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Posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 17:08:13 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 17:01:08 2007. 384? That would make me an even. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 17:09:29 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 17:06:53 2007. Yes, I know that the 160's are coming; BUT, I also know that the 46's and 68's are sticking around. So, I'll try to stay on those when the 160 becomes the predominant car-type on the road. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 17:10:26 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 17:09:29 2007. I agree. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 17:12:01 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 17:08:13 2007. Only in the numerical sense, my friend. Otherwise, you make Curly the Stooge look like a librarian. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Apr 15 17:19:04 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by error46146 on Sun Apr 15 15:18:26 2007. Those are one of the worst trains out there I can't wait for all R42 CI Rebuilds to be scrapped. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Apr 15 17:24:40 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 16:58:03 2007. The only thing I don't like about the R38's is they slide on the final stop. I don't mind working with the R44's. My favorite train of choice is a R 40 Slaint. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 17:26:37 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 17:12:01 2007. Nyuk, nyuk. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 17:36:14 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Apr 15 17:24:40 2007. I never noticed that about the 38s. I really have no gripe with operating any of the equipment. A train is a train. I'll make adjustments in my operation for a particular consist or a particular model. My gripe with any of the equipment is strictly from an ergonomic standpoint. I prefer standing up much of the time. The controls on a 32 are better suited for my stand-up trip than a 38 (remember, I'm 6'3"). The 40's, 42s and 46s are very comfortable for sitting down. The 44 is an ergonomic nightmare but I find I've gotten used to them. It hasn't chased me off the line yet. :-) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 15 18:03:46 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 12:51:53 2007. It's in the photo... |
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Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Sun Apr 15 18:36:11 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 16:18:45 2007. Yikes! The Redbirds were not as quite in that bad shape when they were pulled (the only problems they had, outside of the increasing lack of reliability, were rust holes popping up just about everywhere else). |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 18:44:33 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Apr 15 16:49:21 2007. "And can we please have a moment of silence?" |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 18:48:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Apr 15 17:00:14 2007. As others have noted, there are MANY differences between fleets. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Apr 15 20:24:02 2007, in response to PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 12:45:38 2007. Also note that the right pantograph gate and windshield wiper were removed. The two rider cars flanking the R-42 also looked stripped for scrapping.Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 20:24:25 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Apr 15 20:24:02 2007. The end of the R42 is near. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:35:41 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 16:20:57 2007. Absolutely, no comparison. Had an RDO a couple of years ago on the A line. GO job. 1 1/2 trips 207 to FR. Was stuck with a cramped R44 for the first round trip. Had an R38 for the last half. I was in heaven. Great acceleration and great brakes. Eventhough I was local in Manhattan and express in Brooklyn, it still was an easy trip. Couldn't say the same for the R44 round trip. Since my body is not used to the R44, my back was sore for a week. I will miss the R38's when they're gone. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:42:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 17:08:13 2007. 45. But don't worry. I would NEVER pick the A (or the L for that matter). I don't care if they double my salary, I still wouldn't pick them. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:43:28 2007, in response to PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 12:45:38 2007. Did you see 4927 anywhere? |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:44:20 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:42:32 2007. Damn. You know that you've got primo seniority when your file number can be drawn in Lotto. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:44:43 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by error46146 on Sun Apr 15 15:18:26 2007. They suck. Especially the CI rebuilds (4840-4949) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:47:34 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 16:44:17 2007. So South Brooklyn Railway gets the answer to the eternal question "Who's Your Daddy?" |
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Posted by Q35 Limited on Sun Apr 15 20:48:16 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:35:41 2007. What about an R32 compared to the R38 or is there no difference? |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:50:51 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:44:43 2007. Yes, they do. I've had two reversers get "eaten" by CI42's, I couldn't get them out of the controller. The first time, I had a layup to Stillwell Yard and called for an RCI. He had to take apart the controller and hit the reverser out with a hammer and screwdriver. Took about 10 minutes. Second time, I was on the W. Arived at Astoria, couldn't get it out, RCI couldn't get it out either. Had to abandon the reverser and leave it in the controller, Dispatcher gave me a new one.If I had to work CI42's on a steady basis, I'd need one more piece of equipment: a steel file. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 20:54:14 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:50:51 2007. Are all the CIR42's kept at a specific shop? |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:56:44 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 20:54:14 2007. Now, I would imagine that they all belong to Coney Island, but at the time I was laying up an M. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 21:00:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:56:44 2007. Do subway cars have any standard 110 volt outlets? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:06:04 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 16:54:46 2007. At least one passenger (me!) agrees. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:07:07 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 18:48:36 2007. No, everything old is the same. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:09:18 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 21:00:28 2007. I learned today that R-142's do. I don't know about anything else. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 21:09:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:07:07 2007. Qualify 'old'. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 21:22:35 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 20:42:32 2007. Heh. Bill, with your seniority, pick wherever you want. You've earned that right. There's always someplace for me to land. Unfortunately for Zman179, I'll probably cramp his style. :-) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 21:24:21 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 20:54:14 2007. Fleet numbers 4840 to 4949. Lower numbered cars are assigned to ENY shop, higher numbered cars assigned to CI shop. Heavy work is done at CI Main Shop on both fleets. The dividing line between both barns is somewhere in the 4920's. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 21:28:04 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 15 18:03:46 2007. I couldn't quite make it out. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 21:29:10 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 16:20:57 2007. I believe I was speaking for myself. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:29:51 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 21:09:32 2007. Ask (SIR) North Shore Line. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 15 21:31:08 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 21:09:32 2007. Any vehicle that's older than 5 years. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 21:36:54 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 17:05:17 2007. Hmmm, that may explain why the operator of an R160B I was on seemed to stop short at three different stations on the Sea Beach line a couple of weeks ago. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 21:37:06 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:29:51 2007. Right, the guy who thinks they're going to build a cross harbor tunnel for the 1 train. Pshaw! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Apr 15 21:58:19 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 21:36:54 2007. New tech trains are a different animal altogether, if you are used to two handles, then that single controller takes ajusting.Then theres those black boxes... I work with those R142's so im kinda used to it,as well as two handles. Once you learn to operate them in wet weather is not so bad.. |
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Posted by R384149 on Sun Apr 15 22:06:48 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by R30A on Sun Apr 15 16:23:02 2007. If theyre reliable and the operators all like them and they arent in rly bad shape, why are they getting rid of them now? |
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Posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 15 22:19:52 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by R384149 on Sun Apr 15 22:06:48 2007. Why do you keep changing your handle? |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Apr 15 22:51:29 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:50:51 2007. I hate those trains but I will be seeing alot of them if this pick. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Apr 15 23:14:12 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Zman179 on Sun Apr 15 20:50:51 2007. That happened to me on an R44 at Far Rock. Since the controller is locked in direction when that occurs the rewards are great. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 15 23:14:24 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 15 21:24:21 2007. Might be a bit lower than that - saw my good friend #4918 (Nose:#4726)on the "N" on Tuesday, swinging into QBP. That car has the best AC of any of the CI 42's. wayne |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Apr 15 23:24:42 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by MJF on Sun Apr 15 17:36:14 2007. Me neither. I first operated the R38s during the GOH changover and even after they tinkered with BC pressures and relay valves, they always stopped in a predictable fashion except pre-GOH. THe thing I hated about the slants was their truck hunting and lateral motion. Other than that, the R44 was really bad before they were stripped of their blue stripes. They had OK dynamic braking, sometimes rubber banding like PRE-GOH R32s, but had piss poor friction. Many times you used dymanic to stop short and hoped in full service during the friction brake function, you guessed right. Full service stopped better than emergency in PRE-GOH post P-wire R44s. But a train is a train and the checks keep a coming. |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Apr 15 23:27:00 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 15 21:09:18 2007. remember seeing some on R32's prior to rebuild |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Apr 15 23:29:38 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 16:44:17 2007. 'we will make the subway a better place!'GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Mon Apr 16 01:27:05 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 15:18:32 2007. Yea. As long as it is done in the Willets Point scrap yards or chop shops. Then you can see them from the 7. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Mon Apr 16 01:28:00 2007, in response to PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 15 12:45:38 2007. I guess I was right. The CI R42s were going first. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Apr 16 01:30:05 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 15 21:28:04 2007. DAMN!You need a better monitor! |
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Posted by Q35 Limited on Mon Apr 16 01:32:51 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: First R42 scrap car., posted by R30A on Mon Apr 16 01:30:05 2007. Or a mouse with a 'magnifying glass'. |
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