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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:14:12 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 3 23:45:03 2006. 'Do you want all the Subchatters to slap you over this issue' will do, but only if he is a masochist |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:17:06 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 3 23:47:07 2006. R10's, 12/14's,15's,16's,17's,21/22's27/30's were all in service during parts of the '80's......R1/9's were in garbage service |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:19:01 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 3 23:50:15 2006. ' If he was interested in art, he would've done it on canvas'just like the sistine chapel |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:20:43 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Oct 3 23:55:15 2006. 'Corona Yard is too security tight for vandals to be able to enter the yard and tag the train there. 'And it could NEVER be an inside job.......... |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:22:13 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Oct 3 23:55:15 2006. 'Corona Yard is too security tight for vandals to be able to enter the yard and tag the train there. 'And it could NEVER be an inside job.......... 'Correct me if I'm wrong, but this rule does NOT apply to trains laid up on the structure or in tunnels. ' in such cases, could it hurt them to key open a door and check the sides of each car, in order to avoid a situation like this---I've done it |
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THE TRUTH from G1Ravage (Re: 7 train tagged in service!) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Oct 4 00:23:11 2006, in response to 7 train tagged in service!, posted by gonzea on Tue Oct 3 17:39:55 2006. That car WAS tagged...about three to five months ago.Now that I've remembered that car number, that car has always had graffiti "residue" left on it from when they tried to clean it and did a horrible job. If you look closely at the car today, you'll see some very faded "colors" on the side of the train, as well as in the doorway, and the doorway "step". This car has not been tagged in months. The picture is most likely real, but old. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:23:23 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Edwards! on Tue Oct 3 23:58:54 2006. 'it sends the wrong message to the perves... 'what was the message again?????? |
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Re: I SMELL A RAT! |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Wed Oct 4 00:23:33 2006, in response to I SMELL A RAT!, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Oct 3 18:07:45 2006. Look carefully at the JFIF headers...it indicates that Photoshopwas used on the file. $ strings -a img1.jpg |more JFIF ZExif Canon Canon PowerShot A95 2030:02:03 03:54:41 0220 0100 2030:02:03 03:54:41 2030:02:03 03:54:41 Photoshop 3.0 8BIM |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:24:26 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Wed Oct 4 00:04:30 2006. 'Tourist come to this city and if they see this type of stuff, they would have bad perceptions of this system'guess you know the likes/dislikes of every tourist that comes to this city |
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Re: 7 train tagged in service! - clean photos |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Oct 4 00:38:55 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service! - clean photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 3 23:11:01 2006. BTW, the graffiti residue should be on the other side of the car. (The side against the wall). |
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Re: 7 train tagged in service! - clean photos |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 4 00:41:54 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service! - clean photos, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Oct 4 00:38:55 2006. That's what I thought I saw. Thanks. |
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Posted by Atomsk on Wed Oct 4 01:11:49 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Oct 3 21:23:15 2006. Needs a gallon can of paint stripper and a wire brush. |
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Posted by Atomsk on Wed Oct 4 01:14:53 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 3 21:46:37 2006. Huzah! |
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Posted by Atomsk on Wed Oct 4 01:28:29 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 3 22:18:56 2006. I made the Disnyland comparison myself, on my trip to the city last month. I remember thinking how much cleaner it (not just the subway, but the whole city) was. Even compared to the early '90s, when I used to visit regularly, the difference is noticable.What I want to know is, how did this little miscreant get access to the train in the first place? Have security measures gotten lax, since the problem was origianlly wiped out in the late '80s? |
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Posted by Atomsk on Wed Oct 4 01:29:40 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by monorail on Tue Oct 3 23:59:18 2006. and ugly is UGLYand criminal is CRIMINAL!!!! |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 01:37:16 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Atomsk on Wed Oct 4 01:29:40 2006. beauty is in the eye of the beholder! |
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Re: THE TRUTH from G1Ravage (Re: 7 train tagged in service!) |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 01:39:24 2006, in response to THE TRUTH from G1Ravage (Re: 7 train tagged in service!), posted by G1Ravage on Wed Oct 4 00:23:11 2006. 'This car has not been tagged in months.' perhaps it is due for another! |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Oct 4 01:59:42 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 3 23:39:28 2006. Yo that shit looks mad cool yo word up shun. |
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Posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Wed Oct 4 02:00:44 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 01:37:16 2006. DAMN!!! What I would have given to see that in service; what a score. Does anybody remember about a year ago when that R68 Frankin Shuttle train was tagged when parked btwn Parkside and Prospect Park and left there for about a week, now that was a beautiful job. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Oct 4 02:07:31 2006, in response to 7 train tagged in service!, posted by gonzea on Tue Oct 3 17:39:55 2006. The taggers managed to keep the paint away from the windows. When the graffiti epidemic was at its peak in the 1970s. Many times some paint wound wind up on the windows of the subway cars.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 4 02:08:42 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Oct 4 02:07:31 2006. True. It was pretty horrible. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 02:18:44 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Wed Oct 4 02:00:44 2006. got photos? |
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Posted by SilverFox on Wed Oct 4 04:24:00 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Oct 3 19:59:33 2006. Look, I see your point, but please see ours as well. In the early 80s, I was still pre-teen to very early teen, but I remember the appearance of the trains and stations crystally clear. There were few, if any, naturally-painted, tiled, or cemented parts of the subway system. True, some of the graffiti were well-executed, but the overall air of the system was sinister and uninviting. Everything was filthy, crumbling, and exuded the hint that further danger lurks not too far away. You always felt like a lamb going to slaughter, either as a target on a platform, or subject to roving gangs of wolf packs or mechanical breakdowns on the trains themselves. The whole system either smelled of something burning, or of urine. Each night on the news, there would seemingly be some new screwup either caused by mechanical breakdown (more like the machine just couldn't take it anymore and outright disintigrated), or by the ingenuity and ferocity of the crime detailed. I remember the story of some idiot running around Ely Avenue with a meat cleaver. He wasn't caught for some time before doing a lot of damage to straphangers. The subway was a place nobody wanted to be; not even if they had to be there. Unlike today. Graffiti have sort-of reinvented themselves as "ghetto chic," commissioned by legitimate "artists" looking to make money or expose their talents to the public and have little, if any, malice toward the establishment. But in the 80s graffiti weren't ghetto chic. They were a message that authority and law and order weren't in control, and that all hope should be abandoned once entering the scrawled halls. I hope you can now understand and appreciate our desire for keeping graffiti as far OFF subways and buses and other public fixtures as much as possible. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Wed Oct 4 04:29:24 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Oct 3 21:32:09 2006. Sorry, but you need to realize that some graffiti is actually tasteful. Sorry, but YOU need to realize that there is a time and place for everything, and graffiti have NO place on public fixtures. If the City wants to commission a mural on the side of its subway cars, garbage trucks, buses, or what-have-you, that's the City's business, not the business of some renegade artist/thug wanting to make a name for himself. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 4 05:13:25 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 01:37:16 2006. Time to get your vision checked. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 4 07:59:31 2006, in response to Re: I SMELL A RAT!, posted by Jeff H. on Wed Oct 4 00:23:33 2006. Yeah, but it may have been used only for resizing the photo to download quickls.ROAR! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 4 08:21:39 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Oct 3 21:23:15 2006. I may throw up. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed Oct 4 08:22:35 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Oct 3 23:24:22 2006. IAWTPOr even batter, if SBR will provide his address maybe we can get together and do a house tagging party (in glow in the dark paint) |
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Posted by ALP44 on Wed Oct 4 08:32:24 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 3 20:49:30 2006. You must know then. If my theory is inaccurate, then elighten me, sir. Remember, I know the tricks of the trade so I'm waitin'.Until then..... ALP 44 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 4 08:50:20 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 3 23:39:28 2006. Olog, I agree with you 100% Never again! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 09:09:00 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Oct 4 01:59:42 2006. Go to school and learn English. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 09:12:36 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Oct 3 21:35:52 2006. Not to mention that crap cost the city and the MTA BILLIONS of dollars to clean up and continue to have to clean up every day. That's wasted billions on projects that would have actually benefited the subway system and it's riders instead of basically just having it thrown away because some asshole kids had to get an orgasm destroying property and defacing property that isn't theirs. It's so unnecessary. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Oct 4 09:27:02 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 3 21:46:37 2006. ZERO Tolerance.1) No Graffiti on the road. 2) Arrest, prosecution, fines AND jail time for perps. 3) Monetary restitution of cost to clean or repaint car even if it's garnished from wages, home assistance etc. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 09:27:56 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Oct 4 09:27:02 2006. 3) Monetary restitution of cost to clean or repaint car even if it's garnished from wages, home assistance etc.Agreed completely. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Oct 4 09:46:36 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 00:10:01 2006. like it or not, it IS there! look up on the ceiling beams in most stations, there is filth on themThat's not filth, just accumulation of steel dust. Eliminate the steel wheels and no more steel dust ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 4 10:11:24 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 4 08:21:39 2006. Now, now...-w- |
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Posted by R142 #6666 on Wed Oct 4 10:12:16 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 09:09:00 2006. It's basic THUGANOMICS. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 10:21:13 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by R142 #6666 on Wed Oct 4 10:12:16 2006. I know, I don't live in a cave....but it doesn't belong here. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 4 10:24:22 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Oct 4 02:07:31 2006. I remember seeing R44 #124 (current #5268) back in 1973 covered from roof to sill, end to end by a single "piece". All of the windows and doors were completely blacked out. Had to take at least 50 cans of paint. A most unpleasant surprise, no doubt.=w= |
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Posted by Jace on Wed Oct 4 10:45:41 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Oct 3 17:43:41 2006. The whole point of grafitti is to be seen. You put a piece up, you want other people to see it. If it doesn't stay up or the the train doesn't leave the yard then no one sees it and you lose. It's a game of who's smarter/braver/etc.The thing about scratchiti and even the glass etching stuff is that it doesn't show up nearly as well as a piece on the outside of a train. Again, if you can't read it, or worse, other people can't read it, then there's no point in doping it except for those people out there who do it just to piss other people off. Again, it's a game - challenge authority, you win. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 11:00:00 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by monorail on Wed Oct 4 01:37:16 2006. But criminal is in the eye of the law. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Oct 4 11:01:55 2006, in response to Re: I SMELL A RAT!, posted by monorail on Tue Oct 3 21:21:14 2006. Then READ THE FREAKIN' MANUAL! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 11:02:55 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Wed Oct 4 02:00:44 2006. You should have ridden your beloved L when every filthy wreck of a train and station looked like that for almost 20 years, and you'll see how well you would have thought you scored: 
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Posted by Deaks on Wed Oct 4 11:18:53 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Oct 3 17:52:33 2006. That level of vandalism on rolling stock should not be tolerated.Correct, but.... Whoever is responsible for letting it out on the road in that condition should be disciplined. Well.... no. It may have been the last available trainset in the yard to cover peak service - you're saying that it's more important to not have a car running with a slight bit of graffitti on it that providing all the timetabled service? You'd rather have one less train running on the line - just so no-one has to see a poxy little piece of 'artwork'? |
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Posted by 5119 on Wed Oct 4 11:49:53 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 4 08:50:20 2006. It seems like this garbage is starting up again. These animals need to be arrested and deported! |
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Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Wed Oct 4 11:54:35 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 4 09:12:36 2006. IAWTP. |
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Posted by tydev417 on Wed Oct 4 13:15:48 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Oct 3 17:40:31 2006. You're kidding right? Graffiti has no place on the system's fleet. It's a thing of the past, and will a thing of the past.
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 4 14:24:55 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 4 10:11:24 2006. I find graffiti to be nauseating. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 4 14:25:58 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 4 10:24:22 2006. One can of paint splashed all over one side will do the trick. Kind of what Judy Carne used to go through on Laugh-in (Sock it to me!). |
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Posted by ALP44 on Wed Oct 4 14:27:14 2006, in response to Re: 7 train tagged in service!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 4 10:24:22 2006. It it was top to bottom on a 75 footer, it took more than 50 cans.ALP 44 |
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