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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020 Perhaps someone may chime in and explain what the Golden Jubilee was all about. 
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 10:02:00 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. Did they ever repaint it green or did the grime on it eventually make it look like dirty shit brown like all the rest of them ? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 9 10:43:25 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. I believe it refers to the 1954-55 half-century anniversary year of the NYC subways. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Apr 9 10:44:02 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. I wasn't around in 1954, but for the diamond jubilee (75 years) they had tokens with a little diamond cutout marked 1904-1979... |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Apr 9 10:45:12 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. Yes, it was celebrating the "5th Avenue Jubilee" |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Apr 9 10:48:31 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. 5th Avenue Parade Salutes Golden Jubilee; March by Torchlight Draws 150,000 to Association Fete 5TH AVE. SALUTES A GOLDEN JUBILEE Golden Windows Displayed |
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Posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 11:08:45 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Apr 9 10:48:31 2020. October 1957. |
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Posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 11:19:33 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Apr 9 10:45:12 2020. 50th Anniversary of the 5th Association which was founded in 1907. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Apr 9 11:51:29 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 9 10:43:25 2020. yes it does. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Apr 9 11:51:33 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 9 10:43:25 2020. yes it does. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Apr 9 11:51:36 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 9 10:43:25 2020. yes it does. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Apr 9 13:23:41 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. Wonder if my grandfather ever operated in that car, his last assignment was the 15. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Apr 9 13:53:15 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Apr 9 13:23:41 2020. I wonder if my grandpa did |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 9 17:43:13 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. I believe there were more than just one of each type of car painted gold. It was one of one type and 2 of the other. I just can't recall whether it was 2 R-16s and 1 R-17 or the other way around. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Apr 9 18:03:07 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. There was also a subway or elevated car from 1907 in the parade as well.435 hydrants, 3 miles of a center line, 650 trash baskets and two buses were given the Gold paint treatment. The Golden Jubilee parade, held October 10th, 1957, was the 50th Anniversary celebration of the 5th Avenue Association, which was succeeded in 1993 by the Fifth Avenue Business Improvement District. If you are a NY Times digital subscriber: here's an article from 1957 about the parade. --Mark |
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Posted by murray1575 on Thu Apr 9 19:31:06 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Apr 9 18:03:07 2020. The 1907 car was IRT Deck Roof Hi-V 3662 which has been preserved. It was one of an order of 50 cars built by ACF. None of these cars ever were converted to MUDC so they could only be used at the ends of trains. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 19:33:55 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 9 10:43:25 2020. I believe it refers to the 1954-55 half-century anniversary year of the NYC subways.Thanks JZ. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 9 19:51:08 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. Wonder if they crews had a nickname for the car?If management and supervision prioritized making it a head car(operating motor) instead of in the middle of the consist? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:16:01 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by pragmatist on Thu Apr 9 10:44:02 2020. I still have one of those tokens! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:17:03 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Apr 9 13:23:41 2020. If he was a motorman between 1955 and 1967, then he probably did. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:18:09 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by murray1575 on Thu Apr 9 19:31:06 2020. The deck roof cars never had fish belly sills, either. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 20:58:03 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 9 19:51:08 2020. I'd call it "Goldie Locks". |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Apr 9 22:06:11 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:17:03 2020. That pretty much covers it. He started as a trolley operator, I think in the early 40s (he apparently was already working as such when World War II broke out, so he was deemed "essential" and not called to the fight). At some point, he drove a bus (possibly when his line may have changed to bus). He didn't like that much, so he took the test for motorman, passed the first time and worked in that position the rest of the time. Unfortunately, he was diagnosed with stomach cancer in early 1965 and died in late March of that year.My parents and I lived with him and my grandmother until the summer of 1964, when they purchased their own house. When I was 4 (I think) we all rode with him on his 15 train. A picture was taken and it definitely was an R-16. I hope we still have it somewhere, probably in my grandmother's belongings that my mom and I packed up after she died in 1976. It's all in storage, I guess I'll find it eventually. I'll post it whenever I find it (assuming SubChat is still around by then). |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Apr 9 22:21:03 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:16:01 2020. I wasn't living in NY then, but my family got one for me. I still have it as well. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Apr 9 22:30:06 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Apr 9 22:06:11 2020. Thank you for sharing your family memories! |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:20:42 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:18:09 2020. Correct, but that was probably because they were designed from the start with provisions for center doors if needed which did happen. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:31:13 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:17:03 2020. Since that is one of the 50 R-16s assigned to the IND for A service, it probably spent its early years on the A Line which would be where the NYCTA would want it to be for publicity’s sake. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 04:47:57 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:20:42 2020. But even though later cars were designed and built with center doors, they still came with sills. You would have thought they'd tweak the structural design so that the sills weren't needed. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Apr 10 08:38:33 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Apr 9 18:03:07 2020. Mark: Glad to hear that you're okay. Thanks for that interesting post. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by northshore on Fri Apr 10 09:46:35 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 11:19:33 2020. Correct |
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Posted by northshore on Fri Apr 10 09:55:29 2020, in response to [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Apr 9 09:41:34 2020. Also for the Fifth Avenue Association 50th Anniversary in 1957, there was also a new 1957 NYCTA GM TDH-5105 bus #7000 in all gold.Also Fifth Avenue Caoch redid a GM TDH-5104 in gold and aquamarine exterior with matching vinyl gold and aquamarine upholstered seats inside. A beauty! |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Apr 10 14:42:06 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Apr 10 08:38:33 2020. Yes, Mr. IRTRedbirdR33, doing fine ... I simply don't post very often. Good to see you here, too!--Mark |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Apr 10 16:19:49 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by northshore on Fri Apr 10 09:55:29 2020. Also for the Fifth Avenue Association 50th Anniversary in 1957, there was also a new 1957 NYCTA GM TDH-5105 bus #7000 in all gold.Also Fifth Avenue Caoch redid a GM TDH-5104 in gold and aquamarine exterior with matching vinyl gold and aquamarine upholstered seats inside. A beauty! I've yet to see photos of these buses. Maybe one day. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Apr 10 16:28:52 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Apr 10 16:19:49 2020. I would love to see that photo, myself! |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 17:33:44 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 04:47:57 2020. It may have been than the IRT felt that it wasn’t needed when they designed the decks and they found out with subsequent orders that it was so it was installed on the Hedleys and later cars. |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Fri Apr 10 23:30:10 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Apr 10 16:19:49 2020. Could it be this one from nycsubway.org? http://gallery.bustalk.info/displayimage.php?album=46&pos=24 [I haven't been successful with hyperlinks] |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Apr 11 02:33:16 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Apr 10 14:42:06 2020. greetings to both of you. spent the day baking Russian Easter Bread (kulich) not very religious but a great excuse for a sweet andense bread.rail content? well in NYC one might go to Brighton Beach in search of a Russian Bakery. essential? to each their own. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 11 04:27:29 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Apr 11 02:33:16 2020. I'd find a Russian Orthodox church still in existence and a Russian bakery should be nearby.Ridgewood Queens should have one left. |
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Posted by northshore on Sat Apr 11 07:29:48 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Gold R-16, posted by X-Astorian on Fri Apr 10 23:30:10 2020. Yes. This is the Fifth Avenue Coach 50th Anniversary Fifth Avenue Association Bus from 1957 |
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