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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:11:46 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 11:01:56 2019. No, I am right. It’s not stereotyping because I am referring to a group of people based on their exact practices, and not generalizing. I never claimed that I was talking about “old people.” You made that assumption. You are stereotyping. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:23:34 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Dec 14 10:34:14 2019. Prepaid credit cards cost money. You can have a debit card attached to a checking account, but if you keep a low balance, there are often monthly fees. People don’t realize that it’s expensive to be poor.That having been said, the problem isn’t that the transit agency should cater to people who can’t afford credit/debit cards, but banking should be subsidized for the poor. But that’s another topic. Of course, I also think that there’s merit to being able to use cash to buy things. We are already over-tracked. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:30:42 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 11:09:36 2019. And yet it’s at a notably higher latitude than NYC.* It’s interesting how North America is colder than Europe.*It is the northernmost place that I have ever been. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 12:13:05 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:08:44 2019. They are also stubborn and have their own ideas. Me relatives spent a fortune on Jitterbug dumb phones, despite me explaining Ting. My mother has the same Smartphone as me, but will not use it for anything else than reading e-mail. They can't stand typing on it, even with a stylus. When I visit, I also have to clean up the robo phone messages. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 12:14:18 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:11:46 2019. Seniors are part of our society and should not be demeaned or excluded in any way. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 12:25:19 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:23:34 2019. Gotta research for no min balance and no fee checking accounts, which is hard without the internet. It's easier to find one in NJ rather than NY. I found M&T. But I am wary of them because of the hacking I got last week despite the ATM card having never left the house. It was either them or OMNY got a breach. M&T has a shitty branch structure in NJ (I fund it with online bank to bank transfers) and only one in Manhattan is open on Saturdays, and they downsized from Hudson City's already shitty network.TD just went Contactless from branch-issued cards last month, but there must be a $100 min balance. There is also Unity Bank and Fulton Bank, not common in NYS. But these smaller banks don't offer Contactless cards. Merrill Lynch /Bank of America is still sending out renewed credit cards, expiring in 2025 that are not Contactless. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 12:31:08 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Dec 14 10:34:14 2019. You can tell that to Washington DC, Baltimore, Montreal, Chicago, and Seattle. They all have their own cards and have no plans to get rid of them and can't demand people buy their own debit and credit cards to use the system.. |
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Posted by The silence on Sat Dec 14 12:41:51 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 14 03:13:21 2019. To build on what Spider-pig said;Legal tender means it’s valid to be offered as payment, I as a seller am under no obligation to accept it. Straight from the US Tresuary Department website FAQ. Legal Tender Status I thought that United States currency was legal tender for all debts. Some businesses or governmental agencies say that they will only accept checks, money orders or credit cards as payment, and others will only accept currency notes in denominations of $20 or smaller. Isn't this illegal? The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy. (Underlining mine) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 12:56:13 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 11:09:36 2019. True. I'm sure that there are better examples, but that's the only one that I know for sure. Perhaps S-bahn uses CBTC? I don't know. Moscow? Or is that completely underground? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:05:07 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:30:42 2019. It's much more moderate overall, but it makes sense that London being on a smallish island would be influenced by ocean temps in a manner similar to the Pacific NW.Europe tends to be more moderate, but farther inland places like Moscow are somewhat similar to similar latitudes in NA. Even farther inland and iinm places like Kazakhstan are even less temperate than places of similar latitude in NA. Compare Calgary to Nur-Sultan for example. I know that's Asia, but the Europe-Asia border is fairly arbitrary imo. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 14 13:22:32 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 07:39:48 2019. good. would be nice if one didn't needto get a different card for each city--particularly since many are the same Cubic products w/ different colored plastic. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:25:09 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 14 13:22:32 2019. He means that it works for light rail, buses and commuter trains in that region. It doesn't work in other cities.LA needs to get Metrolink on board (no pun intended) since all of the various bus agencies already accept TAP. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:26:39 2019, in response to Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by The Silence on Wed Dec 11 14:48:45 2019. One of the big points that hasn't been mentioned is how OMNY is forcing banks in NYC to rollout contactless cards. My bank doesn't currently even offer them, but likely will soon due to NYC. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 14 13:37:23 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by The silence on Sat Dec 14 12:41:51 2019. clearly you are correct. too bad "all debts public and private" turns out not to meanwhat it should in plain English. before I bought monthly passes, I would get rid of pennies into the fareboxes because the system counted them. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 13:42:47 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:25:09 2019. Also for Washington State Ferries, which is a very extensive network.The buses go out to Everett, Tacoma, and Port Angeles too. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 13:45:23 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:26:39 2019. I don't know if OMNY is forcing them. Moderate sized banks like TD and M&T did, but the smaller banks, not much. They'll do it when they feel like that. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:58:46 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 13:45:23 2019. They'll feel like it when customers start choosing banks that offer contactless. Anyway I read that's what happened in London. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:40:28 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 12:13:05 2019. Maybe your relatives are, but not everyone is like that. Talk about stereotyping. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:42:10 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 12:14:18 2019. Again, I am not talking about “seniors” as a group. You, on the other hand, are stereotyping by calling them all stubborn and assuming I am talking about seniors when I am only talking about people who refuse to get mobile phones (regardless of age). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:46:42 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 14 13:22:32 2019. accepting contactless credit cards solves this problem without any sort of interagency coordination. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:53:05 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:05:07 2019. It’s not just your opinion, it’s fact. I still call it “Europe” and “Asia,” but those are part of the same continent. They should define continent like they defined planet.Moscow is significantly farther north than any major city in North America. It’s at 55°N. That parallel passes through northern Labrador. Once you get to Central Asia, it begins to be like North America, I think. And I think that western North America is warmer than East Asia. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:55:16 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 13:26:39 2019. My only contactless card is a credit card from BofA, which they sent to replace my existing unexpired card, and without me asking. The only two times I used OMNY was by Apple Pay. I prefer to use that to a physical credit card. Many people have mobile wallets and don’t realize it. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 16:09:56 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:30:42 2019. All the doing of the Gulf Stream.And in eastern Europe, it has less effect, which is why Moscow is so much colder than Oslo. And by the time you get to central Asia, the oceans have minimal effect at all. Ulan Bator has far greater seasonal temperature swings than any place in North America. Though even in North America, the typical summer high in the Fraser Valley of BC, at latitude 50, is close to 100 degrees Fahrenheit. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:17:45 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:40:28 2019. Saying stubborn is not nearly as serious as calling them "luddites". |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:19:00 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:42:10 2019. A dumb cell phone will never get you through a turnstile, and that is all some people can afford. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:25:06 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:55:16 2019. My mother just got a new BofA card for her Merrill Lynch account, which is a distinct entity within BofA. It is not Contactless. They'll just keep sending out old cards until inventory is depleted.About 12 years ago, I got a new credit card from Chase that was decorated as Bank One with their defunct phone number on it, even though they had merged. That is because when they merged, Bank One (Jamie Dimon came from) took over Chase's credit card operations. (Chase banking operations were actually taken over by Chemical's in that merger). |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 17:25:52 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:19:00 2019. So get a card. What's the problem? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:26:50 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 14:53:05 2019. It has to do with prevalent wind currents and ocean effects. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 14 17:31:45 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 11:30:42 2019. The Pacific Northwest is warmer than corresponding east coast latitudes as well. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 17:33:42 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 14 17:31:45 2019. Not in the summer. It's really more moderate. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:38:09 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 17:25:52 2019. OMNY card ? No such thing for a year or two.Contactless cards are rare. 11.7% of NYC households were unbanked in 2013. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:38:58 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 17:33:42 2019. Seattle summers have been getting very hot and very dry with droughts. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:09:32 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:38:09 2019. So use a metrocard. No one is being forced. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:10:38 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:38:58 2019. Summer has always been the dry season for the west coast. Seattle was hot this year, but not last. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:12:37 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:10:38 2019. And still nowhere near east coast, Midwest, or even Montreal hot, which was my point. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 18:37:20 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:17:45 2019. How do you figure? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 18:38:15 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:09:32 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 18:47:41 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 14 17:31:45 2019. The west coast is cooler than the east in the summer and the interior is warmer.Portland is cooler than Montreal, which is cooler than Pasco, even though all are at about 45-46 degrees latitude. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:53:02 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 18:47:41 2019. Much less humid out west as well. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 19:01:42 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:53:02 2019. When it's warm. :) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 19:07:11 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 18:37:20 2019. One expression is a subjective description of personality. The is calling them genuinely stupid and is very nasty. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 19:28:43 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 19:07:11 2019. But calling them luddites is an objective description of their beliefs. Luddism doesn't imply stupidity. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Dec 14 20:18:18 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 19:28:43 2019. I thought so too, but at the very top of Google's results for "Luddite" is sense 1 of a dictionary definition, labeled "derogatory." So a good number of people must feel as Joe V does. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 20:53:15 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Dec 14 20:18:18 2019. But "stubborn" is also derogatory. Unless you think it's a virtue. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 14 20:56:00 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 19:28:43 2019. Actually, Luddite is a bit extreme. The alleged Luddites didn't just refuse to use looms; they smashed them.But I wouldn't be particularly insulted by being called a Luddite for some of my more technologically unadvanced behaviors; I would just laugh at it. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 15 06:31:52 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 19:28:43 2019. It is a very derogatory term and you throw it around far to readily. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 15 06:33:11 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 20:53:15 2019. Simply means resistant to change, and far less negative connotation. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 15 06:34:32 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 14 18:10:38 2019. Whenever I was in Portland, which has not been for 12 years, it rained or was cloudy every effing day, and that was summer. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Dec 15 11:56:54 2019, in response to Re: Losing trains in the slush, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 15 06:34:32 2019. According to Wikipedia Portland averages 0.65 inches of rain per month in July and august with rain occurring 4 days per month on average. Sounds like you have been very unlucky. It happens. |
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Posted by The silence on Sun Dec 15 11:58:35 2019, in response to Re: Omny expansion and Byford is angry at Thales, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 14 17:38:09 2019. Contactless is rare because no one has tried such a large project to encourage it yet in the US. It was rare in the UK until Transport for London began accepting it. Get a major market to accept it and that’s the keyhole you need. |
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