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Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June |
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Posted by gbs on Wed May 18 03:47:07 2022, in response to Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Tue May 17 16:18:45 2022. OMNY reduced fare information registration form |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed May 18 09:34:52 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by gbs on Wed May 18 03:47:07 2022. When does my transit benefit card that I have pre-tax salary deducted to get to go OMNY?I just got a new card and it has no chip, still have to use it in MVM or TVM use the pre-tax dedcuted cash. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 10:09:36 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed May 18 09:34:52 2022. I assume you keep the MetroCard until they establish OMNY refill machines. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 18 13:41:56 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 10:09:36 2022. And then there are people like me who pay through pre-tax payroll deduction AND are entitled to a reduced fare.I've given up trying to figure out exactly what they'll do. But it sure looks like an OMNY refill machine has to be part of the mix. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:02:05 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by gbs on Wed May 18 03:47:07 2022. gbs,Thank you for the linkage. |
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One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:03:56 2022, in response to Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Tue May 17 16:18:45 2022. I forgot t mention that the NY Transit Museum store in GCT has the OMNY card.It costs $16.00 ($11.00 in fare value, $5 for the cost of the card). The store DOES NOT have the capability to add value to the card. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:07:36 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed May 18 09:34:52 2022. "I just got a new card and it has no chip"Lou, that is very surprising. Almost all cards issued by banks these days have at least the chip on the card (some still don't have the 'contactless' feature). I would suggest you contact whoever in wherever you work or if there is a direct contact with the administrator of your Transit Benefit and ask why are they still behind with the chips. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 14:33:50 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:07:36 2022. He’s talking about the card that he uses to buy a MetroCard with the pre-tax benefit. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:37:19 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 14:33:50 2022. I understand. I had one of those many years ago, of course back then the chips weren't even thought of yet.I do think that by now the pre-tax benefit cards would have been upgraded just as a matter of course. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed May 18 14:56:25 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:37:19 2022. Heck..By Now,the new fare gates Should have been deployed..the New OMNI MVM machines installed...Everything to make the system Easy to use, hasn't been installed. I'm sorry,but I don't exactly feel comfortable with OMNI. Where is the MTA Omni Vending machine? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 15:19:54 2022, in response to One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Wed May 18 14:03:56 2022. How do you add value to an OMNY card?Yes, I’m sure I can Google it but I don’t feel like it. |
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Posted by Ancient Mariner on Wed May 18 15:23:32 2022, in response to Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Tue May 17 16:18:45 2022. HALLELUJAH!! At last my question has been answered, and YES I can use my contactless card to pay my (reduced) fare. No need to ever visit a MVM or TVM again, and no need to 'pre-pay' by loading fares onto a separate card. Anyone with a smartphone can do this too, and the MTA notes that farecapping will be automatic, so people who can't afford to lay out the full cost of today's monthly Metrocard can still benefit.I don't often have much praise for the MTA, but they've got a winner here. P.S. A contactless card is not the same as a chip card. All current credit cards have a chip, but only some are contactless today. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 18 15:32:11 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 15:19:54 2022. Given that MVMs don't let you do it, it would have to be online somehow, I would guess. I'm also not going to Google it. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 16:13:10 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Edwards! on Wed May 18 14:56:25 2022. The new fare gates have been deployed. All they had to do in the subway is add readers to the existing turnstiles - which they did. On buses they have added card readers by each farebox.Contactless debit and credit cards, smart phones (with online wallets) already work at these new readers (most of the times "I'm sorry,but I don't exactly feel comfortable with OMNI." Sorry to hear that but by 2024 (most likely), you won't have a choice. At some point during that year, expect the MetroCard to be phased out completely. "Where is the MTA Omni Vending machine?" My guess is that the machines are still being constructed and may be affected by various parts shortages or supply delivery delays. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 16:20:36 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 15:19:54 2022. You register the card on the OMNY site.Then you can either link it to a debit/credit card and set it for an auto refill for specified (you set the amount) amounts when it gets down to a certain level OR you can do a refill when you want to. Go to the OMNY site and read up on it http://www.omny.info |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 16:32:12 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Wed May 18 16:20:36 2022. That seems stupid since you can just use a CC directly. The OMNY card is only worthwhile if you could refill it with cash. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 16:50:31 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 16:32:12 2022. Not necessarily.A lot of people (like myself) do not want to use a CC or DC directly at the turnstile. We would rather feel that we 'better control' over our fare payments. The OMNY card provides that. While I would have no real problem refilling an OMNY card online, I would rather do it at a machine or an authorized vendor (if you can find one whose employees know how to do it) because then I just add money when I am already in the subway as I need it (I do this with my R-F card now). |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 18 17:23:14 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 16:32:12 2022. The OMNY card is only worthwhile if you could refill it with cash.Or you are entitled to a reduced fare (so the card has to say you are a special person), or you don't have a credit card, or you don't want to risk your credit card being snatched out of your hand as you move to pay on entry. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 17:37:08 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by AlM on Wed May 18 17:23:14 2022. "(so the card has to say you are a special person)"Special person??!!!!! You have to insult people such as Senior Citizens (of which I count myself among)?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:00:14 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by AlM on Wed May 18 17:23:14 2022. My credit card refunds fraudulent transactions made and can be cancelled and replaced for free. So I really don’t care if it gets snatched. Can OMNY do that?This thread already establishes that a special OMNY card will not be necessary for senior citizens and people with disabilities. If you don’t have a credit card, then that falls under the use case of “refill it with cash,” making online refills by credit card impossible, so it only supports my point that such functionality is useless. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:04:28 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Allan on Wed May 18 16:50:31 2022. Regarding doing it at a vendor or machine: that just furthers my argument than an online auto-refill is a redundant feature.Why do you think that using an OMNY card gives you better control? |
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Posted by Ancient Mariner on Wed May 18 18:06:26 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by AlM on Wed May 18 17:23:14 2022. Since the only credit or debit cards that will active the turnstiles are CONTACTLESS, they do not have to be in your hand in the first place. I keep my contactless card inside a pouch on my belt, and I just wave it near the reader when I make a purchase, and I plan to do the same when OMNY is activated for me. And of course there are many other ways someone can avoid having to expose their card to theft.For people using their phone, it's probably in their hand already, since I've observed that smartphone devotees are pretty much using it 24/7. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 18 18:30:12 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:00:14 2022. So I really don’t care if it gets snatched.My wife and I have had 4 separate fraud attacks on our credit cards. We haven't lost a penny but we sure have lost a lot of time. This thread already establishes that a special OMNY card will not be necessary for senior citizens and people with disabilities. I missed that. How does the system know to deduct $1.35 from my card and $2.75 from yours? |
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Posted by Allan on Wed May 18 19:51:55 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by AlM on Wed May 18 18:30:12 2022. "How does the system know to deduct $1.35 from my card and $2.75 from yours?"You have to register your Debit or Credit card on the OMNY site (once the R-F option is added in June). That is the only way the system will know that your card is eligible for the $1.35 fare. If you don't register then the system will deduct $2.75. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 21:47:49 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Ancient Mariner on Wed May 18 18:06:26 2022. I use an Apple Watch. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 21:49:50 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by AlM on Wed May 18 18:30:12 2022. The OP and the link from the MTA didn't make it clear how it would work. I imagine you would set up an online account and link your credit cards. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 19 01:47:36 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by gbs on Wed May 18 03:47:07 2022. Nobody including NYCT personnel at the business office seems to know what if any sort of OMNY card is going to replace our employee passes. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 19 08:54:46 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 21:49:50 2022. OK, then my card isn't physically special. But it is still special in the sense that the system can go to a central database and in under a second it can agree to deduct $1.35 from my account instead of $2.75. |
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Posted by Ancient Mariner on Thu May 19 17:45:53 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by AlM on Thu May 19 08:54:46 2022. Yeah, it's all pretty amazing, but then this is 2022, so high bandwith/high tech processes are no longer all that rare. The system can read your bank card number, check to see if it's registered as a reduced fare account, and then unlock the turnstile for you. After that it can send the $1.35 charge to your bank; but before that it will check to see if you've hit your 12 ride cap for the week, and if you have, there will be no additional charge.This (fare capping) is the big plus associated with registering your card or you iphone or whatever device you're carrying. Anyone who prefers to use a standalone OMNY card is welcome to do that, but it seems like a suboptimal choice to me. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 19 17:55:12 2022, in response to Re: One more thing - - Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by Ancient Mariner on Thu May 19 17:45:53 2022. Anyone who prefers to use a standalone OMNY card is welcome to do that, but it seems like a suboptimal choice to me.I can think of a very narrow reason. If you have a transit card at work, and your employment runs out, you need to unload your remaining credit onto an OMNI card. And again, my main credit card has a large credit limit. I don't want anyone to see where I keep it and definitely don't want to take it out of my pocket in the subway. I keep my metrocard less well protected. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Fri May 20 20:07:27 2022, in response to Re: Reduced fare OMNY starts sometime in June, posted by randyo on Thu May 19 01:47:36 2022. Nobody including NYCT personnel at the business office seems to know what if any sort of OMNY card is going to replace our employee passes.ANS: NYCT already has proximity (Tap) ID cards for employees to enter MTA buildings. The NYCT ID tap cards are not for transportation, as it states on the face of the card. However, with the deployment of KRONOS time clocks through out the entire MTA system, those clocks will accept a proximity tap card. The present employee ID Metro card is used to swipe at turnstiles, buses, and at MTA KRONOS time card clocks. A replacement for the employee, and retiree (Pensioner) Metro ID card will follow the format of the present Employee tap card. Employees/Retirees will begin to see new transportation pass/KRONOS replacements in late 2023. |
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