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Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 5 22:14:36 2018 |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018, in response to Tour of funeral train, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 5 22:14:36 2018. Seriously? Amtrak can't be bothered to have diner cars on half its long-haul routes but some dead skell gets a 10-car luxury train all to himself? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 5 23:20:23 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. George H. W. Bush, our 41st President, was not a skell.And that 10 car train is also for his family and close friends. I strongly disagree with your characterization. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 5 23:20:36 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. George H. W. Bush, our 41st President, was not a skell.And that 10 car train is also for his family and close friends. I strongly disagree with your characterization. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Dec 6 01:23:07 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. I feel really bad for you. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Dec 6 01:29:21 2018, in response to Tour of funeral train, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 5 22:14:36 2018. Some of those Chesapeake and Ohio cars probably ended up on the Hudson line. :-S |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 01:57:46 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Dec 6 01:23:07 2018. Likewise. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 02:08:40 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 5 23:20:23 2018. George H. W. Bush, our 41st President...Your President, perhaps. It's harder to make the case that he was ever mine. ...was not a skell. Look, however you slice it, the man commit crimes against humanity. People died a lot younger than him, because of him. I'm not particularly attached to the "skell" term (I only used it because SubChatters seem to be fond of it), but you can't pretend he's a great guy just because he's no longer breathing. And that 10 car train is also for his family and close friends. That's still too much train. Where were the 10 cars for the friends and families of all the people he killed? And how likely do you think it was that his son - an even more notorious criminal - was on that train instead of in prison where he belongs? I strongly disagree with your characterization. Yes, I'm well aware of the trend of never speaking ill of the dead, but I'm afraid I need to disagree with it. Scum don't stop being scum just because they start decomposing. |
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Posted by Bill West on Thu Dec 6 03:27:33 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. The train is UP's doing, it's a family connection. In the 1920's Mr Bush's father was a business partner with Mr Harriman of UP fame. Can I suggest trying some homework first.Bill |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 03:51:46 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Bill West on Thu Dec 6 03:27:33 2018. The train is UP's doing, it's a family connection. In the 1920's Mr Bush's father was a business partner with Mr Harriman of UP fame.None of that contradicts anything I said re: Bush being undeserving on account of his criminal history. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Dec 6 04:38:20 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Bill West on Thu Dec 6 03:27:33 2018. So UP owns the cars, or did they rent them from various owners? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:03:58 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. Bush-41 killed no one and Amtrak has nothing to do with it.Get off your stupid soapbox. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 6 08:13:01 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:03:58 2018. Bush 41 did launch the first war with Iraq, so a fair number of US soldiers and many, many Iraqis died as a result of his commands.However, the first Iraqi war, whether you agree with it or not, wasn't based on a lie. Iraq really had invaded and occupied Kuwait. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Thu Dec 6 08:18:43 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:03:58 2018. The troll is a simpering twit. HWB volunteered for WWII and served in the battle zone. Nilet wants others to fight for him, then he spits on them. Troll is not worth your time, imho. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:24:06 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 6 08:13:01 2018. The first Gulf War was a coalition of 35 nations that Bush 41 assembled, had a defined purpose unlike Bush-43's war that was based on a lie, and then pulled out very quickly. We had 293 casualties.Bush 41 also gave us ADA and stronger environmental laws. The latter prevented 2 million premature deaths. He did it all with an opposition Congress that he worked well with. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:25:44 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Dec 6 08:18:43 2018. He was willing to delay Yale education to serve in WWII. He even tried to enlist in Canada to get in sooner - he was too young to serve here when he first wanted to. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Dec 6 08:25:53 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by 3-9 on Thu Dec 6 04:38:20 2018. UP owns them. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Dec 6 08:26:56 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. More than one person here looks forward to pissing on your grave. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Dec 6 08:41:28 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 5 23:20:23 2018. I have no problem with giving him the funeral train. Such trains are a long tradition in our country. Closing all federal offices, and especially cancelling mail delivery for a day, is harder to justify. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:52:36 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Dec 6 08:41:28 2018. USPS shutting down for a day this time of year had to hurt them financially and made them lose business to Fedex and UPS. |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Dec 6 09:28:01 2018, in response to Tour of funeral train, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 5 22:14:36 2018. Thanks for posting this Dave. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Thu Dec 6 09:32:44 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Dec 6 08:41:28 2018. One can argue that.But anyone who does a solo skydive on his 85th birthday from 20K is OK with me. A guy who follows sixty years of annual solo skydives (he did a jump every year on his birthday) by jumping out of a helicopter at age ninety is well beyond OK. Doing all that while being President Prudence B MildManners rather than today's OoohOoohLookitMeeeImaBigeeBig!11 celebutard ex-potusi, well, we're not getting any more like that. Yeah it's not a good precedent for the average blowhard prezidint, but I'm more than good with making a holiday for this one. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Dec 6 09:33:25 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Dec 6 08:41:28 2018. My father worked for the Federal Government for 33 years. He would always say he had a day in the bank for each former President. |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Thu Dec 6 09:55:47 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by 3-9 on Thu Dec 6 04:38:20 2018. This is part of UP’s office car fleet, not something created specifically for the funeral train.Alan Follett South San Francisco, CA |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 11:10:28 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Dec 6 09:32:44 2018. Lack of much of a domestic agenda and the recession from the S&L crisis lead to his defeat in 1992. But other than that, a very brave and honorable person who was not the least bit of a snob or a bigot, anda a good consensus builder, unlike the current creature residing in the Oval Office. He never went away on Thanksgiving or Xmas so that the Secret Service had more time with their own family. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:13:57 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 02:08:40 2018. I never cease to be amazed at some of the very lonely, very bitter, and very SICK individuals who post here! While I do feel sorry for you, I feel even sorrier for the people who will have to break down your door, a week or two after you die alone! |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Dec 6 12:27:58 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Q4 on Thu Dec 6 09:28:01 2018. You're welcome. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Dec 6 12:29:44 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:13:57 2018. nilet is a sick piece of shit.ignore him and he will lose whats left,if any,of his mind. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:39:39 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Dec 6 12:29:44 2018. As any regular poster/reader here will tell you, I usually refrain from badmouthing these sick individuals. Sadly, all they have in their miserable little worlds are their trains and their twisted view of people with whom they disagree- even the dead! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:44:53 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 6 12:27:58 2018. Dave, you did a really nice presentation about the funeral train. I just feel badly that some lonely loser has tried to throw mud on it! |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:50:59 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:13:57 2018. You posted that in the wrong place, dummy. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:51:02 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:39:39 2018. There you go. Tunnelrat is, indeed, a sick individual with a twisted view of people. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:51:08 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Steamdriven on Thu Dec 6 08:18:43 2018. Nilet wants others to fight for him, then he spits on them.What does that even mean? I'm guessing it's part of your paranoid fantasy about enemies lurking behind every corner, since you desperately try to bring up World War 2 unprompted. It's also a stellar example of projection, since just a scant decade ago, I was one of the only people here who actually fought for your right to railfan when King Bloomberg tried to ban subway photography, and I'm still spat on for it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:51:11 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 6 08:13:01 2018. Bush 41 did launch the first war with Iraq, so a fair number of US soldiers and many, many Iraqis died as a result of his commands.Don't forget his mishandling of the AIDS crisis, or his efforts at dismantling any infrastructure to protect us against the rich. Killing someone indirectly still kills them. However, the first Iraqi war, whether you agree with it or not, wasn't based on a lie. Iraq really had invaded and occupied Kuwait. Kinda sorta. Hussein was an American puppet who made sure to get permission from the US before he invaded Kuwait. As such, the war was utterly unnecessary, and Bush should have been forced to take responsibility for it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:51:13 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 08:03:58 2018. Given your performance in the Fordham threads and the Amtrak subsidy threads, I can tell you're good only for several increasingly incoherent arguments followed by a massive tantrum once you are thoroughly owned. It's fun, but it's getting a little old so perhaps we can skip it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:51:15 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 6 08:26:56 2018. Bold of you to assume you'll outlive me. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:51:18 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Dec 6 12:29:44 2018. This coming from the depraved individual who thinks murdering children with napalm makes you a hero to be lauded and praised. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:53:13 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:44:53 2018. I read this whole thread. No one criticized the presentation about the train. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:55:50 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:50:59 2018. No, I didn't! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:58:58 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:53:13 2018. Only after you made your uncalled-for comments! |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 13:03:48 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:58:58 2018. You're not entirely coherent. No one criticized the presentation, and I never made any uncalled-for comments. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 13:04:08 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:55:50 2018. You're not entirely coherent. Are you OK? |
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Posted by Bill West on Thu Dec 6 13:26:09 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 03:51:46 2018. It 100% contradicts your point Vis a Vis Amtrak which is what my post was about. Like I said do some homework, in this case review what was actually said in a post.Bill |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 13:29:03 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Bill West on Thu Dec 6 13:26:09 2018. What point vis a vis Amtrak? The only thing I said about Amtrak was that they don't have diners on a substantial number of long-haul trains. That has nothing to do with Union Pacific, the Shrubs, or the funeral train. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 13:29:11 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Dec 6 08:41:28 2018. I have no problem with giving him the funeral train. Such trains are a long tradition in our country.It's a tradition very reminiscent of the ceremony Britain puts on for dead monarchs. Similarly, the typical inauguration is an analogous, if more subdued, counterpart to the typical British coronation. It's a relic of our history— we were the first modern Western country to try making a democracy, and we did so in a fairly primitive era, so however forcefully we thought we were breaking away from monarchy, we couldn't help but shake a culture based on the celebrity of a single Ruler. It's not just the ceremonies. Look at how presidents are treated as uniquely worthy of respect. Look at how presidents are credited or blamed for laws when laws are actually passed by Congress. Look at the turnout for presidential vs. midterm elections. Look at all the crazies in this very thread who think that even polite and relatively tepid criticism of a dead president is an unforgivable offense. Ghosts of the British monarchy haunt our culture, even multiple centuries after we became independent. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 6 13:29:18 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 5 22:36:52 2018. Please post your uncouth and disrespectful on OT Chat. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 6 13:29:58 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:13:57 2018. iawtlp |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 6 13:30:09 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Dec 6 12:29:44 2018. iawtlp |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 6 13:30:26 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 6 12:39:39 2018. iawtlp |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 6 13:31:21 2018, in response to Re: Tour of funeral train, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 12:50:59 2018. You resemble that remark. |
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