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Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units... |
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Posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Tue May 20 11:26:17 2008, in response to (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by rionOne on Mon May 19 21:10:20 2008. Oh, so that's the so-called R142B unit laying up at Hoyt a few days ago when I was there ... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 20 11:39:31 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon May 19 22:20:24 2008. Yeah, like you do it every day. Please, STFU. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 13:33:51 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 20 11:39:31 2008. You have a BAD attitude, very pessimistic there. I can change out the fiberglass bonnet, and anyone here can. You just have to be positive, you *CAN* do it. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue May 20 13:50:45 2008, in response to (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by rionOne on Mon May 19 21:10:20 2008. I'm surprised the movie company didn't ask for the R-10 with the R-42 front end :) --Mark |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 13:50:57 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 13:33:51 2008. Anyone with a one-ton crane, torque wrench, caulk gun... |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 13:55:36 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 13:50:57 2008. You don't even need a one ton crane for the bonnet. You just need the torque wrench. Shame that the fiberglass bonnets need caulk, which wears away after a while. The old cars with the STEEL bonnets didn't need caulk at all. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 14:07:07 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue May 20 13:50:45 2008. That is a good thing there, the R10s should still be roaring down CPW. SHame. The fiberglass bonet is a bad idea though. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue May 20 14:16:02 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 20 11:13:47 2008. Trevor's explanation doesn't answer the question as to why a train of R62A's would be used in the film instead of an R62 rebuilt to look like an R142. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue May 20 14:16:25 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 20 11:13:47 2008. Trevor's explanation doesn't answer the question as to why a train of R62A's would be used in the film instead of an R62 rebuilt to look like an R142 running with other R142's. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 20 14:21:51 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 11:23:07 2008. Digital signage would do. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:11:59 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 13:55:36 2008. Yeah, the water just leaked into the bodies and caused them to rust from the inside out instead. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:12:56 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 13:55:36 2008. And how much does that end piece weigh? I said '1-ton' for the sake of needing something to hold it and move it. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:15:10 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 14:07:07 2008. By following that logic, we never should have developed the telephone. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:28:28 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:11:59 2008. No, it didn't leak in, as long as there was proper maintanenc. Both type of ends need maintanence, jeeze. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:29:59 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:15:10 2008. No, not by "that logic", we should still have wuality railcars, doesn't mean we shouldn't develope new things. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue May 20 16:58:02 2008, in response to (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by rionOne on Mon May 19 21:10:20 2008. What in the wacky wide world of sports is that? A fake R142A.I think it will be retrofitted back into R62A 2079 when things are all done for. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:59:15 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:28:28 2008. Guess what is used to keep water out of crevices? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 17:00:26 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:29:59 2008. Oh, so we should have stuck with analog switching instead of digital? Modems instead of DSL? Aluminum wiring? Leaded gasoline? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 17:06:35 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 16:59:15 2008. caulk, but not as much is needed with a high quality stainless construction, which expands with the rest of the body, unlike fiberglass. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 17:08:38 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 17:00:26 2008. No, where necessary, use the newer stuff. I still use a phone modem, by the way, and have no problems. Copper is just a better conductor, it wasn't an invention, you can still buy aluminum wiring, amd it is used for computers and all within. Unleaded is just cleaner, guy these are good things. |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue May 20 20:46:15 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 11:18:36 2008. I saw this a couple weeks ago in CIY shops, and realized the sign was phony, as the car was not hooked up to power, but the sign looked like it was dimly on. (It was just reflecting the light from the area).The bonnet looked like crudely welded metal to me, but I didn't examine it that closely. (I guress it could have been painted with metalic spray). I too find it funny they try to be realistic now by making it look like a 142, and not just usung 62's, when they're doing filming in a whole bunch of places the 6 doesn't run. (Unless, as someone wondered; the movie will not be just about the 6). |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 20:54:27 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Eric B on Tue May 20 20:46:15 2008. It isn't much work to convert the exterior of one car like that. I would assume that that is a spare R142 bonet, or a custom made one, not of metal. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Tue May 20 21:35:17 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 11:23:07 2008. It would not be too hard to put in signs that tell you the time and nxy station like the R142, 143, and 160 cars have that face each other in the middle of the car. In Albany the CDTA bought new buses with digital signs and automated anouncements, the also retro fitted all their older buses with the signs too. I would not be too hard to do. |
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Posted by Midnight Rider on Tue May 20 21:56:25 2008, in response to (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by rionOne on Mon May 19 21:10:20 2008. What in the name of Buddha is that? An R62A, re-done as an R142A, with an R160B number?! This movie better be good! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 20 22:06:31 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Phil D. on Mon May 19 21:57:01 2008. That shouldn't make any difference. When the original Pelham 123 was shot, the 6 fleet consisted of R-17s, 26s and 28s yet the movie train was cpmposed of R-22s which seldom if ever ran on the Pelham Line (I do recall seing one in the late 1950s but I don't recall seeing any after that). Another inconsistency is that if the movie makers are going to want to be THAT accurate, then the title of the movie needs to be changed to "The Taking of Pelham 1323" since NYCT scheduling and operations now use the 24 hour (or military) clock instead of the old 12 hour AM/PM clock in use at the time of the original movie. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue May 20 23:36:29 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Tue May 20 21:35:17 2008. On the MBTA's Green Line in Boston. It looks like they retrofitted an automated announcements and electronic signs displaying the next station on their Type 7's. I could be wrong, but they appeared to be retrofitted and are also found on the Type 8's. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 23:39:42 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue May 20 23:36:29 2008. I recently learned that some R38s were fitted with AC propulsion for a short period, so such modifications are possible, maybe tests of new systems. Surprisingly, some of the oldest PATH cars were fitted with LED destination signs for no reason as usual, maybe a test, but nonetheless, they were there. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue May 20 23:45:19 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Eric B on Tue May 20 20:46:15 2008. It may not be. There are a lot of assumptions that it will follow the same plot, but based on the amount of places taken and trains used (R-160s signed for the Q and Roosevelt Ave mockup to name a few) I have a feeling it will be very different. It can be different and still use the same name. Just look at the last Pink Panther which was absolutely nothing like any of the originals and was not even aimed for the same audience. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 21 00:43:40 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 17:06:35 2008. LOL! |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 21 00:49:13 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue May 20 11:23:07 2008. It has been mentioned that it would be hard to do this on R68/62 cars, since they did not come delivered with the necessary electrical equipment in their coupling (R44s and 46s always had signs that could be controlled from the cab, even before the signs were digital.) |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 21 00:51:55 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by randyo on Tue May 20 22:06:31 2008. The difference being that most people cannot readily tell the difference between R26s and R22s, while it is easy to spot the differences between R62s and R142s. I think the directors wanted to make this as real to the average new yorker as possible. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 21 01:00:49 2008, in response to (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by rionOne on Mon May 19 21:10:20 2008. Nice pictures.Has anyone documented what's going on on the northbound platform? They've built a set that looks like a rehabbed bronx el station. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 05:34:12 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 13:33:51 2008. STFU |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 05:37:51 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 17:08:38 2008. >>>>>I still use a phone modem, by the way, and have no problems. <<<<You might not have problems with your modem. But, you have problems...trust me |
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Posted by metropod on Wed May 21 06:45:21 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 23:39:42 2008. LEDs are more efficent that incandesent bulbs, and last a hell of a lot longer. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 08:17:39 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 20:54:27 2008. If it's so easy why not just cobble one up for us? |
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Posted by South Ferry on Wed May 21 12:08:52 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by South Ferry on Tue May 20 02:18:20 2008. hokay! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed May 21 19:42:14 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by randyo on Tue May 20 22:06:31 2008. UNLESS they made this movie during the early morning hours then. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 22 03:08:55 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed May 21 19:42:14 2008. mkay but WHAT BANK is open -THAT- early??? |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu May 22 17:42:32 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Phil D. on Tue May 20 07:51:44 2008. But you had a heart attack.... |
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Posted by Phil D. on Thu May 22 17:43:40 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu May 22 17:42:32 2008. Uh, It was a joke. |
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Posted by Phil D. on Thu May 22 17:44:36 2008, in response to Re: (PHOTO) The Arrival of the first R142B Single Units..., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 20 11:12:49 2008. You are the one who need a a life :) Subchat is not the place to spend all of your free time. |
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