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Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009

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I previously had plans to go visit Germany in a week long vacation, but sadly, due to the passing of my father, I had to cancel those plans. At some point during the summer, I'd like to go somewhere, but for a brief (and inexpensive) weekend visit (leave Friday morning, return Sunday night) to a city with something resembling a mass transit system, and an urban area worth exploring and possibly photographing.

Thus, given the constraints, does anybody have a good idea of where I could go within the US and Canada that could reasonably distract me?

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 17:56:54 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Philadelphia.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 17:58:03 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Very sorry to hear about your father.

Montreal is cool if you haven't been there.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 17:58:29 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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San Francisco or Norwalk.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by SilverFox on Fri Jul 3 18:18:33 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Chicago
Miami
San Francisco
Boston
Seattle
Toronto


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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 18:23:07 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by SilverFox on Fri Jul 3 18:18:33 2009.

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SF and probably Seattle would be hard to do in a weekend and SF isn't exactly inexpensive. It's probably only a little cheaper and quicker than his canceled Germany trip.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Van Nostrand on Fri Jul 3 18:30:12 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 17:58:03 2009.

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I'll second Montreal. Beautiful Metro stations, entirely underground, served by little rubber-tired trains.

Fansite.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by ALANTRAIN on Fri Jul 3 18:51:25 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 18:23:07 2009.

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Chicago- More trains per mile than anywhere else. If [possible, take the Amtrak Cardinal one way, it's a great train ride( slow but great). It doesn't run every day so you would need to check.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 18:53:01 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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New York, if you're not from here.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 18:54:51 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 17:58:29 2009.

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Ok, ok, serious answer. Given your time constraints, either Boston or Montreal.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 18:57:34 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 18:53:01 2009.

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I can't believe that you don't know. I know lots about him just from reading his posts.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 3 19:01:08 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Chicago or Philadelphia.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 19:01:26 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Chicago. Make sure you also visit the Illinois Railway Museum and the Fox River Trolley Museum. Both are about one hour west of Chicago.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 19:16:28 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 18:57:34 2009.

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I was speaking in general. New York is the biggest railroad haven in the country. It's the core of Amtrak, it has the biggest subway system in the country and 3 of the largest commuter railroads. It would take a month for a tourist to see it all. If you're not from NYC, NYC would be the #1 destination for a railfan tourist.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 19:20:13 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 19:16:28 2009.

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Chicago is the core of Amtrak, not here!

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 19:20:55 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 19:20:13 2009.

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Rider wise? No way.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Zman179 on Fri Jul 3 19:23:34 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 19:20:55 2009.

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Who goes to railfan riders? You want to look for Amtraks and freights, then Chicago's the joint.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 19:26:31 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 3 19:20:55 2009.

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More trains to more places in Chicago and they have a "real" train station rather than this poor excuse for a (Penn) station we have!

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 19:45:44 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Zman179 on Fri Jul 3 19:23:34 2009.

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Freights? Meh. Not my thing I guess.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by SilverFox on Fri Jul 3 19:56:53 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 18:23:07 2009.

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Sorry. I didn't read the "weekend" and "inexpensive" parts of the thread.


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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 3 20:06:54 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Coney Island.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jul 3 20:16:02 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 17:56:54 2009.

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Incorrect statement. Chicago.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 20:18:45 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jul 3 20:16:02 2009.

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Why?

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 20:26:27 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 18:54:51 2009.

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Given your time constraints, either Boston or Montreal.

Boston is one of those places that seems to fill the "day trip" role for me since it's only 4 hrs away on Regional. Plus, I'd hold off for there until the fall since the Green Line looks better with foliage.

So, Montreal seems to be a reasonable idea, especially since I have family up there (and in neighbouring Ottawa), and it has a subway system that I haven't touched yet.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 3 20:33:16 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 19:20:13 2009.

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Nah; gotta disagree.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 3 20:33:23 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Well, where have you not been? I want to hit Michigan City IN before the NICTD decides to de-interurban it by getting rid of the street running; but if you've seen that already, that would be out.

You been to Philly? They have a bit of everything.

Sorry to hear about your dad. I lost my dad almost six years ago, myself.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 3 20:34:17 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 3 19:45:44 2009.

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Not mine either! This country used to have fast freights too; that would be about the only kind of freight train I'd find interesting.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 3 20:36:30 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Zman179 on Fri Jul 3 19:23:34 2009.

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Nope. Not enough Amtrak. Riders equals trains when it comes to varnish, after all; the fewer riders, the fewer trains to carry 'em.

Freights are boring even on the NEC (a place you'd think would have fast freight, but they move slower on that line than freight trains out west, ironically).

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 20:37:08 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jul 3 20:16:02 2009.

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Correct statement: Philadelphia because he wanted an inexpensive place to go.


There are lots of different varieties of rail and bus operations there.


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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 20:47:07 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 3 20:33:23 2009.

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Well, where have you not been?

If we include the major systems of the United States and Canada...

USA: Chicago, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Denver, Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Los Angeles, San Diego, Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Baltimore, Miami, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo.

Canada: Montreal, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Ken S. on Fri Jul 3 20:54:44 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 20:37:08 2009.

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I agree, I'm headed there on the 18th, booked my Amtrak trains to/from Newark already.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Jul 3 21:01:07 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 20:26:27 2009.

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Bon voyage. It's a city I've never been either even though I speak French. I ended up missing riding the old equipment of AMT Deux-Montagnes line.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jul 3 21:03:58 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 20:37:08 2009.

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I was just messing with you, Bill. Philadelphia is a terrific suggestion because of the variety you mentioned. I know AEM mentioned "within the US/Canada" but I am unsure where AEM lives... I suppose proximity may well be a deciding factor since he only has a couple days.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jul 3 21:03:59 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 3 20:37:08 2009.

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I was just messing with you, Bill. Philadelphia is a terrific suggestion because of the variety you mentioned. I know AEM mentioned "within the US/Canada" but I am unsure where AEM lives... I suppose proximity may well be a deciding factor since he only has a couple days.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 21:26:47 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Jul 3 21:01:07 2009.

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I have not made a decision, but the electrification of the Deux-Montagnes line does make it a bit more appealing...

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by R42 4787 on Fri Jul 3 21:39:27 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by SilverFox on Fri Jul 3 18:18:33 2009.

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I'd add Denver.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 21:43:54 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 3 20:06:54 2009.

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Haha, if you start early you can ride all 4 lines.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 3 21:47:10 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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LION cannot speak for youse guys...

But the LION is going to visit NEW YORK CITY.


ROAR

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jul 3 21:53:38 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Too bad you mentioned transit otherwise I would recommend places like this or this for some REAL train action

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 21:59:24 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by SilverFox on Fri Jul 3 18:18:33 2009.

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Chicago -> Sizable subway system, Metra Electric, and South Shore. The real downside is the summer heat, and I'm wondering if I'll have enough time to railfan and explore the city.

Miami -> Hurricane? Too many pretty people?

San Francisco -> That was so last summer. :-)

Boston -> It falls into the day trip zone...

Seattle -> Well, admittedly the light rail opens up this month, but I'd prefer to do that in conjunction with Portland and Vancouver. Plus, it kinda the time zone differences eat away time.

Toronto -> Great for streetcars, but fugly subway cars unless you like the modern 75ft Brightliner look.

Denver (per R 42 4787) -> Sizable light rail system even with frigging high floors. How are the summers up there, and despite being less dense than say Seattle or Toronto, does it have urban areas worth exploring?

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 22:03:23 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 21:59:24 2009.

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Denver has a dry moderately hot summer. There are over 300 sunny days there so weatherwise it's a winner. Denver is a winner anyway, as far as cities go. I'm sure SteveB can back that up.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 3 22:04:02 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Philadelphia, Boston or Washington DC if you want to spend a weekend.

With a cheap RT airfare ticket, try for San Francisco or LA.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by EBTMikado on Fri Jul 3 22:06:31 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 3 22:04:02 2009.

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I'll toss in my vote for San Francisco.
Spent 6 days in February, didn't get to ride/photograph
all the lines I wanted to.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by EastSideRider on Fri Jul 3 22:29:46 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 3 21:47:10 2009.

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Oh! When you coming around, if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Jul 3 22:59:01 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 20:47:07 2009.

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My deepest sympathies go to you and yours.

Philly strikes me as the great omission there - it's a must do, not too far, and there's plenty to see.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 3 23:11:29 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by EastSideRider on Fri Jul 3 22:29:46 2009.

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My vacation will be between August 4th and 18th. I will fly into Allentown, and stay with my parents in East Stroudsburg. I will ride the Martz Bus into the city three, maybe four times, but will decide what dates these might be only the night before I go. I will not have a computer with me to make plans to meet up with people. Heck, I can't even twitter.

But if you see me, be sure to say hello.



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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Jul 3 23:18:03 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 3 23:11:29 2009.

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I will not have a computer with me

But you will be traveling with lions in tow, right? :)

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 3 23:29:05 2009, in response to Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 17:50:50 2009.

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Go online and get a cheap flight and hotel in San Francisco. Or, try a travel agent. It wi;; be well worth it!

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Jul 4 00:36:35 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 3 21:26:47 2009.

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Well, part of it was re-electried in AC at the occasion of new cars.

Et mes condoléances sincères à vous et toute la famille.

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Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Jul 4 00:46:40 2009, in response to Re: Where Should Railfans Go On Vacation?, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Jul 4 00:36:35 2009.

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Zut! re-electrified.

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