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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 08:34:10 2020 Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1940 – The Book of First Runs Manhattan, New York New York City Board of Transportation IND Division The first R-9’s are placed in service. They are part of a 153 car order. Cars 1650-1701 are built by the American Car and Foundry Company. Cars 1702-1802 are built by the Pressed Steel Car Company. Source: Electric Railroaders Association Bulletin /November 2015, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1950 – The Book of Last Runs The Bronx, New York New York City Board of Transportation IRT Division The IRT Westchester Avenue Branch is taken out of service. This line connected the 3rd Avenue El station at 149th Street with the West Farms Line at Jackson Avenue. Since 1946 it has only been used for non-revenue moves. Source: New York Division Bulletin / April 1987, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1956 – The Book of Last Runs Strafford, Pennsylvania Philadelphia Suburban Transportation Company Service is discontinued on the Strafford Branch of the Norristown Line. The following stations on the branch are closed: Radnor, Ithan, Wayne-St. Davids, West Wayne, Sugartown Road (original terminal) and Strafford (PRR station). Note that Radnor station on the Norristown Line is still open. Source: “Red Arrow Line in Color” (Morning Sun Books /2014) by Mr. Douglas E. Peters Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1957 – The Book of Last Runs Jersey City, New Jersey Erie Railroad Most Erie Railroad rush hour commuter trains are shifted from to the Hoboken Terminal of the Lackawanna Railroad. Non-Rush hour and through (long distance) passenger trains had been operating out of Hoboken since October 13, 1956. The only trains still serving the Pavonia Avenue Terminal are those of the Northern Branch and the Susquehanna Railroad. Source: “Erie Railroad in Color” (Morning Sun Books / 1991) by Mr. David R. Sweetland Tuscarora Almanac - March 23, 1968 - The Book of First Runs Queens, New York New York City Transit Authority IND Division The first train of R-40's entered service today on the "F" Line. The consist was (s) 4351-0, 4359-8, 4352-3 and 4354-5. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 1968 Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1981 – The Book of Last Runs Manhattan, New York New York City Transit Authority IRT Division The Lenox Avenue Line will be closed at nights and on weekend for about a year to repair the tunnel floor. No. 2 trains will run on the Lexington Avenue Line during these times and No. 3 trains will terminate at 110th Street-Lenox Avenue. Shuttle bus service will also be provided. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 1981 Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 17:11:45 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 08:34:10 2020. Was March 23, 1968 a Saturday or Sunday?Because I notice that's an 8 car train. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 17:32:16 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 23 17:11:45 2020. March 23, 1968 was a Saturday Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Mar 23 17:49:36 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 08:34:10 2020. Thank you for the details (year and date) of the Bergen Avenue connection's closure, and for also providing the year that operations over it were limited to non-revenue moves. I knew it was sometime after 1945, but I didn't know when.Roger Arcara's el 2nd & 3rd ave. el videos include clips of Composites using this connection. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Mar 23 18:00:05 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 08:34:10 2020. So, demolition of the Bergen Ave. connection would have begun in late 1950, or sometime in 1951?And just above the 149th & 3rd ave station there was that abandoned tower at the junction, unused for so many years, since between 1950 and the structure's demolition*. Simple as its model board may have been, it would have been interesting to see it - probably dated from the WW1 era, when the connection was built as part of the Dual Contracts. *would have been used to signal/control any non-revenue moves (?) between the IRT Wht. Plains Rd. line and the 3rd ave el between 1946-1950 correct? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 18:19:22 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 17:32:16 2020. That sounds like the train I was on. around that time I was the midnight Tw/M at 59/4 in Bkln and after my tour was over, late ERA members George Abere, and Martin Schachne, and I met and grabbed a ride on what was supposed to be the first train of R-40s in passenger service. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 18:22:34 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Express Rider on Mon Mar 23 17:49:36 2020. When the OP mentioned the “Westchester Av” connection, which one was being referred to, the one N/O 149 St or the Bergen Av cutoff which was N/O 143 St? |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Mar 23 18:30:51 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 18:19:22 2020. I met George Abere at a Sunrise Trail meeting a few years ago, and Martin Schachne on a couple of fantrips sometime between 1966 -1970.They were very friendly and willing to share their knowledge of NY Transit history. Both men, true gentlemen. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Mar 23 18:32:45 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 23 18:22:34 2020. Yes, that's right - 3rd ave. el N/O 149th st. was the Westchester connection correct?Then I mixed that up mistakenly with the Bergen Ave. connection. Sorry about that. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Mar 23 20:02:44 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 17:32:16 2020. That's right. I rode on the only JJ train I would ever take, from Elderts Lane to 168th St. and back, on either Sunday the 24th or Sunday the 31st of 1968. There was a recital at Franklin K. Lane HS that day, by a singing family that was touted as the next Von Trapp Family Singers. Sadly, they were panned and faded into obscurity, never to be heard from again. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 24 00:26:22 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Mar 23 20:02:44 2020. My mother was the first (I think) graduating class from Franklin K lane, in 1940. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 24 00:41:20 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Express Rider on Mon Mar 23 18:32:45 2020. Actually, the Westchester Ave spur from 3rd Ave was the final abandonment phase of the Bergen Ave cutoff. Demolition of the cutoff, itself, began in 1949, moving north from the 143rd St station. Since the 3rd Ave el connected to the White Plains Rd line, north of Gun Hill Rd, the Westchester Ave spur was no longer needed. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 24 01:45:27 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 24 00:41:20 2020. Which went first, the one N/O 149 St or the one from 143 St? |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 04:28:17 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by randyo on Tue Mar 24 01:45:27 2020. I found some info about removal dates of both these connectors from a subchat post, written by Joe Frank (with a track map he created) from Feb. 1, 2018 that I saved - cut and pasted into a Wordpad doc.I don't have the computer savvy necessary to transfer Mr. Frank's track map to this post from my Wordpad doc. Thread info, its "current" (as of 2-1-2018) and original subject line follows below, with a paragraph quoted from Mr. Frank's post re - the removal dates for the connectors: Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Feb 1 18:28:27 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] (REMNANTS) was: Delivery Of IRT (1939) World's Fair Cars, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Feb 1 14:04:05 2018. "My map shows the removal of the E.132nd Street IRT EL Yards, removed by 1950, as well as the removal of both the E. 150th Street 2-track connector (in 1951) to the West Farms IRT EL, and the Bergen Cutoff, removed in 1949-50" ----------------------------------------------------------- Joe - Thank you very much for posting this original information back in 2018. If you prefer that people ask for your permission before using any of your material from earlier posts, in a post of their own, I apologize for this time, and will ask you in the future. - Express Rider / "Ed" |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Tue Mar 24 06:20:47 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 04:28:17 2020. Hello Ed (Express Rider)Perfectly OK to use the info I wrote in 2018. Knowledge is useless unless shared ! And thanks for the thought ! Regards - Joe F |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 08:02:33 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Tue Mar 24 06:20:47 2020. You're welcome and thank you again! |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 Photo |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Mar 25 10:25:06 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 08:34:10 2020. IND first in service
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 Photo R/40 |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Mar 25 10:30:02 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 23 08:34:10 2020. R/40 on the "F", no hardware up frony.
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Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 25 16:44:23 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 Photo, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Mar 25 10:25:06 2020. For some reason the IND was for many years hung up on green. The background color of the station entrances was green, the lamp cubes at the street entrances were green and even the track occupancy lights on the model boards in the signal towers were green even though logically they should have been red, or at least white like the BMT. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 Photo R/40 |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 25 16:46:44 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 Photo R/40, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Mar 25 10:30:02 2020. All I get is a “?” in a square and when I try to download by right clicking the mouse,I get a message saying I don’t have permission to view the URL. |
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