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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 23 09:46:42 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 23 08:07:08 2017.

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Well...you know why.
If you transit starve a system by Not providing a service, people will Still find a way.

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 23 09:56:29 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by GojiMet86 on Tue Aug 22 13:18:34 2017.

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Cool.
So basically, its being removed just because exclusive freight rights .

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 23 10:32:09 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 23 09:46:42 2017.

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I wouldn't call lower Manhattan "transit-starved".

The jobs disappeared due to technology, mergers, Wall Streeter malfeasance, IT offshoring, Metrotech, Jersey City, Atlanta, Dallas.

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 23 11:06:08 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 18:34:45 2017.

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LOL! No, they don't.

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 23 11:57:43 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 23 11:06:08 2017.

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Well, in 1980 they did. He's only about 35 years behind.

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by sloth on Wed Aug 23 12:03:48 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 23 09:56:29 2017.

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No. It's being removed because of ESA. When there was freight in Yard A in Sunnyside, this was a very important piece of track. Yard A survived into the early days of NYAR but nowhere near as busy as it once was. Then Yard A was removed for East Side Access construction. The same rationale was given for the abandonment of the Montauk Cutoff-- the viaduct is in the path of some upcoming ESA work.
Without Yard A, it was a very rarely used connecting track. Without the connection, it's an extra yard track in Blissville.

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 23 13:21:23 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 23 07:45:41 2017.

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Then again, midtown is definitely in vogue. Could the railroad terminals have something to do with it?

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 23 13:25:40 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 23 13:21:23 2017.

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Most of the workforce does not use commuter rail.

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Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 23 13:39:27 2017, in response to Re: Montauk Cut-Off Abandonment, posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 23 13:25:40 2017.

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What percentage does, though? If it's big enough, even if it's not a majority, it could still influence decisions.

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