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Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 15:08:22 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu May 26 22:46:04 2022. It's quite likely he has a disability. When I once complained about his paragraphing style he claimed he couldn't do it any other way. Let's drop it no matter how much more he posts. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun May 29 15:39:21 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Sun May 29 15:08:22 2022. There are single-click "reader mode" add-ons that work when enabled for posts here. Many browsers have it as a built-in feature, particularly on mobile. An increased font size and wide margins go a long way toward making up for a lack of properly broken up paragraphs. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 29 15:56:47 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by randyo on Sun May 29 02:34:50 2022. It's NOT "critical" here! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 29 17:53:36 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Sun May 29 15:08:22 2022. IAWTP! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun May 29 21:08:51 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 29 15:56:47 2022. no its not~ |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 29 22:38:08 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by randyo on Sun May 29 02:34:50 2022. There are no T/O trainees here (AFAIK), so RR N-S-E-W directions are not critical for discussions, be it trivial or otherwise on this message board. YOur arrogance towards this subject is far greater than any "Ignorance" |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon May 30 12:45:45 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 29 22:38:08 2022. +900 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 30 13:46:18 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 29 22:38:08 2022. Seconded!!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 30 15:08:15 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 29 22:38:08 2022. I'm sorry, but I just don't take it that way. He's a railroad man who tells us the proper terminology for the NYC subway system |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon May 30 16:21:08 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 30 15:08:15 2022. Fine. Hes entitled to use proper terminology anytime he wants. But don't hit us over the head with it. And don't imply a lack of intelligence shows when the RR directions are not used on this message board. Its more of an indifference actually.Also, one that uses a compass instead of RR direction doesn't make them less of railfan |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 30 18:09:12 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 30 15:08:15 2022. Just about everyone here knows what railroad north is. He simply won't accept that we know the correct railroad terminology and choose not to use it here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 30 18:59:13 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Mon May 30 18:09:12 2022. He is also has a bug up his butt about how the modern C should be the AA and the B should be the DD. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 30 20:21:23 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 30 18:59:13 2022. I find that one less remarkable. Not nearly as Dan Lawrence-like. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 30 21:04:41 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon May 30 16:21:08 2022. Yes, you also have a valid point as well. We don't gave to be experts to enjoy a hobby. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon May 30 21:36:46 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 30 21:04:41 2022. Exactly |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon May 30 21:38:43 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Mon May 30 20:21:23 2022. I don't think his issues are Dan Lawrence-like (i.e. Alzheimer's/dementia). More like OCD maybe. Of course, I am not a medical or psychological expert. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 31 04:23:23 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 30 18:59:13 2022. Actually, the current B cannot be designated as a DD since under the single/double letter system only trains that have absolutely no express running anywhere on their route can be designated with double letters. Since the B runs exp on both 6th Ave and the Brighton Lin it has to carry a single letter. The problem comes in since there really can’t be 2 D services since it would be more confusing than the split A service between Lefferts and Rockaway. In a case like that one of the currently unused letters like the K or the V could be used. Other than that, the B could be rebadged as the D and the D could get back its pre Chrystie T designation. Then instead of using the T for the full SAS, either the K or the V could be used for that service if and when it ever comes to fruition. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue May 31 14:37:38 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by randyo on Tue May 31 04:23:23 2022. Much as I liked the single/double designation scheme, the merged B division just has too many combinations to stick with the design. The need for at least one yard near a terminal to reduce deadheads, and the rider demands for particular routes (insisting on a B'way-Brighton rather than 6th Ave-Brighton) are more important than preserving a route naming scheme. As an example, a particular bus route near where I live has been 72P (for Point) became 73 when a new guy became director of planning only to then become 72M (as in MacDonald Ave which leads to the Point neighborhood) with zero change in actual route. A completely stupid expense of re-badging every bus stop sign on the 10+ mile route as well as the physical sign rolls, then the digital programming when the older fleet were scrapped. None of that nonsense gave riders a single extra frequency, greater schedule adherence, or faster throughput.While I am not a fan of 'color' systems especially when multiple routes run on a trunk segment, at least there are more colors than usable alphabet letters. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 31 14:46:02 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by randyo on Tue May 31 04:23:23 2022. only trains that have absolutely no express running anywhere on their route can be designated with double lettersNot understanding. The AA had As and Ds running express on all/part of its route. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 14:50:39 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Tue May 31 14:46:02 2022. The AA was all local. A train that’s partially express is not a double letter. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 31 15:23:29 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 14:50:39 2022. Yes, but the AA train has the A express running on its route.So you're saying what he meant is for a train to qualify for the double letter, that train must never run express anywhere. That makes total sense. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 31 15:34:03 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Tue May 31 15:23:29 2022. "...that train must never run express anywhere. That makes total sense."Like the GG. Wasn't that the way the lettering system was set up originally? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 15:45:29 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Tue May 31 15:23:29 2022. Re: your first sentence, that has nothing to do with what Randy was saying. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 31 16:15:01 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 14:50:39 2022. The QB was. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 16:34:47 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 31 16:15:01 2022. Which is when the whole system began to break down. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 31 16:37:57 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 15:45:29 2022. But if you read what he wrote, it was the obvious interpretation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 17:55:35 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Tue May 31 16:37:57 2022. No, it isn’t. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue May 31 18:32:11 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 17:55:35 2022. I think AlM interpreted it as "only trains that have absolutely no expresses running anywhere on their route can be designated with double letters". |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 31 18:49:02 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 17:55:35 2022. All depends on how you define the word "route."I think of the A train and AA (now C) running on the same route from 168th to Canal. You and Randy obviously don't. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue May 31 19:17:11 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by AlM on Tue May 31 18:49:02 2022. Given some IND express tracks actually have separate tunnels... |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 2 02:59:12 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 31 16:15:01 2022. The QB was an intersting case. At the time the post Chrystie version of the QB was created, I mentioned to someone in some degree of authority that the train was mislabeled since it ran exp in Manhattan and should be designated as simply a Q. He insisted that since the train was a lcl on the Brighton Line it should be labeled as a “local.” He also pointed out a vagary in the old BMT service patterns in which when the Brighton exps stopped running and the Brighton lcls operated via the bridge, they actually ran exp in Manhattan. It seems that the BMT had a different standard for naming their routes from the iND and when the 2 divisions merged, the TA ended up with a badly mixed alphabet soup. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 2 15:48:30 2022, in response to Re: Guess The Location...easy peasey (maybe), posted by Elkeeper on Sat May 28 14:46:48 2022. To be fair, it's no worse than some other eccentricities, and at least it's on topic. |
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