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Posted by R30A on Fri May 9 07:56:45 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by randyo on Tue May 6 15:07:00 2008. Kick out window. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Fri May 9 20:32:51 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by G1Ravage on Fri May 9 06:35:34 2008. I was thinking more of something like the emergency covers for the BIE cord in the A-division. Do those deter any false BIE's? I don't know, just an idea. I see how allowing passengers to open those doors could be a problem, but I have always thought that there is also a danger in keeping them locked.Problem with those exit gates is that there is no reason not to punch out of fare control. Police stand right by allowing it. I've noticed some stations no longer have working alarms on those gates or very low alarms. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Fri May 9 20:49:25 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R30A on Fri May 9 02:30:50 2008. There is one employee only crossing at the Harrison shop. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 9 21:12:19 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R30A on Fri May 9 07:56:45 2008. That wouldn't help. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 9 21:13:33 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Fri May 9 20:49:25 2008. But since that is for employees only and not for the general public, the rule would not apply. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 9 21:39:09 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Broadway Buffer on Fri May 9 20:32:51 2008. Police stand right by allowing it.Police not only allow it, they do it too. Same with MTA employees. The slow going through HEETs is the major motivation for people to use the gates. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 9 21:49:34 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by randyo on Tue May 6 15:07:00 2008. It is a concern. (Theoretically, I suppose that one can kick out the window and then climb out through the window, but given that NYCT has judged that people don't have enough sense to cross in between cars, the thought that this procedure would be a viable alternative seems implausible). I wonder if operable latches or an operable cross-bar - as is used on railroads - would provide a sufficient barrier to the rider that wanted to cross in a non-emergency situation but would be surmountable barrier in the case of an altercation.And hopefully if the R179 cars end up being 75' long, they will have a design that maybe avoids some of these difficulties with having to lock doors. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 9 22:51:28 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 9 21:49:34 2008. The R-44s and 46s as delivered had an emergency switch coupled with an alarm to allow for emergency passage between cars. Problems arose when students enroute to and from their institutions ofhigher(?) education used them to go from car to car just for the fun of it. These switches even though they remained in place were sealed up under unbreakable metal covers and so the emergency feature was lost. |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 9 23:39:58 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by randyo on Wed May 7 15:09:57 2008. You'd consider them a test car? No more so than the 100 PCCorder for Brooklyn was a demo order. In both cases, the company planned additional orders but the city intervened. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat May 10 17:16:42 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 9 23:39:58 2008. That may be true, but the 100 car PCC streetcar order was able to provide most if not all of the service on the lines to which they were assigned whereas the Bluebirds could not. |
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