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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 16 16:43:32 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 16 12:49:36 2022. Me too. |
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Posted by Ble-nimx on Sun Jan 16 17:20:22 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 13 08:01:13 2022. I have the belief that because they received 3 to 4 major overhauls of flooring and picture window seals as well as 100% stainless construction, they did survive the acid car washes better than other cars. I did see the inners of a pair that was in process of break apart at SIMS in Newark a couple of years back. The skin and floor structure cracking I saw indicate they really should not consider going over 40 years on a car again. They were lucky the 44s needed to leave first. When they skin the cats you see what the TA misses. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 16 19:51:44 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Ble-nimx on Sun Jan 16 17:20:22 2022. They aged fast on the J. In just one year you could see the difference being mostly outdoors vs underground.All the underground on the E and C no doubt helped extend the R32 lifespan. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Jan 16 20:42:35 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 16 19:51:44 2022. Problem was, in the summer months, the A/C struggled to keep up in the hot tunnels. Probably one reason they went to the Eastern Division, mostly outside once leaving Manhattan. I don't know if that was just an R-32 problem, or on all the SMEEs that had A/C installed during GOH. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 16 21:28:53 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Jan 16 20:42:35 2022. True. A/C was overworked.In the summer the E terminals, both Parsons E, and WTC were brutally hot. NYCT has a policy at terminals to conserve energy. "Partial close down". A train at a terminal will close all doors but one(crew door) in each car. I think someone said the reason the R32 went to the J instead of Broadway BMT was to avoid Montague tubes. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 16 23:02:06 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 16 21:28:53 2022. It’s certainly a case of indifference because they were old. At this point things could last indefinitely if there was an effort. I am sure the efforts were swayed toward the newest cars.Not the old subterranean R-32s. Or 42s. It’s human nature |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 17 03:11:54 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 16 12:49:36 2022. Yes.They WERE BMT cars. But Southern Division cars. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 17 09:13:28 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 16 21:28:53 2022. I think someone said the reason theR32 went to the J instead of Broadway BMT was to avoid Montague tubes. Apparently (this has been mentioned here), the Hurricane (Supersotmr?) Sandy repairs to Montague no longer allowed R-32s or $-42s to traverse Montague. So there was that to consider. I guess if those types needed to get to CIY, they had to use the |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:05:40 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 17 03:11:54 2022. Yes. They first served the Q, QB, N, T and TT lines. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:09:11 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 16 23:02:06 2022. The R-1/9s went through the same treatment. "We're getting new cars anyway, so screw the old stuff." |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:09:57 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 17 09:13:28 2022. If only they'd installed those conduits in a different location.... |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jan 17 21:56:01 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:09:57 2022. It requiresseriously stupiddesigners and installers to degade clearancesin tunnels. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 17 23:17:18 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jan 17 21:56:01 2022. In other words, MTA 🙄 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jan 18 01:07:36 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 17 23:17:18 2022. unfortunately not unique. Muni supposedly custom built a clearance mock up to test out dimensions for the Breda cars before they were built. But, after early deliveries a couple of doors were knocked off because of insufficient clearance from the platform at the Castro Street Station. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 18 16:07:58 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:05:40 2022. It may have been the QT instead of the QB. Pre-Chrystie, I only remember seeing R-27/30s on the QB. But yes to the others. |
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Posted by bzuck on Tue Jan 18 16:23:59 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 18 16:07:58 2022. Once I saw an R27 on the QT pre Christie. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 18 18:42:54 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 18 16:07:58 2022. Since the Q and QB never operated at the same time, there's a good chance they re-signed some R-32 trainsets from one to the other to meet schedule requirements |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 18 18:43:33 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jan 18 01:07:36 2022. Oops! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 18 20:27:58 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:09:57 2022. Yes, the Sea Beach would have had 32s til the end! |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Wed Jan 19 06:55:08 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 17 20:05:40 2022. "They first served the Q, QB, N, T and TT lines."Also on the M Nassau Street-Brighton Express. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 07:21:29 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Wed Jan 19 06:55:08 2022. Those lines had a few R27/30's to help out at rush hours.Pre-Chrystie, I only remember R27's on the Saturday QB. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jan 19 19:14:19 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 07:21:29 2022. I remember seeing an R-27/30 QB as we raced it along Broadway on a Saturday in the fall of 1967. |
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