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Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016 It was reported in the New York Times (11/28/16) that the former Lackawanna ferryboat “BINGHAMPTON” is to be dismantled and scrapped. The “BINGHAMPTON” was built in 1905 for the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad. She was one of several boats known as the “Scranton” or “Barclay Street” class and her usual assignment was on the Hoboken – Barclay Street run. She was included in the 1961 merger of the Lackawanna and Erie Railroads and served until 1967 when the service ended. She was acquired by a private owner and converted into a restaurant in Edgewater, New Jersey. The restaurant closed in 2007 and she has been slowly deteriorating at her pier. She may well be the last of the railroad-operated Hudson River ferryboats. Stats: BINGHAMPTON, Official No. 201734, 187 x 43 x 16, 1462 tons, Builder: Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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[3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 28 10:24:37 2016, in response to Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016.   
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Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 10:43:28 2016, in response to [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 28 10:24:37 2016. Thanks for the pictures Bill. I rode the BING when she was still in service. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Nov 28 11:24:00 2016, in response to Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016. Unfortunately it looks pretty much beyond hope. I blame the restaurant owner for not looking after it. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 28 13:52:29 2016, in response to Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016. Subject corrected. |
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Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by HART BUS on Mon Nov 28 14:37:28 2016, in response to [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 28 10:24:37 2016. What a shame that a grand old dame fell into such disrepair. |
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Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Nov 28 14:58:57 2016, in response to [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 28 10:24:37 2016. When it's sunk like that, do they scrap it in place? |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 15:52:42 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Nov 28 11:24:00 2016. That is pretty much the case. The boat is partially sunk and trying to move it that condition would be risky. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 18:56:51 2016, in response to Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016. Unfortunate. At least the general design is alive and well in the Staten Island Ferry, and the general purpose is still served by the NY Waterways Ferries. Compare to other transportation from the time period like the horse drawn streetcar, or the Zeppelin. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Joe on Mon Nov 28 21:22:02 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 18:56:51 2016. The lengthy article in today's NY Times (11.28.2016) said it had two steam engines. Is this correct? Did the shaft run through, so when it was pushing with the rear propeller, the front was pulling?Thanks. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Nov 29 07:42:32 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 18:56:51 2016. It's unfortunate that the Binghamton is going- we can't save everything. But as you've said, the general design is used for the Staten Island service, and the function is utilized by NY Waterway. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 29 13:37:58 2016, in response to Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016. What a shame. There was something special in riding those North River ferries. They were impressive in a way that even the large older Staten Island Ferries were not.Yes, they just went up and down the Hudson/NR but standing at the front seemed more like an ocean voyage, for all of 10-15 minutes or so. Anyone ride the old Hudson River Day Line? |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 29 16:12:00 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 18:56:51 2016. Actually, the Zeppelin (or dirigible) design is still in use. The difference between a Zeppelin and a Blimp is that the Zeppelin is a rigid airship with the skin stretched over a frame whereas the blimp is a collapsable balloon. Goodyear recently retired their blimp and replaced it with a rigid framed air ship which is more accurately a Zeppelin or dirigible. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 16:53:51 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 18:56:51 2016. At least the general design is alive and well in the Staten Island Ferry, Surprisingly quite a number of double ended ferryboats are still in use and some are quite busy. New York City has Governor's Island and Hart Island runs. CDOT operates the Chester-Hadlym ferry, SELDEN III. The Lake Champlain Transportation Company operates a fleet of ten boats on three routes. One route, the Grand Isle - Plattsburgh crossing runs 24/7 every day of the year. Shelter Island at the east of Long Island has two services. The North Ferry has five boats and the South Ferry has four. They run so frequently during the busy season that there is no schedule. They simply "load and go". Of course there are the three ferryboats on the Seven Seas Lagoon at Walt Disney World. They can carry about five hundred passengers on two decks. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 16:55:38 2016, in response to Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 28 14:58:57 2016. When it's sunk like that, do they scrap it in place? That's probably what will be done. The boat is in such bad shape that she might break apart in midstream even if they could make the hull watertight. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 16:58:13 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Joe on Mon Nov 28 21:22:02 2016. The lengthy article in today's NY Times (11.28.2016) said it had two steam engines. Is this correct? Did the shaft run through, so when it was pushing with the rear propeller, the front was pulling? Thanks. Joe: The BINGHAMPTON had two - 2 cylinder compound steam engines. I'm not sure about the shaft but I believe that you are correct. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 17:07:39 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 29 13:37:58 2016. The railroad ferries always possessed something of a quiet dignity. It may be that they were more then mere conveyances but part of great transportation networks. The railroads that they ran for were the premier transportation services of their day. Even though its been over forty years since they last ran their names still command respect; New York Central, Pennsylvania, Lackawanna, Erie and Jersey Central. Indeed the Lackawanna Terminal in Hoboken is still in use. I remember the HRDL well. The high point of ever summer was the trip up the river to Bear Mountain. I was fortunate enough to ride the ROBERT FULTON in her last season on the river 1954. I have many memories of the PETER STUYVESANT, ALEXANDER HAMILTON and DAYLINER as well. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 29 18:00:22 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 17:07:39 2016. Alexander Hamilton to West Point with my parents many years ago. Loved it. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 29 18:15:12 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 18:56:51 2016. Do any other Erie Lackawanna ferries still exist ? |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 18:27:52 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 29 18:15:12 2016. Do any other Erie Lackawanna ferries still exist ? I believe that the BINGHAMPTON was the last of the railroad ferries. Hopefully someone will prove me wrong. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 29 18:34:24 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 29 16:12:00 2016. True, but the new Zeppelins (Zeppelin NT I believe) don't have nearly as large a passenger area as those of old. Also we can't fly across the Atlantic on them. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 29 18:38:19 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 16:53:51 2016. Wow! I was curious if there were other such operations left in the US, thanks! |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 18:44:32 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 29 18:38:19 2016. You're welcome . I'm sure the there are a few more that I didn't mention. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 29 20:13:59 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 18:27:52 2016. Larry, why do you insist on continuing to misspell the name of this boat??? It is quite disrespectful. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Nov 29 22:39:18 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 29 18:38:19 2016. Even Disney has three, the ones that shuttle between the Ticket and Transportation Center and the Magic Kingdom entrance, named after three people who helped build the resort; General Joe Potter, Admiral Joe Fowler and Richard F. Irvine. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Nov 30 07:22:36 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by The Silence on Tue Nov 29 22:39:18 2016. He already mentioned those. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 30 09:00:09 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 29 18:00:22 2016. To Bear Mountain, fairly often, with my dad.I was disappointed I never saw a bear; but in retrospect, maybe I was fortunate. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Nov 30 09:20:17 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 30 09:00:09 2016. I was disappointed I never saw a bear; but in retrospect, maybe I was fortunate. They always had bears ... in the zoo. I spent some summers in Fort Montgomery. A favorite prank of some of the wiseguys was to call up the radio station and report that a bear had escaped from the zoo and was making its way up 9W. Those were simpler times. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 30 11:50:42 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Nov 30 09:20:17 2016. Nowadays the bear would be carrying a GPS. |
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Bump for Larry -- Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Nov 30 23:32:35 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 29 20:13:59 2016. Bump |
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Re: Bump for Larry -- Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Dec 1 19:20:13 2016, in response to Bump for Larry -- Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Nov 30 23:32:35 2016. Bump |
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Re: Bump for Larry -- Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:00:44 2016, in response to Re: Bump for Larry -- Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Dec 1 19:20:13 2016. bump |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Mon Dec 5 13:07:34 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 29 20:13:59 2016. I,m sure the boat won`t mind. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:13:50 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by tunnelrat on Mon Dec 5 13:07:34 2016. Probably not. But that doesn't change the fact that it is disrespectful. And it also doesn't change the fact that it is very odd behavior by Larry (both that he continued to misspell it and that he refuses to address it). |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Mon Dec 5 13:23:17 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:13:50 2016. T.P.I,ll handle larry.LARRY go stand by the blackboard and write'I WILL NOT MISPELL" until you can spell right,got it? problem solved.that is,untill the next crisis of immence proportion. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:24:24 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by tunnelrat on Mon Dec 5 13:23:17 2016. Lol...haha........................................... |
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Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Dec 5 15:05:13 2016, in response to Re: [3 PHOTOS] Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 29 16:55:38 2016. "The Record" said that it will be scrapped in place, this January. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Dec 5 18:05:16 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:13:50 2016. Terrible spelling mistake. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Dec 5 19:23:14 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Nov 30 09:20:17 2016. I used to drive on 9-W, very scenic road. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 5 20:40:23 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Dec 5 18:05:16 2016. Since we are from downstate, I think it a common mistake, as we think of the name "Hamptons".Sort of like remembering which Pittsburgh's get the H and which do not. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Dec 5 21:04:36 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 5 20:40:23 2016. Unlikely. The name was in the photos. And someone corrected him early on but he kept on misspelling it. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Dec 5 21:34:32 2016, in response to Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 28 09:58:47 2016. Is Binghampton near Southampton? |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 21:41:29 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMTON to be Scrapped, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 5 20:40:23 2016. It’s pronounced differently. The accent is on a different syllable. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 21:41:51 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by northshore on Mon Dec 5 21:34:32 2016. Excellent post. See? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 6 04:38:27 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 29 13:37:58 2016. I rode on the newer Dayliner, in the '70s. It was our first time going "upstate" to Bear Mountain. I didn't pay much attention to the trains at first (didn't know what to look for), but when I went again, years later in high school, I was fascinated with the ACMUs and M1As going up and down the Hudson (off-peak trains were only 3-4 cars, peak trains were only 5-6 cars), as well as the occasional Turboliner. That was when the Dayliner did school specials, which did OK at first. Problems started on later trips though - there was one incident related to a student taking LSD, then there was the time there was a huge riot on board the boat. The captain was urgently trying to dock, but nobody would allow him until they finally mustered enough law enforcement, I guess. Since then the Dayliner was discontinued and the pier is now used by someone else. |
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Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 6 13:44:25 2016, in response to Re: Former E-L Ferryboat BINGHAMPTON to be Scrapped, posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 6 04:38:27 2016. There are a lot of dck chairs on the "floor" of the Hudson! |
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