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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:11:09 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 16 17:06:11 2008. He must get targeted based on the way he looks or the way he acts. I know that doesn't make it right, but maybe there's something he could change to make it easier on himself. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 21:18:41 2008, in response to You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 14:49:03 2008. What's for certain is that for some or a variety of reasons, Nilet is getting noticed much more frequently than others here. I can't explain why that's the case, if one accepts his accounts as true, but it's definitely the case. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:35:23 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 21:18:41 2008. The reason why was said a long time ago unless he's changed. I've never met him, but I trust the assessment from Fred G from the Philly mid-Winter trip a couple of winters ago. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 16 21:36:56 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:35:23 2008. easy i wonder if it is how he [ l00ks ]or his style of clothing etc... etc.. ? |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:40:46 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 16 21:36:56 2008. His picture has been posted many times. You can find him in the RFW on most any fan trip thread. He has long hair and by his own account very long fingernails. I have no idea what cops look for, but whatever it is he's got it. Plus there have been some accounts that he is unknowingly obtrusive. I mean no offense by that, but that's what has been posted. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 16 21:43:59 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 17:31:13 2008. Mouthing Off will be thrown out by a judge. The officer can be reprimanded.ROAR |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 21:44:11 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:35:23 2008. Well, I'll take that assessment on too, but this has gotten to a point where he's unfortunately like a magnet for police attention.But my point is that sometimes, one accommodates if he wants to go on. The late Thurgood Marshall told a story about when he was with NAACP when he traveled to a particularly small town where the sheriff informed him, in a 'genteel' but pointed way, 'Just so that you know, no nigger has ever made it through a night in this town alive.' Marshall explained that he, therefore, took his constitutional rights with him to the next town, where he slept comfortably. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:47:22 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 21:44:11 2008. I'm sure that Nilet videotaping the cops when they approach him doesn't go over real well. It's probably downhill from there. |
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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter. |
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Posted by error46146 on Fri May 16 21:53:08 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 20:16:15 2008. you can post longer videos on google though, i've seen videos on google that are up to 2 hours long |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri May 16 21:54:10 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 20:16:15 2008. Have you tried myspacetv.com? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 16 21:55:26 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 21:44:11 2008. Yes - much like we are all shocked when a woman is murdered by an ex-boyfriend or and estranged husband and we are shocked and can't understand how this happened because she has "AN ORDER OF PROTECTION"..... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 16 22:05:46 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:40:46 2008. maybe its his ''long hair''?? my guess !! ok ........ ! |
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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri May 16 22:11:05 2008, in response to ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Thu May 15 15:50:29 2008. Are you dreaming or did this really happen? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:12:34 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by 33rd Street on Fri May 16 22:11:05 2008. You've been paying too much attention to Train Dude! :DI'll get the video up once I figure out where to host it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:13:14 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:12:34 2008. ...and assuming my lawyers give the OK, although I don't see why it should be a big deal. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:14:18 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Fri May 16 21:03:19 2008. Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 16 22:20:51 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:11:09 2008. The LION has one of his famous bookmarks laminated, and he hangs it from his neck as if it were a pass of some sort. I am seldom questioned, and it does look kinda official even if all it says on it is "Broadway Lion"
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 22:22:04 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 16 22:20:51 2008. lol. Didn't you also get one of those BNSF ID cards? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 16 22:26:59 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 22:22:04 2008. Yes, but that would mount to a hill of beans on NYCT.ROAR |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 22:27:51 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 16 21:55:26 2008. Yep, alas - flimsy pieces of paper don't hold up well against blunt or sharp objects or speeding bullets. Doing what she can to avoid the problem in the first place is always the thing to count on. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri May 16 22:27:59 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:12:34 2008. Just checking. This is what your second, third, fourth time you were involoved in a police encounter. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 16 23:27:26 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by 33rd Street on Fri May 16 22:27:59 2008. CORRECTION........Second, third, forth alleged time he was involoved in a police encounter. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 23:30:53 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Fri May 16 23:27:26 2008. The first one (or was it 2nd?) was observed by several subchatters. I believe that this is happening to him. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 00:27:47 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Easy on Fri May 16 23:30:53 2008. Then I'd have to believe that he's deliberately provoking the incidents. Career criminals interact less with the police than he does. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat May 17 00:51:06 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 00:27:47 2008. There are just too many incidents of police officers telling people to stop taking pictures in the subway. Most people reluctantly obey. They may or may not post about it on Flickr or the other photo sites - complaining about how they missed the shot of a lifetime or how the cop threatened them - believe me the stories are there and it is happening. But because the photographer backed off the cop got to enjoy his power trip and doesn't pursue it further.OTOH Nilet seems to stand up for his rights, tries to argue constitutional law with the cops, and demands names and badge numbers. So you might say he is being punished for being assertive. The fact is that the cops should not be telling anyone to stop taking pictures. They can question the photographer but they should never stop anyone from engaging in a LEGAL activity. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 17 01:20:24 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 00:27:47 2008. proof-- proff ?? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat May 17 08:14:45 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by BMTLines on Sat May 17 00:51:06 2008. Well if the person voluntarily stops doing something that violates regulations (for example taking video without a permit) why would the cops want to issue a summons? Issuing a summons in that case would not have any deterrent effect because the person knows that no matter if they stop or not they will still get a summons |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat May 17 09:01:50 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by mtk52983 on Sat May 17 08:14:45 2008. Well if the person voluntarily stops doing something that violates regulations (for example taking video without a permit) why would the cops want to issue a summons?The problem is that taking video without a permit does NOT violate regulations, so why should anyone be forced to stop? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 09:09:18 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:14:18 2008. Nilet you ever think about it, that these encounters with police(that no one else has) will at one time show up, while you put in for jobs ???Todays back ground checks will show way more than that you want companies to know, and the results are they take better candidates. Your way of provoking police will at one time backfire on you. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 09:11:21 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 09:09:18 2008. Dutch, I know the guy and I dont' think he's going out of his way to provoke the cops.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 09:16:35 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 09:11:21 2008. Fred just to many incidents to be coincidental, I never have trouble, neither do many others here. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 09:21:46 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 09:16:35 2008. Yes, I agree it does look fishy. Perhaps it's in his approach with the cops upon being questioned. I don't know, but I know him enough to know he's not a troublemaker by nature.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat May 17 10:07:33 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 09:21:46 2008. Or maybe the co s take advantage of Adam because of the way he looks?Maybe Adam can make some adjustements in his personal appearance, then the cops will stop acting like assholes in dealing with him. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 10:26:15 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 16 17:59:42 2008. Who do I go to for perjury? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 10:28:24 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 22:12:34 2008. Crud. Even if I had somewhere to host it, it's not going up today. iMovie is oh-so-helpfully informing me that it will take over 3 hours just to import the video before I can even start editing! |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 17 11:03:50 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 09:09:18 2008. I doubt that tickets like that would show up on a background check, especially if he fights it and wins. My "unruly conduct" ticket that was dismissed has never shown up on any of my background checks (knock on wood). Or hell, maybe it has and no one said anything. Who the hell knows what shows up on your background check anyway? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat May 17 11:25:54 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Easy on Sat May 17 11:03:50 2008. Background checks are becoming increasingly sophisticated, especially with the proliferation of electronic databases that are surveyed by computers whose PDP abilities increase with each passing month and compiled into still more massive databases. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 11:57:40 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat May 17 10:07:33 2008. Yes. His appearance will have a much greater impact on a perspective employer than anything that a background check might show.Of course an appearance is something that you *can* change, the information on a background check is beyond your control. Has he ever been fingerprinted. THAT will stick with you these days. I was fingerprinted when I joined the Navy, but that was in the OLD days before computerized fingerprint data bases. Today, being printed generates a record, that is there even if there is nothing on it. ******************* Now for the shaggy dog story. Before I went into the Navy, I always wore a crew cut. In boot camp they could find precious little to cut off. When I got out of the Navy it was the 1970s man, and to be hip, I grew long hair down to my shoulders. (GACK that was *ugly*) I applied for a job with Good Humor selling Ice Cream. The district manager said "Not with that hairdo." I said that I would get it cut, and he said cut it if you want, but I will not guarantee that I'll give you a job. I cam back with a close crew cut (the barber must have been delighted to see me) and he gave me the job on the spot. First Impressions are the most important. Botch that and there will not be a chance for a second impression. ROAR |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 11:59:52 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 11:57:40 2008. Sorry, LION. The |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 12:00:23 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by trainsarefun on Sat May 17 11:25:54 2008. Something that Heinrich Himmler or Joseph Stalin would have wet their pants to get hold of.ROARING |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat May 17 12:13:31 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 12:00:23 2008. No joke.I forget which Scandinavian country that was invaded and occupied by the Nazis it was, but they had extensive demographic information collected on some sort of punch-cards on the population. The Nazis of course wanted to decode that info, but there were only one or two machines in the country capable of reading the data and producing output, and one or both of those were sabotaged, so catastrophe was averted to that extent. But yes, such databases are susceptible to misuse. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 12:18:47 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 11:59:52 2008. LIONs *like* furry manes. LION has no problem with it.But then, I am not your prospective employer. If the mane does not turn off an employer then it is not likely that this stuff on a background check would either. ROAR |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 17 12:18:56 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by trainsarefun on Sat May 17 11:25:54 2008. I believe it, but I have at least one background check every year and no one has ever said anything. I was worried at first since the LASD commander had said that my name would be added to an FBI list. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 12:21:59 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 11:59:52 2008. But you do see my point, yes.The HAIR attracts the officer's attention more than the camera does. You easily fall into the cop's "profile" as suspicious, then you flit from pillar to post taking pictures of his precious subway layout, and he comes over to check you out. He has an attitude. You have an attitude. They clash, and then we get to hear about another police encounter. What you *ought* to do is to get a job as an undercover officer. Ain't nobody going to twig to that until it is too late for them. ROARING |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 17 13:16:40 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 12:21:59 2008. If a cop does a general overview of a group of people I think that Nilet will stand out. Then if he observes his behavior that will also stand out. Then when he approaches Nilet and Nilet starts videotaping that will also stand out.In summary Nilet, YOU MUST CONFORM!!! ;) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 14:16:28 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 17 01:20:24 2008. You don't need to prove an opinion. That's why I said that "I believe". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 14:29:40 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 09:11:21 2008. Fred, you and Bob V. take some of the nicest train pictures posted anywhere. I would gather that you are both very prolific rail photographers as well. How many encounters have you had with the police over the past year that has risen to this level? I wonder if Bob has had many either. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 17 14:36:33 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 14:29:40 2008. Didn't Bob get detained by the police along with Nilet on the mid-Winter trip? Or was that someone else? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 14:38:39 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Easy on Sat May 17 14:36:33 2008. That was Fred.And Bob's friend. Bob himself escaped. :D |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 14:40:04 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 14:38:39 2008. Also, keep in mind that Bob and Fred (and especially Bob) are "old" when compared to me. Cops are more likely to harass younger people, since we're perceived as being less able to sue or otherwise do something about it. |
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