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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:51:49 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:50:04 2008. Where did I say anything about structural issues? |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:53:01 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:51:40 2008. So have I.I in fact commuted from one to the other while in high school. Chambers is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:53:08 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:51:49 2008. Stations with structural issues are far worse off than stations with merely cosmetic damage. That would mean the Arher stations are not the worst in the system. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:53:20 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:53:01 2008. No. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:53:56 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:53:08 2008. I was referring to cosmetic issues.Structural issues are a completely different thing. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:53:59 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by WillD on Fri Mar 7 02:49:01 2008. "Hey, it's fine, there are some cool looking elevator installations, I just can't think of any in subway stations."57th St can get one. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Mar 7 02:56:11 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Mar 7 02:45:35 2008. LOL! |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Mar 7 02:57:38 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:51:40 2008. The pictures depict what each station looks like in person, more or less -- camera settings et cetera aside.Besides, you've got the EXIF data for one of the pictures. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:58:43 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:53:20 2008. Another mature, well thought out response from ron.I highly doubt you could find one person who would agree with the statement you are making. Chambers St. is of average brightness (like any other unrebuilt station) while Sutphin is a cave. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:59:54 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Mar 7 02:56:11 2008. What is funny about that? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Mar 7 03:18:08 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R42 4787 on Fri Mar 7 02:42:01 2008. I know that NOW, but at 14, which was 25 years ago I did not know.I did have Brian Cudahy's book that had a track map, but at that age you only imagine what it looks like in your imagination. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Mar 7 04:06:45 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 7 02:33:30 2008. Yes. And some still are.The ones being worked on previously reopened a few months ago, and then they took a few more out of service for rehabilitation. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 7 04:12:02 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:34:01 2008. Yes they do loser. Check G1Ravages response. |
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Posted by subfan on Fri Mar 7 07:33:43 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:53:59 2008. How about putting one in at 76th Street?(ducks & runs for cover...) subfan |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 07:53:49 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by subfan on Fri Mar 7 07:33:43 2008. 76th Street already has one. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Mar 7 08:17:52 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Mar 7 04:06:45 2008. Here's the current list given by NYCT:Elevators Reported Out of Service Elevator # Station Train Line(s) Location EL103 191ST STREET / ST. NICHOLAS 1 STREET TO MEZZ / MEZZ TO PLATFORM EL201 51ST STREET 6,E,V MEZZANINE TO NORTH BOUND PLATFORM EL405 21ST STREET F MEZZANINE TO STREET Escalators Reported Out of Service Escalator # Station Train Line(s) Location ES113 161ST STREET / RIVER AVE B,D LOWER MEZZ TO UPPER MEZZ ES115 145TH STREET / 147 STREET A,B,C,D NORTH BOUND LL PLATFORM TO UPPER MEZZ ES233 34TH STREET / 6 AVENUE B,D,F,V NORTH BOUND PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE ES236 34TH STREET / 6 AVENUE B,D,F,V SOUTH BOUND PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE ES238 7TH AVENUE B,D,E SOUTH BOUND PLATFORM TO MEZZ ES243 LEXINGTON AVE E,V CENTER ISLAND PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE ES412 ROOSEVELT ISLAND F UPPER MEZZANINE TO STREET ES415 ROOSEVELT ISLAND F LOWER MEZZ TO UPPER MEZZ ES417 ROOSEVELT ISLAND F NORTH BOUND PLATFORM TO LOWER MEZZ ES420 ROOSEVELT ISLAND F SOUTH BOUND PLATFORM TO LOWER MEZZ ES430 VAN WYCK E MEZZANINE TO STREET ES431 VAN WYCK E MEZZANINE TO STREET ES435 SUTPHIN BLVD E,J,Z CENTER ISLAND UPPER PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE ES438 PARSONS BLVD E,J,Z MEZZANINE TO STREET ES443 PARSONS BLVD E,J,Z CENTER ISLAND UPPER PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE ES444 PARSONS BLVD E,J,Z CENTER ISLAND UPPER PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE ES447 PARSONS BLVD E,J,Z PLATFORM TO MEZZANINE |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 08:19:36 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Mar 7 08:17:52 2008. heh, the 2 at 34th Street are BRAND NEW and been in service for less than 3 months, disgraceful. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 7 08:29:41 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by WillD on Fri Mar 7 02:39:03 2008. Since when are elevators aesthetically pleasing? OR 
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Mar 7 08:30:06 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Mar 7 02:42:27 2008. My Father told me of the vending machines being all over the system and I have seen them in movies like "Midnight Cowboy" and "Taking of Pelham One, two, three".But I never saw one, at least the ones that were wedged into the pillars that were small and compact. I remember the vending machines very vividly. This is what I remember: 1) Gum machines dispensing penny gum, orange in color and a mirror on the upper part. Dentyne gum and Chiclits was dispensed by dropping a penny underneath your selection and turning large round knob. Your gum/candy in a tiny cardboard box would drop to the opening below. 2) 5 cent candy machines red in color mounted on the columns. Dispensed Hershey's candy bars, usually three or four different types. In the flick Somebody Up There Likes Me one can be seen where Paul Newman breaks into one a steals money. The scene was at the Chambers St. station disguised as 14th St !! 3) Large candy/gum machines which were identical to the cigarette machines you'd see elsewhere. They were notorious for stealing your money after dispensing a coin for a certain candy and pulling the plunger, then getting ripped off! 4) Scales to weigh yourself, I think it was a penny but not sure. 5) Soda vending machines that dispensed soda for a dime in paper cups with crushed ice. One time I was railfanning and at DeKalb Ave while waiting for a Brighton train I observed a man servicing the machine. When he was finished and wanted to see if it was working right he told me make a selection (gratis). I did, I got my soda for free and that made my day. Sometimes these machines would screw up with no cup dropping and watching your soda go down the drain or a cup drop down and not getting any soda! 6) There were ice cream vending machines that dispensed ice cream pops and ice cream sandwiches. Cost about a dime, inserted your dime, pressed a button, lifted the door and watched a metal conveyor move up and deliver your ice cream pop. You then reached in and pulled it out. 7) There were also older grapefruit juice vending machines for a dime a cup. One is seen in the 8) I also remember peanut vending machines strapped to columns that looked much like the Ford gum ball vending machines with the glass globes. The peanuts looked red in color IIRC. There were probably other vending machines that were used in the subway system over the years that I don't recall. They were revenue but trash generators. The best thing the TA did was remove them all. But now vending machines have returned, dispensing Metrocards ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 08:36:02 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Mar 7 08:30:06 2008. >>>But now vending machines have returned, dispensing Metrocards !<< ..and they are the biggest trash generators going. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 7 09:57:39 2008, in response to IND 57 Street station, posted by R42 4787 on Fri Mar 7 01:13:50 2008. I like it too. It looks much more modern than Grand St. And much more tasteful than Grant Ave. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Mar 7 10:11:59 2008, in response to IND 57 Street station, posted by R42 4787 on Fri Mar 7 01:13:50 2008. This station looks sterile. The tiles make it look like a prison. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri Mar 7 11:14:43 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:39:18 2008. Wow!!! The 59th Street/CC rehab looks to have been a botched attempt. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 11:38:38 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 07:53:49 2008. They extended the elevator shaft last month to Middle Earth. The next time you get on a train there, don't be surprised to see a Hobbit and a couple of orcs on the train. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 7 11:41:45 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:59:54 2008. Yeah, what was funny about that? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 11:51:31 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 11:38:38 2008. I'm certain that we'll see an Olag-Hai. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 11:51:57 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 7 11:41:45 2008. lol |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 12:09:42 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 7 09:57:39 2008. I have no problems with 57, but of the 40s-50s style stations, Euclid is by far my favorite. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 12:11:10 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Mar 7 11:14:43 2008. Meh...It is not very different from 42/PABT's overhaul in design or quality. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 12:15:51 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 12:11:10 2008. I like what they did there. |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Fri Mar 7 12:27:41 2008, in response to IND 57 Street station, posted by R42 4787 on Fri Mar 7 01:13:50 2008. The station design downstairs is a bit too bland for my liking (especially the spartan "57th St" on the station walls), however the mezzanine level is one of my favorites in the system. It's very sleek. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 7 13:33:45 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 12:09:42 2008. Actually, I like that whole stretch of stations - Liberty, Van Sicklen, Shephard, and Euclid. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Mar 7 14:15:58 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 7 07:53:49 2008. False. It has 11 elevator banks and I believe the last branch of Manufacturers Hanover Trust bank in the world.Please get your facts straight :P --Mark |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 7 14:56:38 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 7 02:33:30 2008. Aren't you a TA employee? |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 7 14:57:48 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 12:11:10 2008. What's bad about 42nd's quality? |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 7 14:59:39 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:45:01 2008. No station has more water damage than 21st-Van Alst. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 15:07:06 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Mar 7 14:15:58 2008. Do the elevator banks have ATMs? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 7 15:07:14 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Mar 7 08:30:06 2008. all of which inspired thegreat New Yorker cartoon caption deposit 5c for subway noises. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 7 15:08:13 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 7 14:57:48 2008. IIRC, I think there may be a leak along one of the retiled walls. I dunno. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 7 15:12:16 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 02:34:57 2008. Sutphin is EASILY one of the worst stations in the system. You are kind saying "top 10", I say "top 5". It ranks up there whith CHambers St in condition, and it's 1/5 the age! At least Chambers has age as an excuse. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 15:36:02 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 12:15:51 2008. The tiles are falling off. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 15:37:06 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 15:36:02 2008. Use better tiles next time. But I like the design. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 15:37:19 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 7 14:59:39 2008. I disagree- Van Alst only has significant damage to one side, and the platform is relatively dry.If Van Alst was as dark as Sutphin you couldnt see it as well. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Mar 7 15:38:53 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 15:37:06 2008. I dont have issue with the design-- I do have issues with tiles falling down, especially before all the tiles are up. It indicates that the underlying water leakage has not been fixed. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Mar 7 15:57:13 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Mar 7 02:42:27 2008. Oh, I remember those very well. We had them at Union Turnpike on the F line, my home station growing up, until about 1975.My mom used to buy me Chiclets out of the pillar machines all the time. We even had candy bar vending machines, a soda machine and even an ice cream machine! Hard to believe today, but true. |
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Posted by Aq Arcticson on Fri Mar 7 16:32:10 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 02:38:15 2008. No the they have been out of service for awhile. It's only been recently that they are in sevice with the new directional sign for them. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 16:32:48 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Aq Arcticson on Fri Mar 7 16:32:10 2008. What does "awhile" mean? |
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Posted by Aq Arcticson on Fri Mar 7 16:37:05 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 16:32:48 2008. Several months, maybe even longer. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Mar 7 16:38:44 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 7 15:12:16 2008. Yeah, but the tragedy of Chambers is that it is an architectural gem that has been allowed to become ruins of what it once was. Sutphin was always, in my view, an architectural turd. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Mar 7 16:56:24 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street station, posted by Aq Arcticson on Fri Mar 7 16:37:05 2008. From when to when? |
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