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Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist! |
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Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019 https://www.nytransitmuseum.org/programs/list/?tribe_paged=2&tribe_event_display=listEquipment rundown: Arnines BMT Standards Gate Cars IRT R33s hooked up to B div R38s |
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Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:27:16 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. I think this is the first time an IRT car and an B div car ran in the same consist in passenger service. I doubt the doors will open on the 33s cause of the gap. |
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Posted by jrf2 on Thu Sep 19 12:39:25 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. I thought the R-32's were the 'Bluebirds' since the doors were blue. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 19 12:41:39 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. The grapevine says R-1 #103 will be among the Arnines. Can anybody confirm the rumors? |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 19 13:03:59 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by jrf2 on Thu Sep 19 12:39:25 2019. I thought the R-32's were the 'Bluebirds' since the doors were blue. The "Bluebirds" were the R-33's and R-36's with the picture windows that were assigned to the Flushing Line in 1964-65. The original "Bluebirds" were six three compartment articulated units built for the BMT in 1938-39. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 19 13:05:12 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. Thank you for this information. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 19 13:12:56 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. I tried my best working on 9308. |
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Posted by Allan on Thu Sep 19 14:16:07 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. Sorry that I will have to miss that. I look forward to the photos that will be posted here |
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Posted by jrf2 on Thu Sep 19 14:23:40 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 19 13:03:59 2019. OKI know they had a nickname but I can't remember what it was. |
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Posted by davesgcr on Thu Sep 19 15:29:39 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. I am coming over especially for this - (from St Albans UK) does anyone have the schedules for the runs please ?Staying in Central Brooklyn and immensely looking forward to Saturday. One final question - how are the R32s ? - and before leaving for Boston on Sunday , plan to get some (last) trips on them - any information on their disposition / operation would be hugely appreciated. I will wear my St Albans South signal box cap (maroon colour) , so would be good to meet / shake hands with any of you afficionados. Please do not ask me about Boris Johnson if I see any of you. A good reason to leave the UK for 10 days. |
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Posted by The silence on Thu Sep 19 15:59:13 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by jrf2 on Thu Sep 19 14:23:40 2019. ....Brightliners! |
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Posted by The silence on Thu Sep 19 16:04:44 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by davesgcr on Thu Sep 19 15:29:39 2019. The R32s are back on the 8th Avenue Line now that the R179s are finally in service I’m a decent quantity.The Jamaica line is home to the last R42s, they’re usually used in rush hours. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 16:30:48 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by davesgcr on Thu Sep 19 15:29:39 2019. Always happy to see a fellow railfans of reasonable sort. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 19 16:53:13 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by jrf2 on Thu Sep 19 14:23:40 2019. According to an old time M/M I knew, when the R-32s were brand new they were called “Blue doors." |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:39:45 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:27:16 2019. "Watch yer step, watch yer step, mind the gap, mind the gap." |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:40:14 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by The silence on Thu Sep 19 15:59:13 2019. And they were bright! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:40:42 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 19 16:53:13 2019. I loved those blue doors right from the get go. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 19 19:25:08 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:27:16 2019. No they will not. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 19 19:27:40 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 19 12:41:39 2019. After all the work that's been done on it in the past year, you never know... |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 19 20:34:59 2019, in response to Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:24:11 2019. No R11? No triplexes? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 19 20:48:09 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by davesgcr on Thu Sep 19 15:29:39 2019. Continuous service with the Museum Trains at Brighton Beach Station Q line from 11 AM till 4 PM on both Saturday and Sunday.Make sure to ride the other end of the Q line also. That's our new Second Ave. Line. |
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Posted by davesgcr on Fri Sep 20 02:02:15 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 19 20:48:09 2019. Very much part of the plan to ride the new sections.Thanks for the heads-up on the R32's. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Fri Sep 20 02:51:23 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by davesgcr on Fri Sep 20 02:02:15 2019. Folks, on Sunday, September 29th after the train ride you can go to the Atlantic Antic festival in Brooklyn - go to the Atlantic Ave. station or the Jay Street- MetroTech stations and follow the crowds. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 20 06:34:35 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by jailhousedoc on Fri Sep 20 02:51:23 2019. Folks, on Sunday, September 29th after the train ride you can go to the Atlantic Antic festival in Brooklyn - go to the Atlantic Ave. station or the Jay Street- MetroTech stations and follow the crowds.Isn't that the same day the museum buses are on display ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 20 07:55:25 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 19 19:27:40 2019. A nine-car Holiday Special would be a real treat. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 20 07:56:51 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 19 12:27:16 2019. Kev said that supposedly back in the Borgaschmord Train era, some IRT SMEEs were intermixed with their IND/BMT counterparts on a few occasions. |
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Posted by jrf2 on Fri Sep 20 11:39:33 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:40:14 2019. RIGHT !! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 20 12:48:53 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:40:14 2019. They certainly were bright! |
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Posted by Q4 on Fri Sep 20 15:33:20 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 20 06:34:35 2019. I know they were a few years ago when I took my youngest. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Sep 20 16:14:35 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:39:45 2019. LION will be there! That is why him choosed this week to come east.So tou may find the LION out there looking for some tasty geese to eat. ROAR |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 20 17:29:27 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:40:42 2019. Although I liked the R-32s from a performance standard, I never really saw the point of the blue doors. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 20 17:56:00 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 19 18:40:14 2019. For those of you who may not remember, the last 4 R-32s 3946-3949 which were equipped with experimental Pioneer III trucks had a much shinier exterior than the rest of the R-32s. The was rather pleased and inquired of Budd as to what kind of treatment they gave to those cars to make them look that way. The Budd Co insisted they did nothing different possibly afraid of some sort of legal action from the TA which would not have happened. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 20 17:59:20 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 20 07:56:51 2019. In all the time of the Borgaschmord era when I was a M/M and a T/D I never saw IRT cars mixed with BMT/IND cars except on shop transfers. |
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Posted by northshore on Fri Sep 20 18:14:00 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 19 13:03:59 2019. The nickname for the R-32's was the "Brightliners" because of the shinny stainless steel bodies. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 20 18:57:42 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 20 17:29:27 2019. They looked great in it. Yet copycat paint schemes on R38's and R42's looked tacky. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 20 19:54:32 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 20 17:59:20 2019. I don't think anyone was ever able to substantiate such a claim. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 20 19:56:18 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Sep 20 16:14:35 2019. I'll be there in spirit. |
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Posted by W.B. on Sat Sep 21 12:01:28 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 19 16:53:13 2019. R-32's (and the later R-38's) had the same two-tone light blue color scheme as the single WF R-33's and WF R-36's. The only difference between the A and B Division cars was that R-32's and R-38's exteriors were stainless steel. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 21 20:13:57 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 20 12:48:53 2019. My laptop now hs a new desktop backgroundROAR |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 22 13:19:50 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 20 12:48:53 2019. In comparison to everything else?Absolutely. My peeve is the fact that All new BMT equipment went to the southern division. All 550 R27/30/30a,all 600 R32/32a.. instead of mixing them through out the system. Same for the next batch. The 38s/40/40m all went to Queens. The 46 went directly to Queens,and Stayed there... until pushed out by the 160s. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 22 13:41:10 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 22 13:19:50 2019. R16's of 1955 never saw the Southern Division until 1967. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 22 13:46:11 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 22 13:19:50 2019. The R-32s were being delivered so rapidly that there was no room for them. They had to resort to yanking the Triplexes - much too soon, IMHO. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 22 13:50:26 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 22 13:46:11 2019. The TA detested anything BMT-innovative. Triplexes were gone before the older rebuilt Standards were, and the some of the R1's were in worse shape than either. The Triplexes should have been sent to Jamaica Yard for GG service. |
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Posted by Bzuck on Sun Sep 22 15:32:10 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 22 13:41:10 2019. R16s did not do very well on the Southern Division. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Sep 22 16:24:11 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 19 16:53:13 2019. When I was a kid, well before I knew about the contract numbers, I referred to the R-32s as "Silver/Blue". The R-38s I called "Silver/Silver" since they initially had silver doors. The R-40s (4150-4449) I called "Slants" (DUH). I didn't know that 4450-4549 were R-40 (Modifieds), to me they looked the same as the R-42s (yes, I know now about the thinner striping, but I didn't notice details like that when I was a kid, and no internet back then to tell me different), so to me 4450-4949 were one class I called "A/C" |
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Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sun Sep 22 16:59:42 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Sep 22 16:24:11 2019. As an kid I thought the IRT Redbirds were one car class haha, when I got on the internet I realized their were several different car classes in that group. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Sep 22 18:55:43 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 22 13:19:50 2019. The Southern Division *IS* the BMT.The eastern division is a Swiss cheese looking for a mouse. ROAR |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 23 02:24:16 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by W.B. on Sat Sep 21 12:01:28 2019. I was referring strictly to the exterior color of the doors. Actually, all BMT/IND R types from the R-32 up had the same 2 tone blue interior paint scheme. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 23 02:44:46 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 22 13:50:26 2019. It seems that the TA was afraid of anything articulated which is why they got rid of the Multis first. from what I have read, by 1950, articulation fell out of favor with transit properties which explains why when CTA place an order for a fleet of PCC rapid transit cars, it opted for married pairs rather than more articulated units like the original 4. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 23 07:15:43 2019, in response to Re: Parade of trains 2019, September 28th: Will include an R33/38 mixed consist!, posted by randyo on Mon Sep 23 02:24:16 2019. I never liked the aqua. |
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