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Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018 So does anyone have advice for the best way to hunt down the rare remaining RFWs? In particular... Is there a good way to find a RFW on the 7 express rather than rely on blind luck? Is there any rhyme or reason to when the R62s get sent out or whether they'll be sent out on any given day? (Per a source of mine; there are 4 sets assigned to Corona but only one of them was on the road during the Wednesday PM rush. No idea where it was or whether it had a Queens-facing RFW since I only rode from Hudson Yards to 5th Avenue and all I saw were R188s.) Is DJ Hammers still around? That guy seems to know where everything is all the time and may potentially be clairvoyant. Also, is there any strategy to hunt down the last train (or several trains?) of M2s other than wait at Grand Central and peek at every outbound departure on the New Haven line? Do those trains run outside of rush hour? Would the first car invariably be open when departing Grand Central (I'm inclined to doubt that they'd close cars on a peak train.) Waiting at 125th isn't a good strategy since (a) it might skip 125th and (b) I likely wouldn't have time to buy a ticket between spotting it and it arriving so unless I know exactly where it's going in advance I'd be stuck paying on-board fare. And if there is a way to know in advance where it'll be, I'd love to catch it on an inbound AM train instead.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Thu Mar 15 22:30:14 2018, in response to Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018.* sad to hear they are going away
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Mar 15 22:57:24 2018, in response to Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018.* Try the A train.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by r33/r36 mainline* on Thu Mar 15 23:00:59 2018, in response to Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018.* Supposedly the 5:18 to Harrison uses M2 regularly. There's also some Hudson/Harlem line runs that use M3s pretty regularly. As for the 62A 7 trains, try looking for them during the AM Rush as most lines require more trainsets for the AM Rush vs the PM Rush.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Mar 16 00:54:54 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Mar 15 23:00:59 2018.* Supposedly the 5:18 to Harrison uses M2 regularly. OK, I'll check. Thanks. Is there an AM run that also uses them regularly? There's also some Hudson/Harlem line runs that use M3s pretty regularly. I've seen an express to White Plains (first stop Scarsdale) that's almost always M3s but I'm making a priority of the rarest and likely shortest-lived. As for the 62A 7 trains, try looking for them during the AM Rush as most lines require more trainsets for the AM Rush vs the PM Rush. That's true, but in my experience the 7 is more likely to have Queens-facing RFWs than Manhattan-facing so it evens out. (Also I already got a RFW video of the inbound 7 express). Thanks for your help.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Mar 16 00:58:32 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 15 22:30:14 2018.* :( The R32s will be around through 2019 apparently, so there'll be RFWs on the A, C, J, and Z. The R42s on the M shuttle will be trapped there through April. The M3s on LIRR and MNRR will likely be around for a little while. The M2s on the New Haven line seem like supplementary equipment at best so I don't know how long they have left. The R62s on the 7 still have the occasional RFW, but they'll be gone when CBTC is finished which may be only a few months. By 2020, the nearest RFW will probably be the Market-Frankford line. :(
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri Mar 16 04:29:26 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 16 00:54:54 2018.* but in my experience the 7 is more likely to have Queens-facing RFWs than Manhattan-facing Why do you think that is? Cuts and adds in the yard?
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Mar 16 05:31:01 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 16 04:29:26 2018.* I think it's because of the position of the conductor's cab, combined with an (apparent) policy that the conductor always gets a full cab, but no other full cabs are allowed to be in the middle of the train. The 7 uses 11-car trains. R62s come in single units and 5-car sets. Sets can have full cabs, but single units don't. The conductor is always in the 5th car from the Manhattan end, meaning the Manhattan end is always a 5-car set— which may well have a full cab at both ends. Meanwhile, the rest of the train may be a single car and then another five-car set but it may also be six single cars, which virtually guarantees a RFW on that end. Over the past two months, I've seen nine trains of R62s on the 7, of which five had only a Queens-facing RFW, one had only a Manhattan-facing RFW, two had no RFW at all, and one had a double-ended RFW.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri Mar 16 06:13:54 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 16 05:31:01 2018.* by having the 5-car family on the south end/Manhattan-bound end, it means that you can't gap when doing yard moves in Corona Yard. If you have the single car units on the south end, it would be hard to cut and add those units without a gap in the yard.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by New Flyer #857* on Fri Mar 16 08:09:19 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 16 00:58:32 2018.* :( There's always AirTrain JFK for some quick fun though.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by K. Trout* on Sat Mar 17 01:46:02 2018, in response to Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018.* (b) I likely wouldn't have time to buy a ticket between spotting it and it arriving so unless I know exactly where it's going in advance I'd be stuck paying on-board fare Assuming you have a smartphone, the e-ticket app would significantly cut down on the time necessary to buy an appropriate ticket. The platform signs at 125th list all stops, right?
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Dj Hammers* on Sat Mar 17 10:23:40 2018, in response to Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018.* There are now two consists of R62As that run on the 7, mainly during the AM and PM rush hours only. Get your rides/photos/videos of them now - unless plans change they’ll be off the line by the end of the month. As the R179s come in, R32/42 equipment will be displaced from the J to other lines. This is already happening now by the way. Hope this helps!
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet* on Sat Mar 17 11:25:31 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Mar 17 10:23:40 2018.* Just two R62As? I heard four last week. Do they still have RFWs? Will they still (potentially) have RFWs for any time after they get transferred to the 6?
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet* on Sat Mar 17 11:31:04 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Mar 17 10:23:40 2018.* As the R179s come in, R32/42 equipment will be displaced from the J to other lines. This is already happening now by the way. OK, thanks. I already knew about that (and I already have a complete RFW video of the Z train, plus a bonus RFW video express Broadway Junction - Marcy) so I'm less concerned about that. Hope this helps! Yep. Thanks. How do you get all your information anyway? Are you actually clairvoyant?
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by randyo* on Sat Mar 17 15:42:09 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by K. Trout on Sat Mar 17 01:46:02 2018.* Why can’t you get the ticket in advance anyhow? Aren’t they good for a year so that you can use it anytime within that period?
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by r33/r36 mainline* on Sat Mar 17 20:00:48 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by randyo on Sat Mar 17 15:42:09 2018.* Their only good for only two months. NJT tickets are good forever.. They don't have an expiration date!
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Dj Hammers* on Mon Mar 19 17:51:09 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Sat Mar 17 11:31:04 2018.* Clairvoyant enough to know that you’re currently in the front of an R62A 7 express taking video :D
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Nilet* on Mon Mar 19 22:14:42 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Mar 19 17:51:09 2018.* Where were you? Camera's charging now so I can't easily check the video. Wait, are you a TSS?
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Further RFW Hunting
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Apr 11 12:54:05 2018, in response to Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 15 21:24:47 2018.* Are the R62s gone from the 7? I already got RFW videos, but I'm never one to refuse a chance to obsessively re-take a RFW video just in case the first one wasn't perfect. When the M reopens in May, will the J/Z be express again until the L shutdown? If so, would I still have a reasonable chance of catching an R32 or an R42 on the Z in the morning? (I'm not sure of the rate of R179 arrivals, but I spotted a set of R32s at Grand Street yesterday, on its way off the J line.)
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Q4 on Wed Apr 11 13:09:56 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 16 00:58:32 2018. M3s on the LIRR are scheduled to be gone by the end of the year.
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Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?
Posted by Joe V* on Wed Apr 11 13:12:23 2018, in response to Re: Best Way To Hunt RFWs?, posted by Q4 on Wed Apr 11 13:09:56 2018.* This year - no. The M-9's aren't even on the N.A. continent yet and they'll need 160 in service to do it..
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