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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017 For the 2016 Columbus Day weekend I scheduled a Friday in NYC to head out into LIRR territory to get some photos of NASSAU interlocking in Mineola before any of the third track proposals ruined it. Also included is a brief stopover at Jamaica and the start of my trip in the Croton/Pleasantville area of Westchester. This trip also involved an attempt to ride a set of M3's on the Harlem Line, which ended up only being only partly successful photo and video wise, but I'll cover that in a part 2.You can view all the LIRR, Harlem Line and GCT photos here. Arriving at Croton-Harmon I caught an M7A set heading into the yard in front of HM tower.  It took a while for an M3 set to arrive at Pleasantville, so I amused myself getting photos and videos of the passing M7's and non-stopping diesel trainsets. When an M3 finally did arrive, the engineer kept the cab door open so he could chat up a pretty lady sitting in the opposite seat. From the conversation I suspect that both were married. #Shameless Anyway Here southbound MNRR Harlem Line train passes through the station with CDoT Shoreliner IV Cab Car #6221 and MNRR P32AC-DM #224 on the rear. This train ran local from Waissac to Brewster North, then express to GCT. My main line train to Mineola sitting on Penn Station Track #20 with LIRR M7 #7560.  This was located directly across from the old 'C' interlocking tower, with vintage 1911 signals hanging all over the place.  Replacement signal bridges going up at HAROLD interlocking as part of the LIRR One Seat Ride project.  My train departing Mineola eastbound past NASSAU tower with LIRR M7 #7003.  LIRR M7 #7248 stopping at Mineola westbound.  NASSAU tower from the rear. Originally fitted with a mechanical lever frame, NASSAU has most recently been updated with a modern N-X panel and controls the main line between QUEENS and DIVIDE, as well as the Oyster Bay branch.  Westbound Oyster Bay train rounding the slow speed curve into the flat junction in front of the tower, with C-3 cab car #5003 and DM30 #500.   PRR amber position light signals on the Oyster Bay branch. Westbound two dwarf signals are provided (one mounted high up on the cantilever mast), while eastbound there are two high PL's governing movements over a trailing point crossover that allows eastbound wrong railing trains to cross over since the OB branch is still signaled with single direction Rule 251 ABS. The 13E signal has an upper head / position because LIRR trains diverge over Approach to stop since Medium Approach was never adopted.  Because of poor drainage, the LIRR is in a never ending battle to keep the flat junction at NASSAU from becoming a quagmire of speed restrictions. A crew was out preparing for the upcoming annual renewal job where the ML is shut down over a weekend and the entire flat junction removed, regraded and then replaced. Today the workers were able to shovel ballast for about 5 minutes at a time before having to clear up for the next train, which were running every 15 minutes or sooner.  Outbound LIRR non-stopping train blasting through Mineola with M7 #7160 in the lead.  LIRR M7 #7200 passing one of the track workers.  The mid-day New York and Atlantic freight soon appeared with MP15 #155 in the lead.  Here is a video that more efficiently captures the scope of the weekday action at NASSAU. Eastbound LIRR M7 #7476 stops at Mineola station.  To avoid wasting track capacity, inbound and outbound Oyster Bay trains are scheduled to pass at Mineola. Here we see such a meet with ME30 #407 heading eastbound and #409 pushing westbound.  C-3 cab car #5006 was on the rear of the outbound OB train.  Not sure why, but I am always seeing pairs of LIRR MP15's running lite. Here one such move with #154 and #153 is seen heading east through Mineola.  To catch my return train I positioned myself on the west end of the Mineola platform. I took the second of two closely spaced locals, the first of which was led by M7 #7221 and trailed by #7582 and the second led by #7787.    C-3 #5003 passing M7 #7386 in front of JAY tower at Jamaica. Unfortunately the LIRR has started replacing the PRR PL dwarf signals with stacked color lights.  LIRR M3's and M7's on the northern station yard tracks.   I'll finish Part one with this rear view of the LIRR HQ at the Jamaica Station complex.  Next week I'll move on to Part 2 which, in addition to GCT and the Harlem Line, includes a (6) train trip to Whitlock Ave. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 26 16:34:23 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. very nice photos |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 16:35:03 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. I'm interested to see the proposals for third-tracking through Mineola. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 16:37:18 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. Really enjoyed the pictures and the captions. Thanks.Is C tower used for anything now? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 26 16:43:17 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. Nice. That freight was haulin' ass. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 18:43:09 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 16:37:18 2017. I assume a CnS hangout. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 18:43:57 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 26 16:43:17 2017. They gotta move between passenger trains. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Feb 26 19:04:37 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. You never disappoint us! Thanks, Mike. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 26 19:13:23 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. AWESOME pictures! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Feb 26 19:13:38 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. More good quality stuff Mike. Thanks for sharing. If you don't get tired of posting, I won't get tired of complimenting!! |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 19:37:19 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. I rode a Harlem Line M-3 last week on a North White Plains ultra-local trip. They definitely had rehabbed the seats (not the dilapidated ones in place when I rode those trains regularly in the time period 2004-2006). And the motors sounded and acted pretty good too; the doors worked fine; etc. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 19:41:28 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 26 19:13:23 2017. Thanks. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Feb 26 20:25:18 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. Good shots. As you noticed, weekday late mornings and around 12:30 PM, two locals are spaced three minutes apart, and then the next local isn't for almost another hour. One comes from Farmingdale, and the other from Huntington. Naturally, the second local is much less crowded. I can't help but think that this could be improved somehow. Maybe with the third track... |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 26 21:12:06 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 19:37:19 2017. MNRR has also rehabbed the seats of some M7s. 4007 & its mate had brand new seat cushioning.Compare to the C3s with seats that look like they've been through a few wars. LIRR's M7s aren't far behind... I was bored one day and rated a bunch of North American commuter rail based on a variety of critera. MNRR is superior to every other commuter RR I've ridden on in NA. The only one I haven't ridden that might be on par is Metra. |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Feb 26 21:42:32 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. Very nice work Mike over some very familiar territory for me.In the mid /late '70's I was commuting home on the Ronkonkoma or Babylon late nights. For several months I made a train out of Track 18 at NYP. I'd often get there early and watch the model board through the window in C tower. Over the course of a few days, the operator invited me in. He, old italian guy and his young latino assistant, took a liking to this 20 yr old rail buff. I actually made some moves under their supervision lining up say tunnel # 4 to trk 19, etc. About a year later I saw the latino guy on the plat. He invited me in again, but the old guy had since died. His little funeral picture was hung on the model board. I can still see it. LOL, your picture shows the little porch behind the tower - the guys used to pee off that balcony instead of walking up to the station. The whole area stunk of piss!!! What did you say you think is in the tower now? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 21:57:20 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Feb 26 21:42:32 2017. I suspect it is a C&S (Communications and Signals) lounge since the lights are still on. Do you have any photos from your visits? |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Feb 26 22:08:04 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 21:57:20 2017. Alas, I have no pictures, as far as I recall. But, I do have a souvenir. The hand lever to switch 32 was slightly bent so they replaced it. The old one was sitting on the desk and they gave it to me. I'll get a picture and post it here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 27 00:15:20 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 16:35:03 2017. See p. 59 et seq. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 27 00:36:09 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Feb 26 22:08:04 2017. Cool!If you are interested, this is what Tower A looks like inside. http://rrsignalpix.com/tower_a_nyc.php |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Feb 27 07:37:43 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. Excellent photos!!! Thank You! |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Feb 27 10:38:56 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 27 00:15:20 2017. Thanks! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 27 12:13:34 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 19:37:19 2017. The MNRR original plan was to keep the M3s around thru 2020.LIRR M3s will probably be gone before that. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Feb 27 13:25:40 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. Very enjoyable. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 27 15:47:31 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. before any of the third track proposals ruined itI keep forgetting that you're a signals and PRR junky. I'm waiting for somebody to "ruin it" with catenary and Euro-spec rolling stock. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 27 16:29:57 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 27 15:47:31 2017. Well thanks to Trump it looks like Caltrain will keep flying the American flag so I'm pretty optimistic. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 27 16:40:08 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 27 16:29:57 2017. Well thanks to Trump it looks like Caltrain will keep flying the American flag so I'm pretty optimistic.Yes, so it's going to remain the slow line that feels like the West Coast version of some diesel line on NJT instead of being something remotely first-wordish that I'd actually ride. I've jokingly argued that I stopped planning trips in the US because I get more value going to Europe to railfan. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 27 21:46:23 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 27 16:40:08 2017. Yeah, but the railfan window makes it seem a lot faster and also so you don't notice the time. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Feb 28 23:11:21 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. I used to love hanging out at Nassau, even been inside once. Nothing like standing at the ped crossing when an express diesel comes thru at MAS |
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Posted by ren on Wed Mar 1 22:39:47 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Feb 28 23:11:21 2017. Maximum Allowable Speed? |
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Posted by chuchubob on Thu Mar 2 07:28:07 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by ren on Wed Mar 1 22:39:47 2017. Maximum Allowed Speed |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Mar 2 09:44:18 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by chuchubob on Thu Mar 2 07:28:07 2017. Maximum Authorized Speed |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Mar 2 14:15:24 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. That was fun! Thanks for sharing this!--Mark |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 2 14:30:44 2017, in response to PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Feb 26 16:16:17 2017. again excellent photos |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 2 14:57:15 2017, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NASSAU, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Mar 2 09:44:18 2017. If I recall from my old days riding the LIRR it was “maximum allowable speed." |
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