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Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 08:38:52 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 18:25:21 2006. No, the Astoria Line. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 08:56:32 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 08:00:43 2006. If you aren't a liar, and if my supposed actions were so awful that you wouldn't want to associate with me, then you should have no problem recalling my supposed actions and telling me them privately via email. Subtalk at railfanwindow dot com. If you can't, then you're just like Ron - making accusations but refusing to back them up. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 08:58:58 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 08:56:32 2006. I like my anonymity and want to keep it that way so, no. End of discussion. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 19 09:31:59 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SilverFox on Thu May 18 22:36:03 2006. Well, that one's up on horses being stripped. Here's one that's not being prepped for scrap:
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 19 09:33:18 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 13:27:09 2006. And I note the car in the picture actually has seats without air tanks on 'em. :)You want air tanks? 
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri May 19 09:37:57 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 19 09:31:59 2006. I see an impostor strap. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 09:40:12 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 06:45:34 2006. No problem, amigo and I likewise meant no personal offense. Like I said, I can appreciate a good vent. I've personally seen some really bad behavior, too, although I think the MOD attendees were sterling compared to some who attended the Metro North fantrips (and some of these were old-school railfans, some of whom consider themselves on the Orion's belt of railfan gods). I also agree that only a sphincter with ears would constantly post photos of somebody else's on-the-job errors to the internet (no, not anomolies like weird roll sign settings or badly proofread GO posters).IMO, it's probably a good thing in the long run that some of these fantrips are suspended. If the threat of them being taken away for bad behavior would more seriously hang over railfans' heads, it might curtail the bad behavior. That or onsite corporal punishment... your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 09:40:17 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by David of Broadway on Fri May 19 09:37:57 2006. Spy. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 09:44:56 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 08:58:58 2006. How would telling me privately by email what I "did" compromise your anonymity? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 09:45:49 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 07:29:02 2006. I'm wrong all the time. And whenever I am, I admit it. I think I was "wrong" at least twice yesterday. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 09:57:42 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 19 09:31:59 2006. I'll take a strap or two, thanks. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 19 12:58:35 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:04:38 2006. Yes. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 15:41:35 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 18:37:10 2006. I hear tell there are some, yeah.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Green over Green on Fri May 19 15:46:10 2006, in response to TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 16 22:25:10 2006. THANK YOU! I've joined the TM and signed up for the July 22 trip. It will be on Lo-V's. Now I'm kicking myself for not checking out the Transit Museum's web site recently. I would have loved to go on the High Line trip (used to live across the street from it, on Horatio Street, when there were actually trains running on it) as well as the City Hall station tour. Oh well, shame on me. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 16:14:34 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:11:47 2006. Was Blomberg operating the train? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 16:21:01 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 02:46:49 2006. Oh ok thanks! I need to do a little bit more research. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 16:23:19 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:02:20 2006. Alright thanks, I copied and saved it to word pad to read it a little more. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 16:27:31 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 08:38:52 2006. I seen a picture of an BMT Q car at 45th Road/Court House Square. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 16:28:04 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:09:22 2006. You remember correctly.  your pal, Fred |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 19 16:36:44 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 03:33:22 2006. The couplers on the prewar IRT eguipment were "J" series. They were not fully automatic as the H series but only semi automatic in that they contained the air connections within the drawhead. J couplers, however could not be coupled to H couplers without damaging the tappets on the H coupler due to the air connections being at different angles. The air connections on a J drawhead were at 90 degree angles to the front of the car whereas the air connections on a H drawhead are at 45 degrees. Also H drawheads had tappets on the air connections which automatically opened and closed when cuts and adds were made. J drawheads had open gasket sockets which required that air connections between cars had to be manually opened and closed for cuts and adds. Also the actual coupler locks on H drawheads were pneumatically operated from cutting valves inside the M/M's cab or under the car whereas the J couplers had to be manually unlocked for cuts. Both couplers locked automatically upon coupling. To my knowledge, the museum Low-Vs have had standard H drawheads installed in order to provide ease of coupling to conventional equipment in the event they would have to be towed. Of course with the newer equipment having Ohio Brass type drawheads, an adapter would be required in such a case anyhow. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 18:48:16 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by randyo on Fri May 19 16:36:44 2006. Been 35 years now for me since last I climbed ... wow. Heh. Back then though, I was amused at how many different couplers I spotted at Coney on those LoV's in the back with "WM" on them. Then it was explained to me why that was. And yeah, still have my "magic fork" from the old days of cuts and adds at 168th when the AA ran. Lucky enough to pick up some of that duty in the AM's when the B's needed to be turned into something else there. :)Still, the cobbage you guys have nowadays beats all hell out of dragging along an extra car or two just to make up a work train. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 19:41:41 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 19 09:33:18 2006. Heh. No tanks ... I'll wait for the express. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 19:42:47 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 19 09:33:18 2006. Whatb were the air tanks for? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:08:36 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 19:42:47 2006. Numerous work cars don't have compressors, so bottles of extra air storage are provided on rider cars that do have compressors so that all of the brake pipes are happy. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:11:36 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:08:36 2006. Oh ok, thanks! I guess there is no worry for the straight air to go bad :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:14:19 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:11:36 2006. Reservoir air (which does the real work) is controlled by the brake pipe. It all works. In freight trains, all of the air comes from the locomotive's compressor with little bottles along the trainlength to hold it. And you're MOST welcome! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:15:28 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:14:19 2006. Thank you VERY much! Now the Reservoir air is in the brake piston, am I correct? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:25:13 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:15:28 2006. Indirectly, yes ... you might find THIS page a very well-done explanation of how it all comes together:http://thejoekorner.quuxuum.org/brakes.htm |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 20:25:14 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 19 12:58:35 2006. The difficulty in breaking the train had nothing to do with themechanical reluctance of the couplers. It had everything to do with the electrical reluctance of the BUs to take power. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:26:50 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 20:25:14 2006. Heh. The voltage is a bit low out there. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:27:01 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:25:13 2006. Thanks! I have book marked the page to study it! |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 20:27:11 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 19 08:00:39 2006. Yes, as evidenced by the fact that we regularly couple it to 1689. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:27:49 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:27:01 2006. It'll keep you amused for hours. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:29:17 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:26:50 2006. Mainly in Short Beach. I put the R17 in full power coming back to the Barns and it would die off, so I had to leave it on 2 points of power. But it was fun to operate it! Too easy for me :) The R9 was a bit tricky but I got the hang of it. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:33:18 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:29:17 2006. I was the only one to stay there the longest, I got there aroung 9:45AM and I left at 9:04PM. I got to put that last trolly away, that was cool :) |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:35:52 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:29:17 2006. Truly amusing at Branford when W3 is out on the main and there's a trolley or two rolling. 1689'll dim the lights right out. In Jeff's case though I was referring to the Rockaway area which is kinda like Branford for "watts for tots" ... dunno if things have improved out there, but used to be there were a number of spots which were below 500 volts and some cars won't run at a reduced voltage ... since the BU's were built for BRT's cheesy distribution system though, comes as a surprise that THEY were unhappy ... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:38:33 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:35:52 2006. Yea, I remember when I had the late put-in for 1689 at dusk, We seen the lights dim ALOT. Then the dispatcher gave orders to put the trollies away and for me to proceed to the loading barn area. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 19 22:52:11 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 19 08:24:10 2006. I only rode one of the three on a revenue train with a RFW. I tried getting a RFW during an F train GO when it was express from Jay to Church, but couldn't get the window. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 20 01:57:00 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 16:28:04 2006. 'pwned Mr "they were coupling that train together".... |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 20 01:57:45 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 16:14:34 2006. U tell me genius... |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 20 01:59:12 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 20:24:47 2006. so, in other words, they never hooked up a BU with a R33 right? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 20 22:20:46 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Green over Green on Fri May 19 15:46:10 2006. The High Line trip was pure BS. It was a walking tour UNDER the structure, at street level, not ON it. So I canceled my reservation. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 21 07:52:45 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 20 22:20:46 2006. Rightly so. We can do that ourselves.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by jabrams on Sun May 21 15:56:53 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri May 19 20:38:33 2006. To answer theoriginal poster's question: We trasferred from the R1-9's to the BU's on the centertrack (near Rockaway Blvd). The R1/9's proceded us (empty as allthepassengers wentintothe BU cars (it was their first timein use). TheR1/9's were there in case we broke down and had to be towed. The people yousawinthe BU's were transit personnel, (so thatregular passengers would not try to enteratthe underground stations. The M.O.D. trips (or Transit Museum trips)have now been starting at Columbus Circle. When the route wason the Eatern Division (I remember twice), we started at Chambers Street. |
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