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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:13:14 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 10:41:55 2022.

To elaborate, BB said people who are wearing masks should stay away from everyone else.

You are discussing why people shouldn't need to wear masks if they choose not to. I never brought that up, and haven't brought that up in about 6 months.



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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed May 25 13:24:22 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Wed May 25 13:03:54 2022.

Then the world will keep having infections and increasingly evasive subvariants that evade vaccinations. We're in a yet another Covid wave because people think it is over.

Latest estimates from the federal goverment are that at least 60% of the US population has had Covid. That's 200 million people, which in turn means that the much-publicized one million deaths means a death rate of 0.5%.* Hardly a Guaranteed Death Sentence that all the fearmongerers whine about.
* = I'll bet it's even lower among people physically able to ride the subway

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 13:25:58 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed May 25 13:24:22 2022.

Nowadays, covid should be your least worry when you ride the subway!

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:37:49 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed May 25 13:24:22 2022.

Um, you don't have a 0.5% chance of dying due to a year of riding on the subway.

How about more like 1 in a million?



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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Wed May 25 13:38:06 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed May 25 13:24:22 2022.

You think that's al there is to it - 99.5% survive, and then forget about it ?

"one in five adults who recovered from a Covid-19 infection have experienced at least one medical condition relating to long Covid, according to a study published Tuesday by the CDC. The most common conditions among all adults were respiratory symptoms and musculoskeletal pain, the researchers found. Covid patients were also twice as likely as other people to have conditions affecting the lungs."

"Heart inflammation was found to be an ongoing problem for one in eight patients who were hospitalized with Covid-19,"







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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 13:47:09 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:08:04 2022.

You misread something. Go back and look.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 13:48:57 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:37:49 2022.

That’s not what he said. He’s saying that the covid death rate is 0.5% and that the covid death rate for those physically able to ride the subway is likely lower than that.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 25 14:12:36 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 13:25:58 2022.

It is. And I have to ride in less than an hour.
I’m debating whether or not I should bring a mask along for the ride

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 25 14:14:29 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Wed May 25 12:52:31 2022.

Poor thing. I’ll say it again to you - Retire

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 14:16:15 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 13:47:09 2022.

It's the others who need to stay away from us sane people.

The "sane people" are the ones not wearing masks.

Therefore the "others" are those wearing masks. BB says people wearing masks should stay away from people not wearing masks. I find that to be a disgusting sentiment. Why shouldn't I enter a store while wearing a mask if I want to.

Now maybe BB didn't mean what he wrote. But he wrote it.



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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 14:17:25 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 13:48:57 2022.

OK, it was someone else who said the subway was so dangerous nowadays.



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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 14:37:21 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 14:16:15 2022.

I think that’s a stretch and I understood the “others” to be those who have an issue with people not wearing masks as it was in response to Joe saying that those not wearing masks should stay away.

Joe thinks that anyone who has a problem with being required to wear a mask should stay away. Bill thinks that anyone who has a problem with people not wearing masks should stay away. Not one post stated that people wearing masks should stay away.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Wed May 25 15:14:43 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 25 14:14:29 2022.

I'l say this to you - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 15:37:21 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 14:37:21 2022.

OK, if I misunderstood BB's post, then you equally misunderstood mine. I never, ever suggested in this thread that people must continue to wear masks. My analogy to crutches should have made that clear, but I guess it didn't.



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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 15:38:42 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:05:42 2022.

No.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 15:39:43 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:13:14 2022.

Joe the Fifth is the one going on and on about everyone needing to wear a mask.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by AlM on Wed May 25 16:42:09 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 15:38:42 2022.

OK, thanks.

I am alleged to have misread BB's post. But then everyone misread my post.



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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 17:50:28 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 25 14:12:36 2022.

Why not? If a bad guy pulls a gun on you, you can always stick the mask in the barrel!!:)

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed May 25 19:08:32 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 25 12:54:17 2022.

LOL

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed May 25 19:09:50 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 16:42:09 2022.

Who's BB?

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed May 25 19:10:23 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed May 25 19:09:50 2022.

Oh never mind.

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Re: Masks on subway trains?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 25 20:13:58 2022, in response to Masks on subway trains, posted by JRR4 on Tue May 24 08:47:11 2022.

The title looks like it's a thread about masks being mandatory again.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Easy on Wed May 25 21:57:49 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 25 20:13:58 2022.

They are mandatory in LA and it was posted here last week that they are mandatory in NYC.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by ntrainride on Wed May 25 22:27:52 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Wed May 25 13:03:54 2022.

old coot.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 25 23:52:49 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 09:47:00 2022.

I have a Larry David mentality. I would be relieved!

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 25 23:56:32 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:08:04 2022.

Where did I say that?

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 25 23:57:38 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Easy on Wed May 25 14:37:21 2022.

Thank you! You get it!

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 25 23:57:51 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 15:37:21 2022.

Lo@lm!

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 25 23:59:24 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:13:14 2022.

Lo@lm! Um, no...

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 00:23:05 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Wed May 25 15:14:43 2022.

Wow. Such profanity. And I never curse anyone one this site. But if you feel that the best way to make your point go for it pal.
It’s says a whole lot!

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 07:44:59 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 00:23:05 2022.

Then stop giving long term life advice. I don't like seeing all of downstate NY now at high levels of transmission, with hospitalizations going up again, and it all because people let their guard down too soon.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 26 08:21:12 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 07:44:59 2022.

Wait! Didn't the federal government relax mask requirements? "Downstate NY" is following federal guidance.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 08:36:47 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 26 08:21:12 2022.

Yes they did. That doesn't make it right.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 08:37:31 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 07:44:59 2022.

I’ll do as I please and see fit.
To you and all the other fear mongers it time for you all to retire. Wipe down your groceries and mail and call it a career.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 08:44:13 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 08:37:31 2022.

Then you can tell that to a friend of mine down in Barneget who got boosted, got Covid anyway and came damn close to heading to the hospital, and was very sick for 2 weeks.

If you are so stupid to play chicken with this disease, that's your problem, not mine.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 09:19:06 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 08:44:13 2022.

Give me his number

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 26 09:50:16 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 08:36:47 2022.

Really? Following federal guidance is not right? Was it right when they required masks? Who's guidance should the general population follow?

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 10:48:53 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 17:50:28 2022.

Downtown D to C midday maybe 50% of the people had on a mask. Mostly the school kids riding home.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:50:36 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 10:48:53 2022.

The kids are used to it given that they have to wear that damn thing all day. I’m especially concerned about the younger kids having to wear them. I can’t imagine that concealing the most emotive part of the face doesn’t affect development. It’s like (non-permanent) tail docking for humans.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:53:49 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 07:44:59 2022.

You’re the one giving life advice with your insistence that we all wear masks.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 12:42:27 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:50:36 2022.

Agreed

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 12:42:42 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:53:49 2022.

Ha

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 14:54:49 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 26 09:50:16 2022.

Let me put this way: insufficient.

Had they been any more extreme, your side of the aisle would have screamed fascism, socialist, commmunism, civil rights, freedom, etc.

Now requirements have let up, we are in another wave, despite higher vax rates. Masks have mostly come down in NJ since the indoor requirment was lifted.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 14:55:18 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 26 09:19:06 2022.

You will get nothing of a kind.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 14:55:53 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:53:49 2022.

Costless and quite different than telling someone to retire.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 14:58:09 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:50:36 2022.

Younger kids can't get a vax.
Your anti-mask fanatisism is not based on any science.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu May 26 15:44:12 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 13:37:49 2022.

It's very unlikely that any subway rider will become a victim of violent crime. The real issue is that all the skells and beggars are creating an unpleasant atmosphere, and that in turn make the subway seem more menacing that it really is.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by randyo on Thu May 26 15:50:14 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by transitbuff on Tue May 24 16:19:09 2022.

I ride mostly buses these days, but I have noticed a high degree of non compliance with the mask requirement and that includes many of the bus operators who are unmasked.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 16:27:38 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 14:55:53 2022.

Not costless.

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Re: Masks on subway trains

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 16:28:50 2022, in response to Re: Masks on subway trains, posted by Joe V on Thu May 26 14:58:09 2022.

They’re also the least likely to suffer bad symptoms.

My anti-maskism is based on my exercise of rights over MY BODY. MY BODY MY CHOICE!

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