left and right |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 11 20:41:02 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 20:34:16 2010. heh, as well as the 2nd Av el, i believe. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 11 20:41:48 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 20:18:50 2010. excel is fun :)though bad thing is, get one formula wrong and it f's everything up :( |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 20:43:00 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 20:18:02 2010. You mean to say you were AWAKE THE WHOLE TIME?Could have fooled me....;0) |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Thu Feb 11 20:55:01 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 11 20:41:02 2010. And the Second Avenue El actually used First Avenue and Allen Street between 23d Street and Chatham Square.I think passengers had to pay another nickle since the Second Avenue El at 14th Street was I.R.T. and the Fourteenth Street-Canarsie Line at First Avenue was B.M.T.. Possibly a paper transfer was established at Third Avenue - 14th Street after unification as the Third Avenue El ran until May 12, 1955. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 20:58:03 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 10:34:22 2010. I love how you tried to disregard me stating the fact Queens people are far more reliant on buses to get to the train than people where you live and then when I compared the terminals all of sudden you want to renege and agree with what I said.And what authority do you have where your allowed to make an idiotic comparsion between the M-V and the J via Brighton but I cant compare the fact that 2nd Av isnt as important as Jamaica 179? Which leads me to state that if JAM-179 is fine with just the F then 2av will be fine with just the F. You are completely missing the fact that people in that area at least have the freaking option to walk to a train. There are also 4 bus routes within a 4block radius of each other that all stop at trains. I have 2 buses in a 4 block radius to me and 1 of them runs twice an hour and doesnt even hit a subway stop, the other is a 45 min ride to the E. Your literally being selfish because even with no V at 2 Av you'll still have a 1 seat ride to Midtown wheres M riders dont. Please stop acting like East Village is in the middle of nowhere. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 22:43:10 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 20:58:03 2010. Your literally being selfish because even with no V at 2 Av you'll still have a 1 seat ride to Midtown wheres M riders dont.Selfish my ass. Try telling that the people that use 2nd Avenue on on a daily basis. If those M riders wanted direct Midtown service then there is one option and its called move the fuck out. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 22:46:53 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 20:35:28 2010. He's contradicting himself left and rightHuh? Where did I do such thing? |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 22:48:05 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 11:38:40 2010. Crybaby? Selfish? What the fuck are you talking about? |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 12 00:26:10 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 22:43:10 2010. Those second avenue riders who are REALLY concerned about that can always walk over a few blocks to Broadway-Lafayette, where the B/D/F/V all stop and you can get the uptown 6 at Bleecker if you are going uptown on the east side.Point is, at least you have that option, whereas on the upper east side (my old stomping grounds), try telling that to those in the most densely populated part of that where they currently only have the 6 train (anywhere from 72nd to about 82nd street), unless they want to walk to 63rd and Lex to get the F. That won't change until the SAS begins serving second avenue. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 12 00:36:16 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 22:43:10 2010. Whats good advice for them..is good advice for YOU...You want better subway service? Move closer to a station. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 12 00:40:06 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 12 00:26:10 2010. I do feel the pain that Lexington Avenue riders endure on a daily basis. I was one of them during my tenure at Norman Thomas High School.Those second avenue riders who are REALLY concerned about that can always walk over a few blocks to Broadway-Lafayette, where the B/D/F/V all stop and you can get the uptown 6 at Bleecker if you are going uptown on the east side. Second Avenue & Broadway-Lafayette aren't that close as you may seem. The future transfer to the uptown 6 benefits not just the East Village but neighborhoods such as Park Slope, Ridgewood, Middle Village, and Bed-Stuy. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Feb 12 07:18:15 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Eric B on Thu Feb 11 10:20:09 2010. GOOD post. I agree with this point...Living anywhere in Manhattan would be a privilege. It's still very central. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 12 08:41:09 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 3 14:00:27 2010. And this became a serious thread because of that. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 12 08:47:05 2010, in response to , posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Feb 3 15:50:54 2010. Here is a link to the unreadable post: |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Feb 12 12:34:29 2010, in response to Re: Junius-Livonia transfer, posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 10 11:23:21 2010. Bring the entire station into compliance? I noticed that the new South Ferry/Whitehall complex is ADA compliant only for South Ferry itself. Whitehall St. is still not wheelchair accessible. Also, the Franklin Av/Botanic Gdn complex (1998) is not ADA compliant at all. Is this recent legislation?Bob |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 12 14:38:40 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 18:58:31 2010. I have Excel on my MAC and I got a message that there is not enough memory. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 12 16:43:40 2010, in response to Unreadable post, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 12 08:47:05 2010. There's a teeny tiny underline next to the comma back there just to the left of the comma. I raised a toast to the poster when it was done. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 18:25:09 2010, in response to Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Chipper10 on Tue Feb 2 20:07:34 2010. Probably will make a new thread next time he's got something to say. |
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Re: R32 Over the Willy B |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Fri Feb 12 21:08:54 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Eric B on Thu Feb 11 10:20:09 2010. I don't Give a shit if this happens or Not, I just Want to Ride an R32 Over the Willy B (J),(Z) or (V).And The New (V) won't be 100% R160's, It would use some R32's as well. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Feb 12 21:21:27 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by R32_3671 on Fri Feb 12 21:08:54 2010. I think you are making uncertain assumptions here. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 22:14:44 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by R30A on Fri Feb 12 21:21:27 2010. I agree. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Feb 13 16:08:01 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by R32_3671 on Fri Feb 12 21:08:54 2010. Unless the MTA wants to reassign some R-32s to the J, The new V will probably have to have some R-32s in the mix. It might actually go that way since the MTA will probably want to throw the QB riders a bone by making the extended line all R-160s in exchange for using only 8 X 60 foot car consists. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Feb 15 23:17:48 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by randyo on Sat Feb 13 16:08:01 2010. I have thought that might be the case as well. I would think the entire V line would be all R160s. Plus should there be any issues like at 53rd-Lex, they can always change the sign at the touch of the screen vs. manually changing all the signs on an R32.I think it would make more sense to have R32s on the J as the south terminals only changes late at night. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Feb 16 12:43:31 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Feb 15 23:17:48 2010. Actually, the "south" terminal only changes on weekends. By the way, if the M/V combo is implemented, there will no longer be a through Eastern to Southern service so the J could and should be changed to NORTHBOUND towards Broad St and SOUTHBOUND towards Jamaica which is what it always was before Chrystie and how the tracks are numbered also. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 16 22:13:31 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by randyo on Tue Feb 16 12:43:31 2010. North for Broad St? Interesting. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 16 23:49:35 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by randyo on Tue Feb 16 12:43:31 2010. Didn't the R-16s pre-Chrystie have JAMAICA-168 ST on the north roll? Years ago, I saw a pic taken of the sign on the train my grandfather was driving, and I'm pretty sure it was:JAMAICA-168 ST BROAD STREET 15 | JAMAICA LOCAL Of course, sign north and railroad north don't always necessarily agree. (BTW, no idea where the pic is now, last time I saw it was in 1976, when my mom and I were packing up my grandmother's things after she died. It's either in a box in storage, or gone forever, after moving from NYC to LA and then here to So. Florida). |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 17 07:58:46 2010, in response to Re: R32 Over the Willy B, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 16 23:49:35 2010. If by "north" you're referring to the top side sign, then yes, the R-16s did indeed have a Jamaica-168th St. sign in that curtain. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 17 23:26:19 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Feb 11 18:58:31 2010. One hell of a spreadsheet! |
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Re: G.O.s that could be done on weekends with the M/V combo |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 19 07:05:52 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 11 14:54:46 2010. It does, doesn't it?Anyway, one new thought assuming the M/V combo does go through. If such doesn't become 19/7 right away, one thing that could be done when the V would normally be running like the current M shuttle does would be when the C either would not be running at all or would not be running to Brooklyn is this: The V runs the weekday route in Brooklyn to Broadway-Lafayette, then replaces the C between West 4th and either 145th or 168th. This can also be done on weekends where the E would otherwise be terminating at 2nd Avenue, with EITHER the V replacing the E on those weekends and the V simply operating via 8th Avenue instead of 6th (unless the G.O. required a re-route to 6th Avenue) OR the E replacing the V along the V shuttle route (and the E using the V's cars on those weekends). |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Feb 24 22:54:33 2010, in response to Re: Chipper10 fails to respond again., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 18:25:09 2010. Who knows, he just might be the most successful troll in SubChat history. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 25 22:38:33 2010, in response to Re: Chipper10 fails to respond again., posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Feb 24 22:54:33 2010. Yet some of the biggest threads (by number of posts) in SubChat history were started by him. |
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