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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 06:45:34 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 00:05:33 2006. Apologies if I come off a bit "gruff" but you're right about the attitudes of folks who have pounded rails for a living (and we also run trains at museums, try to help out when and where we can, have model trains and are avid "foamers" ourselves - that's WHY I worked for transit) and some of our attitudes as expressed, but there ARE reasons for it and in my own situation, felt that it could be helpful trying to explain *WHY* that is even if it might have come off all wrong ...YOU are a rather reasonable person, thus I'll try to explain this as well. Most important situation is that a LOT of comments were made as the strike was about to come down while I was trying to imbue my own personal "expertise" to TWU folks as to what would come down (and every prediction proved accurate as TWU's leadership didn't listen) and "foamers" made themselves a LOT of enemies among the folks who run their "precious trains" as a result of the nonsense posted here prior to the "illegal transit strike." A question was asked about the MOD trips and I (hopefully) merely provided an explanation as to WHY they ain't gonna happen again. I had no part in what happened, what ramifactions occurred as a result of what happened - my purpose was merely to explain *WHAT* happened and frankly, I have no obligation to provide evidence - all I have in my own personal possession is a couple of scenes of videotape of some folks walking around on the trackbed at "lower Chambers" which was referred to by other people I know as an absolute "the WIGS saw this and they freaked" provided by a friend of mine as a favor since I was unable to attend. As I indicated in my post, had a friend who works for MTA who dropped by with a tape and showed me a few OTHER things that can only be chalked up to "what were these people THINKING?" which further convinced management that the MOD trips were a downside with no upside. I merely pointed out what had been indicated to me since I'd said to this person, "I *hope* I can get down there next year and ride them. And I got told WHY that wasn't going to happen in all its gory detail. I suppose what I should take away from this is that I just shouldn't have said anything and let it remain a mystery. As to "foamers and railroads" the reality is that people trespass, they use flash cameras in front of motorpeople trying to spot the ten car marker and do a lot of annoying things ... witness the behavior of some folks here and in O/T towards each other as well as some comments directed at me over a few things I discussed only to get sassed. Now transfer that behavior to the mindset of folks who just want to do their four trips and go home in peace. There's LOTS of us out here and there who LOVE our trains ... and there's life support for sphincters among the crowd as well. I genuinely don't mean to come off as "condescending" however, I *do* have BOTH sides of the coin as experience and thus thought that pointing out WHY things are as they are, they might offer some perspective that folks may or may not have as to WHY the "friction" between rail folks and hobbyists exist in the hopes that by understanding what the "other side's malfunction" is, perhaps some wisdom might ensue. But my intent was never to denigrate, and I'm kinda too old to care what people think about me anymore. But 9/11, the "illegal transit strike" and the extremely bad behavior of a few have REALLY rotted the fruit in the past year or so for people who RUN the trains and those who "observe" them ... and it JUST doesn't NEED to be like that. :( I wasn't there on the MOD trips. But I *saw* some videotape that I do NOT have copies of, along with one incident I *do* have a copy of (and photos WERE posted here on this very board of the "unlawful trackwalk at Chambers") ... I asked others with knowledge to witness their own testimony and that didn't happen, so I'll gladly put my tail between my legs and whine away from what I said since there's no "corroboration." But that was what I was told by several whose names I won't repeat who were DIRECTLY involved in it all. And THAT is another problem which has caused the attitude of many crews - the posting of NAMES of people with the MTA, specific car numbers associated with "misconduct" and interval times so that MTA (which possesses *NO* sense of humor) could pinpoint the "guilty parties" and give them the high hard one. Folks gotta realize that MTA is a VENGEFUL bunch of phucks and any TIME you mention specifics, someone gets the paddle there. It's a VERY sensitive thing to those of us who have worked there, even MORE so to those who still do. I'm not out to pick on ANYONE, but it DOES seem as though a large number of people do not realize that real people get hurt when chit flies here, and the MTA is REALLY an evil bunch of bastards just WAITING to rip the wings off flies ... it really IS like that there. And I thought it was bad when *I* was there - imagine having your paycheck yanked because it ain't straight for two weeks and the reason WHY it wasn't straight is that you rescued a baby carriage caught in a door on a redbird. Yep, that's happened too ... My whole purpose though in all I said was to explain WHY the MTA punished those who did good things and what their excuse for doing it was ... hope we're still friends, buddy ... I know YOU are not an arsole ... but there's plenty of OTHERS willing to step up to the plate ever doodah day ... hell, look at the childishness of just the messages from several of the perps back and forth right here. :( |
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