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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 18:55:02 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by WayneJay on Sat Dec 18 18:18:11 2021. Same curve, no rain about a year later (March 1979) 
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 21:12:15 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:47:22 2021. Man I like that too. Saving that one ! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 21:13:27 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 18:55:02 2021. Is that a 46? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 18 21:25:49 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021. One of my favorite R 40 pics is shown here laid up like a sleeping snake in the middle track between 30th Ave & Astoria Blvd. Acela on the Hell Gate viaduct completes the scene in the backround. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 21:58:14 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 18 21:25:49 2021. Great description. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 21:59:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 18 21:25:49 2021. That’s pretty good |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 22:27:29 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 21:59:30 2021. I was thinking "slinky" but snake is better.That train better have a hand brake on every end. It's on a grade on each end. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 22:31:59 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 22:27:29 2021. Yeah man |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Dec 18 22:36:05 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021. Awesome set of pics! My favorite is the one of the pre GOH R40M alongside the R68. Those R68s still run on the D till this very day. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Dec 18 22:39:56 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 18:55:02 2021. If that's an R44, this same setup was common a little over a decade later on the A & C lines. The whole Cadillac luxury vibe of the R44s made the A Express seem like such an upgrade over the local C and its loud R32s. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 23:07:17 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 21:13:27 2021. looking at the interior cab door, it looks like an R-44. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 18 23:15:23 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Dec 18 22:39:56 2021. And the R44s made people forget quickly the loud R10s which once dominated the A line for so many years. They got a reprieve along with many R16 cars when they had to be taken out of storage when the R46s had to have their trucks replaced due to cracks but eventually got scrapped. Before the R32s got to run on the C the last R10s and R27/30s preceded them in the tradition of having the oldest cars in the system running on that line. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 19 01:33:46 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Dec 18 22:39:56 2021. HaSome folks here don’t agree with Cadillac destination of R-44 or 46 |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 19 01:34:48 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 23:07:17 2021. Ok |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 19 03:51:47 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 19 01:33:46 2021. Some folks here don’t agree with Cadillac destination of R-44 or 46We all like what we like!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 19 07:07:56 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Dec 18 22:39:56 2021. That is an R-46. The plug door is just one give away. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Dec 19 07:39:18 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Dec 18 21:13:27 2021. It's an R-44. The R-46 had a small rectangular door under each headlight. I presume it was to allow access to some electrical equipment. The R-44's had a smooth front. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by zac on Sun Dec 19 08:16:54 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 18 23:15:23 2021. And the CC before that. My last trips on the R1, R4, R10, R30 and R32 were on the C/CC.As for the R44/R46 being the "Cadillacs" of the system, maybe when they were newer, but now they are that old beat up Caddy in the driveway that your dad would take around the block once a month and everyone knew it from the sound. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 19 08:34:32 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 19 07:07:56 2021. That is an R-46. The plug door is just one give away.R-44's were roaming the (D) lines when I took that photo. One way you can tell an R-44 from an R-46 is the front roll sign. The R-44's had a white circle around the letter, while the R-46's did not. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by zac on Sun Dec 19 08:39:53 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 17:32:36 2021. And I thought of one more, Woodlawn. I went to Lehman for a year and while I've been to BPB countless times I never went past. There's nothing but dead people at the end!Most of the lines I rode out of need, not railfanning. Most of it when I was much younger. But my first time at 135th/Lenox was a few years ago when I was riding my bike in New Jersey and my partner for the day lived in The Bronx and we parted ways there. My plan was to just ride from there through Central Park and catch the Q at 57th (pre 2nd Ave) but once I'd stopped that was it. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 09:02:19 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 22:27:29 2021. I was thinking the same thing. How many hand brakes are required to be set when you park a train? Does it vary by equipment or terrain or it there a set rule? Just wonderin. |
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Posted by Ble-nimx on Sun Dec 19 09:57:54 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 18 23:07:17 2021. One easy tipoff the R46 had to mdc barrel keyed pockets on each side at bottom of fiberglass bonnets for hostler controls. The R44 did not |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 10:17:22 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 09:02:19 2021. "Sufficient".I'm not trying to be a wise ads either. That is the rule. The t/o makes the decision and is responsible to put enough on so that the train doesn't roll away. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 10:24:46 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 10:17:22 2021. No "smart ads" inference taken. So it a judgement call on the part of the T/O. That might leave the T/O subject to discipline if the train rolls away & supervision disagrees with his definition of "sufficient" |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 13:04:04 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 10:24:46 2021. Damn spell check. I didn't notice "ass" became "ads" (it did it again!).But exactly. Make sure it doesn't roll away. Handbrakes and their application by some t/o's piss me off. One tight handbrake is better than 6 "pussy" handbrake. Pain in the ass to release because it doesn't fully release and you have to get your reverser into the teeth to bring the counterweight all the way up. With a good tight handbrake, the counterweight comes all the way up upon releasing. The new techs have automatic parking brakes. And they work too! As much as I don't like them, they would have saved me 2 hernia surgeries. That's what tight handbrake can do to the applied. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 19 13:25:01 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 18 12:40:51 2021. They blended fairly well from a stylistic point of view, as did the R-32s and R-38s. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 19 13:26:01 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 19 08:34:32 2021. Plus the R-44s had a carbon steel band that needed to be painted while the R-46s had an all-stainless steel outer skin. |
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Posted by Ble-nimx on Sun Dec 19 13:41:24 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 13:04:04 2021. Those old low numbered 100 series flat cars with kick tooth steering wheels were like fighting with arnines. I don't miss that |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 19 16:36:48 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Ble-nimx on Sun Dec 19 09:57:54 2021. 
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 17:55:03 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 19 16:36:48 2021. # of door open lights on the sides??. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 18:01:39 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 17:55:03 2021. Yes. The door fault lights. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 18:02:51 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 18:01:39 2021. Thats what they are called?? Thanks |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 19 18:26:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Dec 18 22:36:05 2021. Awesome set of pics! My favorite is the one of the pre GOH R40M alongside the R68. Those R68s still run on the D till this very day.That was the first set of R-68's in service, but not the first day IIRC. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 18:29:19 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 19 18:02:51 2021. Yes.Car fault lights are red and tell you which car has door problems. Yellow tells you which door has the problem. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 19:36:34 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 13:04:04 2021. Ouch.Did tech trains motivate you to retire? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 21:02:43 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 19:36:34 2021. No. But it motivated me to pick the G. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Dec 19 21:18:25 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 19 13:25:01 2021. When I was a kid, I originally thought that the R-40Ms were the same as the R-42s (I didn't know about contract numbers back then, so I made up my own names, so the 40Ms and the 42s were part of a class I called "A/C" (for obvious reasons, that was before I found out that the last 100 Slants also had A/C, I never rode the 10 R-38s that also supposedly had it)). But they did look very much alike. Now I know that the 40Ms had thinner striping in the blue bands than the 42s, but that was too subtle for me as a kid. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 21:54:53 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 21:02:43 2021. what did you not like about the tech trains? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 22:44:56 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 19 21:54:53 2021. The placement of the controller. When I broke in on the R143 and later on the R160, my fingers and right hand were killing me while operating it.I also didn't like the extra step in climbing up and down off the train. My feet had no coordination for whatever reason. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Dec 19 23:01:16 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021. EXCELLENT HISTORICAL PHOTOS |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 20 00:45:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 19 22:44:56 2021. I agree. The master controller should be centered. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Dec 20 06:46:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Dec 19 23:01:16 2021. EXCELLENT HISTORICAL PHOTOSThank you ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Dec 20 07:19:35 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 17 20:02:11 2021. Awesome set of pics!!3 thoughts:1) I love the pic of the D in a summer downpour 2) The 1988 pic of the K train was 1 week before the route was eliminated. When did they issue the notices of the Archer service changes? I actually didn't see anything until about mid-week (Approximately Dec 7th) 3) I notice that the letter "J" in the last pic is quite different from the "J" on the R42s- those Js had a much shorter hook on the letter. I don't think I ever rode a post GOH J/M/Z with an R40M on the lead or last car.. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Dec 20 09:06:50 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 20 00:45:30 2021. Wasn't it centered on the R-44 and R-46? Wonder why they changed it |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 20 12:19:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Dec 20 09:06:50 2021. Yes. The controllers on the R44/46 were centered.The reason for the controllers by the cab window R143/160 is because of the screens. IIRC one for the train consist and diagnostics, the other for CBTC. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 20 18:47:09 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 20 12:19:30 2021. That’s BS since the controllers on the IRT’s R-142s are centered and the controllers on the R-211s are also centered. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 20 20:22:18 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 20 18:47:09 2021. It's not bs. He is right.Management knew the IRT would see little to no CBTC or OPTO for years to come. They had big plans for the L line. So the control was placed to the side. Since then they have gone back to putting the master controller where it belongs. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Dec 20 22:54:00 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by zac on Sat Dec 18 08:48:50 2021. Yeah those coupons got me into quite a few games back in the day. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 21 01:41:39 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 18 16:53:04 2021. One of the first times I remember was my mother be able to wwalking me up to the front car to look out the RFw. She also brought along a small overnigt suitcase for me to stand on. :) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 21 01:42:58 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-40M - The Post Slants, posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 21 01:41:39 2021. We lived a bus ride from the E & F at 179th. |
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