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This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016 
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 26 20:11:58 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. Not an OEM staircase ? |
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Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 26 20:15:05 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. Go hard,or go home. |
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Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 26 20:21:30 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 26 20:15:05 2016. ROTFL! |
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Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by Allan on Fri Aug 26 20:42:31 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. I'll bet you struck it first. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 26 20:48:03 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by Allan on Fri Aug 26 20:42:31 2016. Whoever has had their attention obsessed with their Smartphone must have hit it now and again. |
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Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Aug 26 22:39:29 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. At least you didn't try and follow the act of Charles Addams' skier! |
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Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Aug 26 22:40:27 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. At least you didn't try and follow the act of Charles Addams' skier! |
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Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Aug 26 22:51:39 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. I never noticed anything like that either. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 27 00:26:24 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 26 20:21:30 2016. Thank you.Somebody gets it. |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Sat Aug 27 01:02:00 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. The old Polo Grounds had some seats with pillars like that in front of them. You had to sit with your legs apart and put your head to the side to watch the games. You of course were able to alternate your view by switching your head from side to side. |
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Posted by gbs on Sat Aug 27 03:13:59 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. That's 14 St (A,C,E) and that's not an original staircase. Most island platforms have their pillars along the platform edge, but some early IND stations, like Canal St, 14 St, 125 St, 175 St, and Church Av, have their pillars along the center of the platform. At the staircases at these stations, when originally constructed, the center pillars were omitted by design, and instead, the ceiling support consists of horizontal beams alongside the staircase opening, very visible and obvious from the platform looking up. Over time, many original station exits were closed and staircases were removed and the openings covered over, but at these stations, the ceiling beams still show where the stairs used to be. At 125 St, for example, the 127 St exit was closed long ago and those stairs were removed but their locations are easy to determine because of the ceiling beams. Because the IND tracks turn south-east onto Greenwich St below the 14 St station, the platforms are actually between 15 St and 17 St, and there used to be exits at 15, 16, and 17 Streets, but years ago the station was re-configured and some stairs were eliminated. More recently, when the station was renovated, additional stairs were added, but not where they were before, and so some have the existing center pillars in them. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 27 06:16:56 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 26 20:48:03 2016. Exactly! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Aug 27 08:07:04 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by gbs on Sat Aug 27 03:13:59 2016. That's 14 St (A,C,E) and that's not an original staircaseThat was my thought too. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by heypaul on Sat Aug 27 08:35:03 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by gbs on Sat Aug 27 03:13:59 2016. Thanks very much for the explanation. It is 14th St (A,C,E). How do you know so much about station construction? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 27 09:21:12 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. It's causing a pretty big reduction in width on the up side and a slight reduction in width on the down side. Depending on your size, it may or not be a problem. I've been in a home where the handrail for the stairs is attached to a wall and tapers to a close before you reach the bottom step, you have to take your hand out of there or get it pinched.It falls into the s**t happens category. Nice catch, heypaul |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 27 11:01:49 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. Take a deep breath! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 27 11:47:45 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 26 20:48:03 2016. FALSE! |
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Posted by Jon Bell on Sat Aug 27 16:16:01 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. Hang out there long enough and you can probably shoot a prime candidate for "America's Funniest Videos". |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sat Aug 27 20:38:30 2016, in response to This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Fri Aug 26 19:48:00 2016. I saw this earlier this week. I also found it to be weird. This is at 14th Street/Eighth Avenue. |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Aug 28 00:19:41 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by heypaul on Sat Aug 27 08:35:03 2016. Interest and observation. I've been an IND kid since the '50s (home station: 63 Drive) and have always found the subways fascinating.None of the Queens-Blvd line stations have that center-pillar construction. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Aug 28 00:56:04 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by gbs on Sat Aug 27 03:13:59 2016. Well stated. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun Aug 28 09:05:23 2016, in response to Re: This Support Beam in the Middle of a Staircase Struck Me as Unusual, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Aug 27 08:07:04 2016. This is a relocated stairway that was built during the 1th Street 8th Avenue station rehab in the 1990's. Original IND civil construction has two longitudinal steel support members perpendicular to horizontal cross beams supported by other longitudinal support beams, and tunnel wall soldiers columns spaced at five foot intervals.For those on this forum that live and or work in NYC, a visit to an IND station equipped with a stairway leading to a mezzanine, the support beams are evident. To save lots of money, NYCT decided to wrap the new staircase around the existing vertical support column. |
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