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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Oct 19 00:17:07 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Oct 17 19:56:01 2018. I don't see why not:SEPTA in Philly now has turnstiles on the Regional Rail (at Center City stations) they have phased in with the Key Card. They also have non-turnsti;e readers at all outlying stations where eventually you will swipe when you get on and again when you get off. I can't see why the MTA can't follow suit. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 19 10:16:41 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 18 18:26:48 2018. heck. open the abandoned stations at 86, 72nd and 59th streets in the park avenue tunnel. |
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Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Fri Oct 19 11:02:54 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 18 18:26:48 2018. Imagine an INTEGRATED SYSTEM where those holes were filled by increased round-the-clock Metro North/LIRR service PLUS free-transfer feeder buses whose schedules were integrated with the rail system. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 19 16:05:10 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Oct 18 19:27:11 2018. Thats a system that works to het riders aroundFor some reason...the MTA is actively segregating its riders via price points. Its truely a rigged system thattaxes you regardless if uou ride or not. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 19 16:05:46 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Oct 18 19:27:11 2018. Thats a system that works to het riders aroundFor some reason...the MTA is actively segregating its riders via price points. Its truely a rigged system that taxes you regardless if you ride or not. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 19 16:12:28 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Oct 18 19:04:27 2018. But why should he or anyone have to offer them anything like a bribe?Ive read about and visual witnessed the snobbery of the so called commuterrail rider. To hell with em. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Oct 19 16:37:25 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 19 10:16:41 2018. That would be tough. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 19 18:45:56 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 19 16:12:28 2018. Simple fair (fare) trade? If you're making it easier for city residents to ride the commuter rail, it should be equally easier for commuter rail passengers to ride the subway.Plus the snobbery will disappear if it becomes more affordable to live out in the suburbs, and cutting out the need to buy an unlimited MC on top of an unlimited LIRR/MNRR ticket will go a long way towards that. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 19 19:18:54 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Oct 19 00:17:07 2018. Can you imagine 1,000 people getting of at a time at Hicksville or Ronkonkoma and having to tap out before running to their car ? The very idea or replicating SEPTA's silliness in NY here is laughable.Try installing turnstiles at all 5 or 6 entrances to NYPS Tracks 13 to 16 and see what Amtrak and NJT have to say about that. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 20 11:51:43 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 19 16:05:46 2018. Now that I think of it Denver seems to have followed the Melbourne model somewhat, though a PoP variant. Because everything is via visual inspection, the passes need to be pre-purchased, but you can buy a day pass on a bus or at a vending machine for your zones and it's good whether you're taking Commuter Rail, bus or light rail. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 20 13:08:04 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 20 11:51:43 2018. Now..that would work here.Metrocard Was suppose to be something like it...but instead it turned into a nightmare due to some idiot whos idea of making money is to nickle and dime us with left over money on those cards that they(MTA) POCKET..LIMITED USE...LIMITED OPTIONS..NO REGIONAL TRANSFERS. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sat Oct 20 23:12:57 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 19 19:18:54 2018. I see it working just fine. The bottleneck at NYP is the stairs to/from the platforms. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sat Oct 20 23:23:49 2018, in response to New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 16 16:34:07 2018. I can't imagine you're ever going to get a $2.75 fare to fly on LIRR from NYP to the edge of Queens unless the ridership it generates pays for the increase in service that would be necessary to accommodate everyone. Without having done any kind of analysis on ridership impact, I'd say as a quick idea that a better way would be a modified zone structure:Zone 1: NYP & GCT Zone 2: Current Zone 1 stations in Queens and Brooklyn Zone 3: Current zone 3 stations Zone 1 - Zone 2: $4.25 (City Ticket) Zone 1 - Zone 3: $6.50 (Express Bus) Zone 2 - Zone 3: $4.25 (City Ticket) Same Zone: $2.75 (Bus/Subway) Free transfer TO subway/bus, $2.75 deducted from fare when transfering FROM subway/bus. Fare gates at city zone stations. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 21 08:16:57 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sat Oct 20 23:23:49 2018. Same zone fare on LIRR is $3.25 if it is Zone 4 thru 14. Zone 14 is 40 miles across. Double standard and price gouging applies in Zones 1 & 3. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 21 12:48:17 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 19 16:05:10 2018. YES, you MUST pay taxes for transit even if you never use it.1) Your employees use it 2) Your customers use it 3) It keeps more traffic off of the streets so that you may continue to use your gas guzzling hyper huge private limo car which costs $20/hr to park. ROARING |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 21 12:51:37 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 21 12:48:17 2018. Item 3) is why public subsidies for mass transit exist at all. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 21 12:52:21 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 19 18:45:56 2018. I am a SNOBI do not want to ride with orcs and Death Eaters. I want to ride on subways with nice clean people on them, Please, Thank You, Yes mam, no sir.... But then I spend most of my time these days in Hogwarts, so I'll ride around on my broomstick, and playing quidditch. Guess what House I am in.! ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 21 12:53:13 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by italianstallion on Fri Oct 19 16:37:25 2018. Never HappenROAR |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Oct 21 13:12:41 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 21 08:16:57 2018. I'm suggesting making it $2.75 for same zone |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 21 13:30:20 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 17 14:58:34 2018. that is an issue of local v express schedules |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 21 13:59:48 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 19 18:45:56 2018. once MTA became the owner/operator of the various rail systems, maintaining the historic class/former RR co based fare distinctions for trips between similar points is no longer justified. Clearly, if there are off peak and reverse commute trains with unused capacity, offering those seats to Metrocard holders benefits everyone. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 21 14:18:09 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 21 13:59:48 2018. If MTA ever converts to a Smartcard, RR conductors scanning them off the subway would be easier. Roving inspectors have such readers on Amt/Exo commuter trains for the OP system. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 21 14:54:02 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 21 14:18:09 2018. Caltrain has readers on the platforms and random POP checks. They use the same 'Clipper' card as most SF Bay Area transit agencies. This is payment convenience but not fare integration although there is begining to be some agitation for same as we have 27 or so agencies. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Sun Oct 21 14:57:08 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 21 12:48:17 2018. " so that you may continue to use your gas guzzling hyper huge private limo car which costs $20/hr to park."OK, we both know that NYC was built around and cannot function without the subway. But car service/taxis aren't a toy of the 1//10th%. Those people arrange for things and people to be brought to them, a car is something that takes them to the airport. The rest of us, 'cept for total railfans, use whatever fits the job to get around. During rush hours that's the subway, at other times it may be a car. For some it's a bicycle, but good luck carrying your dry cleaning or a sheet of drywall on that. Car service is going to be some nasty taxi-thing, such as pretzeling yourself into the back of a Ford Edge or being semi-comfortable in an Uber Pool Toyota Camry, which is still 100x better than being in proximity to the subway slasher, platform pusher or the combined sweat of 127 people, of whom 20 haven't washed in 24 hours, 3 in 24 days. Riding is a car is hardly extravagant. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 21 16:07:24 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 21 12:48:17 2018. Too bad your fellow conservatives in government do not agree. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Oct 21 19:27:26 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Oct 21 13:12:41 2018. Elect Liberal Socialist and it will be FREE |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 22 10:42:26 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Steamdriven on Sun Oct 21 14:57:08 2018. The ownership of an automobile in the CBD is very extravagant.There is a very limited amount of highway space in the CBD. It should be limited to trucks, buses and public cars. Private cars should not be allowed in. Even peeps who live in the CBD would do better renting a car when it is needed, indeed they ought to use public transit to get out of the city and then rent their car in New Jersey or on Long Island. Leastwise that is what the LION would do, and indeed did do when him lived in the city. You want a private car in the CBD, you ought to pay a $100 daily fee. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 22 10:43:36 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 21 16:07:24 2018. TRVTH |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:50:07 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 22 10:42:26 2018. The ownership of an automobile in the CBD is very extravagant.I did it for 38 years for a very reasonable price. My total annual car expenses were never over $5000 (yes, that includes depreciation of purchase costs), and often considerably less. I stopped doing it this spring and am now renting when necessary because the number of car trips I take locally has greatly decreased over time. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 22 17:55:56 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 22 10:42:26 2018. While I agree with you about auto ownership in the CBD in general, there are certain individuals for whom neither public transport nor taxis/car services are not an option. I normally prefer to use public transport for most of my travel, but if I have a gig in the CBD which I often do, I can’t pack the many instruments I play and my PA system into either a bus, train or even a cab so I need the car and it has to be at the ready for my last minute gigs which I get quite a few of. If I had to charge the pub owners the amount of money necessary to offset the cost of a car service, they wouldn’t be able to afford to hire me. There are also occupations such as doctors and other medical and emergency service personnel who need to be able to get to a hospital or other facility at a moment’s notice sometimes with specialized implements for whom public transit is also not an option. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Oct 22 18:19:30 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 22 17:55:56 2018. While I understand the need to move 'freight', one wonders whether that makes economic sense unless you use the vehicle for many other errands/trips. Consider that owning, parking, maintaining, and insuring a car is not cheap. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 23 10:55:04 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 22 17:55:56 2018. Sell the car and buy a van.LION makes broad pictures, details knead to be worked out. Obviously I would not charge the $100 fee after say 2 pm. After that time we want more people to come into the city to use the venuesw. RROAR |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:18:37 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Oct 22 18:19:30 2018. On many occasions,I have been sitting home on a Friday or Saturday evening with nothing to do when I would get a phone call to do a gig that night. Since my car is garaged with all my instruments and equipment already loaded, all I need to do is go and start the engine and drive to the gig. If I had to use a car service, I would have to hope that the car service vehicle would be able to catty all my equipment, arrive exactly when needed and the take the time to load my gear and then upon arrival, make sure I didn’t forget anything I needed. With my own car everything is ready to go and in the unlikely event I left anything behind, all I would need to do is go the the car and get what I needed. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:24:27 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 23 10:55:04 2018. A van is exactly what I have. The problem with merely charging to come into the CBD is that people who can use public transit still pay the fees to drive rather than take a train or bus and sit back and relax on the way to/from work. Outright prohibition might harm people like me who do need to use their own vehicles. When I had gigs in Long Island, I would be annoyed at the number of large gas guzzling cars driving along the Sunrise Hwy slowing down my ride, while LIRR trains were going by with plenty of empty seats available. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 23 19:09:36 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:18:37 2018. clearly, you are analagous to a tradesperson whose tools/supplies are likewise stocked in a vehicle. I am NOT here to prevent you or they from carrying on the trades/professions in question. That said, the percentage of such trips is miniscule compared to the single drivers heading to, for instance, your gigs, the office, store, etc. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 23 19:11:20 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:24:27 2018. can't outlaw stupid. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 20:34:12 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Oct 23 19:11:20 2018. You can, but it would be hard to enforce. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 24 11:16:19 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:24:27 2018. But we wasn't going to charge trucks (working vans) to enter. Only pesky autocars.ROAR |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 11:52:11 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:24:27 2018. rather than take a train or bus and sit back and relax on the way to/from workNot very relaxing on a jam-packed train or bus. Plus, getting on and off mimics the stress level of driving in and out. Buses get caught in traffic too, and trains do get delayed. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 24 15:50:10 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 24 11:16:19 2018. However, even though I drive a van, it is still registered as a passenger vehicle, not commercial so how would the difference be able to be determined. If I registered my car as a commercial vehicle then I would be barred from certain highways that I need to get to my destinations. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 24 15:51:32 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 11:52:11 2018. If there are as many empty seats on the passing LIRR trains that I observed, then there obviously wouldn’t be any jam packing of passengers or standees either. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Oct 24 16:10:30 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 24 15:50:10 2018. well...you are clearly using it for a commercial purpose if you are paid for the musical performance. So, we need a dual use system for your vehicle (and many others). |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 24 17:46:21 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Oct 24 16:10:30 2018. CT has a category called "combination" for such uses. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 24 18:20:54 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 24 15:51:32 2018. Some trains are loaded, some are half or more empty. Off peak Ronkonkoma trains are always full, Long Beach trains are just the opposite. There's a difference among Huntington trains - the ones with Port Jeff connections are more crowded. Babylon can go either way. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 18:34:24 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 24 15:51:32 2018. What station(s) did you observe them at? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 25 15:35:30 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 24 17:46:21 2018. Correct, but NY does not. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 25 16:04:47 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 18:34:24 2018. No specific stations but the LIRR ROW that parallels Sunrise Hwy through Valley, Stream, Baldwin, Merrick etc. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 25 19:46:28 2018, in response to Re: New York City Comptroller Proposes Plan to Integrate Commuter Rail, MTA, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 23 17:24:27 2018. there is a lot of westbound service on that line; the trains have to go back somehow. |
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