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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009 Federal oversight of subways proposedRed Line crash spurred safety plan Obama administration to push for Congress to change law By Joe Stephens and Lena H. Sun Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, November 15, 2009 Story mentioned in fourth from last paragraph in above article: Metro barred safety checks on tracks, data show Workers Deaths At Issue Agency disputes inspectors' account By Joe Stephens and Lena H. Sun Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, November 9, 2009 John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Nov 15 12:26:30 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. about time to give it to FRA. As to Metro barring 'outsiders' NOT ACCEPTABLE! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Nov 15 12:37:07 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Nov 15 12:26:30 2009. I love it - government can't regulate transit systems that government owns.... |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Nov 15 14:13:37 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. This is a shock. I didn't realize he had so many friends that he doesn't have the ability to stop creating agencies in return for payoffs. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun Nov 15 14:22:20 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. Anything self-propelled and running on rails should be FRA class. It's silly to allow transit cars to be exempt. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Nov 15 14:28:48 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by R42 4787 on Sun Nov 15 14:22:20 2009. Many local authorities feel they should be exempt because they do not cross state lines, which is just plain wrong. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 15 14:30:00 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by R42 4787 on Sun Nov 15 14:22:20 2009. Correct, lets be fair, the FAA controls all airplanes, not just commercial right ?? no sepperate rules for light non comercial planes.So why should transit be excluded from FRA control, no rules, no guidelines, no standards. |
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Posted by MGL on Sun Nov 15 14:37:13 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. It's about time!I hope it passes, and those agencies that don't shape up, will have there system safety handled for them. It's to bad so many people had to die over the same number of years. Maybe soon, NYCT employees will NOT be encouraged to respond to active trackways alone, and without an absolute block in place. Michael |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Nov 15 15:37:23 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by MGL on Sun Nov 15 14:37:13 2009. They just need a flagman. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 16:17:59 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. I'm for it just to see how the MTA tries to cook their books with someone watching. :) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 15 16:24:00 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 16:17:59 2009. Hey, your better half is over on the other board launching counterbattery fire in the face of withering assaults. It's pretty good. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 16:27:36 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 15 16:24:00 2009. Oh noes! Now everyone's going to figure out how I ended up being "centrist" compared to Glenn Beck. :)Haven't gotten over there yet, gotta clean off my boots after stepping in THIS board. Hope there's enough bleach! Heh. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 16:53:06 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 16:17:59 2009. Why would the Obama administration and his assorted czars worry about cooked or crooked books? They are too busy hiding their own.ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 15 17:03:04 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 16:53:06 2009. Hmm some accusation, only books their trying to straighten out are the former administration's road to a financialy ruined USA. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 17:16:32 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 16:53:06 2009. What are you talking about? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:00:35 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 15 17:03:04 2009. Did you hear about all of the tax cheats that he appointed as czars?No? Too bad. You ought to pay more attention to talk radio. ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 15 18:02:15 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:00:35 2009. Could you take this right wing neo crap to non-rail board. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Nov 15 18:25:35 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. Some possible side effects of Federal oversight of local transit systems might be bringing the maximum hours operating employees are permitted to work in line with those on commuter railroads. In NY State, it might also remove the NYCT employees from Taylor law penalties since the Feds have ruled that N-N and LIRR employees are not subject to the Taylor Law but rather the Federal Railway Labor Act. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:28:38 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 17:16:32 2009. The fact that Obama surrounds himself with leftists and tax cheats and then calls them Czars.Just Google [ "Obama's Czars" + "Tax Cheats" ] The list is as endless as the left is mindless. ROAR |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:01:41 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Nov 15 14:28:48 2009. There's also the matter of no interchange with the general railway network. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:03:52 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 16:27:36 2009. Now everyone's going to figure out how I ended up being "centrist" compared to Glenn BeckYou're never centrist on any issue. Knock it off . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:04:57 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 16:53:06 2009. You're talking to a hardened leftist. Corruption at the top is OK from his perspective, so long as the ideology's in line with Karl's . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:05:45 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by MGL on Sun Nov 15 14:37:13 2009. It's about timeAbout time for bigger government and more federal centralization . . . ? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:06:19 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. So we're going to have Amtrak Subway in NYC . . . ? Hudson-Bergen Amtrak Light Rail in NJ? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 19:08:45 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:03:52 2009. Heh. Oh stoppit ... I can see the drool from here at your chances of becoming a choochoo czar. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 15 19:09:28 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. The FRA doesn't seem to be able to stop Metrolink trains from crashing. I don't see them having any better luck with WMATA or light rail in places like LA and Houston. Still it does make sense to have one standard for safe practice and one group overseeing it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 19:10:24 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:04:57 2009. But of course! Harpo wouldn't have it any other way!
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 19:12:13 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:06:19 2009. See it ... be it ... RIDE it! :)
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 15 19:15:42 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. Bozobamanable wants to micromanage everybody and everything. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 15 19:17:31 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:28:38 2009. With B. O. being a socialist, I'm surpeised he's not calling them comrades. |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Sun Nov 15 19:48:43 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 19:01:41 2009. And something about states rights. Not like those exist anymore anyway. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:20:50 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:00:35 2009. Now I see what monks do in their spare time. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:22:34 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:28:38 2009. Do you not know that term Czar is a journalistic shorthand that started many Presidents ago? It has nothing to do with Obama. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:24:03 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 18:28:38 2009. Do you not know that term Czar is a journalistic shorthand that started many Presidents ago? It has nothing to do with Obama.You actually believe anything Michelle Malkin says? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:25:59 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. Too bad even technical rail-related issues can't be debated on the merits without resort to political name-calling. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 15 20:35:52 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:25:59 2009. Well that is bound to happen. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 20:37:41 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 19:12:13 2009. Just don't underfund it . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 20:39:51 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 15 19:09:28 2009. You another one for centralization? This move doesn't have anything to do with safety practices. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 15 20:45:11 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 20:39:51 2009. So they are being less than truthful?I'd like to see more federal involvement, but less than what is being proposed. The federal government should set guidelines and local agencies should enforce those rules under federal oversight. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 15 20:47:54 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 15 20:45:11 2009. The federal government should set guidelinesThey tried that back in 1950. Result was intercity passenger service losing about 20 mph in average speeds . . . |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 21:11:29 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Nov 15 12:26:30 2009. about time to give it to FRA.I don’t thing that is their ultimate plan. If they were to do so, the FRA would have to draft a different set of safety standards specifically tailored to non common carrier rail transit properties. I think what Obama administration wants to do is setup a separate agency within USDOT that would have oversight and regulatory authority over public transit enterprises that operate rail passenger service on non common carrier tracks. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 21:20:08 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 21:11:29 2009. It actually would make some sense given that federal money is taking on more and more of the funding for the systems ... |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 21:23:40 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by BMTLines on Sun Nov 15 12:37:07 2009. I love it - government can't regulate transit systems that government owns....I seem, government at the state and local level pays lip service to the agencies charged to do that regulating. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by error46146 on Sun Nov 15 21:25:30 2009, in response to Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 12:03:36 2009. NO!! |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Nov 15 21:27:37 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by error46146 on Sun Nov 15 21:25:30 2009. I highly agree with this post! |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Nov 15 21:29:42 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by MGL on Sun Nov 15 14:37:13 2009. The only reason this has become an issue is because the congressional delegation that represents the Washington DC area is pressing the issue. The 06 22 2009 Red line wreck happen to close for comfort.Senator Barbara Mikulski has been grumbling for some time about that fact that the Tri-State Oversight Committee has virtually no regulatory authority over WMATA. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 21:55:04 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:22:34 2009. Yes, as a matter of fact I do know this. But he has surrounded himself with 100s of them, pays them a salary, and really has not demonstrated himself a good judge of character or ability in his appointments.ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 15 21:58:36 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 21:55:04 2009. Lets get back to Halliburton administration of Dick Chenney ;-) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 22:01:43 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 15 20:24:03 2009. Actually, I never listen to her. I just goggled the czars and cheats, and her page looked like it had the information I was looking for.But my post was in answer to a question as to where I got my information or if I was making it up. I get *my* information from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Mark Levin. If you want to poke hole in the thinking of the left, these are good sources, if you want to poke holes in the thinking of the right NYT, Time, Newsweek, msnbc and CNN are good places to start. Those are far more biased than Fox, and this I will say about Rush, I will give you the left's side of the argument before he knocks it down. ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 15 22:08:54 2009, in response to Re: Obama administration proposing federal oversight of subways and light rail, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 15 22:01:43 2009. Asking Rush to explain the left is like asking Olog to explain the Catechism. That all said though, doesn't belong on this side of the tracks. |
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