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NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 26 11:18:59 2016

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Another fine mess that Comrade Wilhelm brought back, but in a greater degree.

CBS New York

Homeless Encampments Worry Commuters At Penn Station

July 25, 2016 6:07 PM
As the New York City homeless problem persists, passengers have been encountering crowds of people camped outside Penn Station.

As CBS2’s Jessica Layton reported, Penn Station commuters said the city needs to do something.

Annette Woods is a frequent visitor to the city from Trenton, New Jersey, and she loves New York City — she even wears an “I love NY” T-shirt. But she said she would rather not be hassled for cash by the homeless people who are hunched over and camped out in the doorway.

“Not clean,” Woods said, “and they need food, shelter or, place or a job.”

“It’s sad, but that’s the reality here, and it’s part of the city,” said Kinneret Ladizinsky of Canada.

Mayor Bill de Blasio’s refrain has been that when the city sees an uptick of homeless people in a particular spot, police officers or outreach workers are sent to check things out.

“To the point that we really know, in the vast majority of cases, their name, their history, why they say they’re there, what they might be willing to consider as a reason to get off the streets,” Mayor de Blasio said.

But those who seemingly have made the pavement outside Penn Station their permanent address said there are worse places to be. There is a lot of shade available during the sweltering summer, and one man said it is a good spot to make a little money.

“The empty bottles make economy for me,” said Al-Zamil Yamatazu.

When he spoke to Layton on Monday, Yamatazu said he had gotten about $30 in cans and bottles from the tourists and professionals passing through. He added that the streets can be better than the shelters.

“I think that people feel safer here,” he said.

But some travelers do not feel safe around the homeless.

“I’m more scared than anything,” one woman said.

The woman said she does feel for the homeless, but like most who spoke to CBS2, she said the city must do more to solve the problem.

The city said it will be sending more outreach teams to offer help to people on the streets in extreme heat.


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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 11:46:27 2016, in response to NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 26 11:18:59 2016.

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all these "homeless"...all these guys with all their legs and arms...fingers and toes okay...both eyes...alllllllllllll tat free time...PHUUUUUUUUUCCKKKK YOOOOOOOOOOOZE!!!! go volunteer at a veterans hospital. speak with dudes who stepped on land mines or experienced the joy of a bouncing betty or have to play with their children minus an eye or a hand, defending the "right" of your stinking foul lazy retarded bum-diddy-mutha-fuggin buuuuummm assses to plop yourselvea down in front of the city's splendor and civic accomplishment. offer your healthy selves up for service for the betterment of society for old folks and kids. no????? then get your scum sucking asses OFF A OUR TRAIN STATION!!!! emulating old-school bensonhurst "logic tools", i.e.: baseball bats, this point should be positively enforced by right-thinking productive members of society.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 26 12:19:46 2016, in response to NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 26 11:18:59 2016.

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I am frustrated by the MTAPD/Amtrak PD's inability or unwillingness to keep the homeless out of the various eating establishments. McDonald's on the LIRR side and Tim Horton's (the only one now is on the Amtrak side thanks to Vornado Realty) are two of the places in which I have been accosted by homeless persons asking for money which is a scary situation indeed. Of course the store employees don't want to get involved since it is not their job in the first place and they no doubt fear being attacked as well.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 26 12:21:36 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 26 12:19:46 2016.

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I am frustrated by the MTAPD/Amtrak PD's inability or unwillingness to keep the homeless out of the various eating establishments

Ferguson effect?

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jul 26 13:52:15 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 26 12:19:46 2016.

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Take the top floor of the post office building turn it into a homeless dorm, and remove people to that location. Their Choice... Up there to down to the station house for trespassing.

ROAR

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by The Silence on Tue Jul 26 14:27:13 2016, in response to NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 26 11:18:59 2016.

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After Comrade Wilhelm took office, I noticed a bunch of homeless/unemployed people sitting around in the small triangle park under the Myrtle El at Forest Ave who'd never been there before.

They seemed to have been some sort of problem that the Parks Department took away the park benches, so now these guys plop themsevels on the stairs to the station.


I've also noticed an increase in people asking for money on the L. Some of whom look like Podunk types that got chewed up and spit out.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 26 17:11:24 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 11:46:27 2016.

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Oh shut the fuck up...

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 17:33:10 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 26 17:11:24 2016.

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...pu kcuf eht tuhs ,ho.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Steamdriven on Tue Jul 26 21:26:58 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 11:46:27 2016.

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That's the truth, but no one wants to hear it.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 26 22:04:00 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Steamdriven on Tue Jul 26 21:26:58 2016.

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What the hell..
You know..living in this world,its hard to miss whats going on In It...unless you have very large blinders on.

Its ever so easy to come here and TALK shit about the lessers...so easy to talk shit about vets...so easy to neatly put people in a 📦 so YOU can define them by YOUR standards..
It SO fucking easy...yet nobody is willing to cut the bullshit,look at the madness,and do something about it.

I did..everyday..for a number of YEARS,and YOU know what.?
People are STILL FUCKED UP...and its NOT GOING TO STOP because people are happiest when they are either feeling horrible..fucking whining about some shit....or tooting the fucking horn over some self indulgence mind detonating fuckerary that nobody gives a fuck about!

See?
Now THAT'S THE SHIT Nobody wants to hear!
No ammount of Republican wraps Fucktard asskissing factoids can cover up the TRUTH about the self serving assholes who try to wrap that fish with a American Flag and call it PATRIOTIC Freeballing!

REAL TRUTH can be ugly...ugly as every nightmare ever..
We deal...and move on.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Steamdriven on Tue Jul 26 23:04:39 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 26 22:04:00 2016.

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Relax, guy. Life's too short.

It's great that you did something (homeless volunteer work?). The homeless aren't a blob, they got to the same place by different routes. Some of the did not choose that route, many did. I think you saw that if you worked with the homeless for any length of time.

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 27 13:27:20 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 26 12:19:46 2016.

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Why is it scary? Just say no, you can't help them. And it is up to the store employees (and the managers, and ultimately the owners) to decide how to deal with such happenings on their turf.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 27 13:30:47 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 11:46:27 2016.

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Your views intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Posted by chud1 on Wed Jul 27 13:33:48 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 27 13:27:20 2016.

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IAWTP!
chud1.


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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 27 14:22:05 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jul 26 13:52:15 2016.

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Excellent idea!

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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 27 14:24:39 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 27 13:27:20 2016.

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Most of these store managers are afraid to do anything. So are their corporate bosses.

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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Jul 27 16:42:32 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 26 17:11:24 2016.

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+1

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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 27 20:39:13 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Steamdriven on Tue Jul 26 23:04:39 2016.

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Im Not tight..Im just driving home the point about the Human Condition...and How None of us live on our own private island.
In Some way,we are All CONNECTED..
Mentally,there is something Seriously wrong with the homeless,to be comfortable with being undomiciled.

There is Something seriously wrong with people,when they can go off on a full scale bloody meltdown crapfest on the most downtrodden of us.

There is a SERIOUS PROBLEM with people,when that DISCONNTION turns into downright scorn fulled with vile hatred.

These People wont be going ANYWHERE...until there are ENOUGH OF THOSE that are willing to NOT DISMISS them as SOMEBODY'S ELSE'S PROBLEM.

Thats what I was saying...didnt want smyone to misunderstand.

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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 27 20:55:32 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 11:46:27 2016.

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Had you ever consider that some of those people you hate so much,might be oone of those vets you are tossinh your PATRIOTIC laurals on?
Had you ever thought of how some of those people might be mentally Ill?
Or just had a hard time making it?
Or perhaps,part of that illness Might be a drug problem?

Again...its Easy to be that dude,the one who turns up his nose..to scorn..to criticize.
It's EASY to look,laugh,disrespect..without thinking about WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED to them to Cause such a fate.
So easy...
In some ways,They possess something we dont.
They are more FREE to do whatever they like.

But,they are Prisoners,also.
I COULD EXPLAIN,but I doubt You will grasp the analogy.
Its So easy to hate,yet so hard to find and give love.

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 27 21:30:35 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 27 20:39:13 2016.

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It's the Jews' fault, right?

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Posted by shiznit1987 on Wed Jul 27 21:56:38 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 27 20:39:13 2016.

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I believe that the homeless deserve all the love, compassion and dignity anyone deserves. You'll find no disagreement with me on that front.

Where I come in is that it's a two way street. Yes, society can be quite cruel about homelessness, but I do think people need to *want* better for themselves to have better for themselves. NYC is not Alabama, we have a very, very deep safety net and one does have the right to question how come the more we seem to spend on "solutions" the more we seem to have "problems". No matter how much money and resources are thrown at the problem it grows and grows. I give food when I see beggars because I don't want my money going up someone's nose or in someone's vain and I think most people are right to feel this way w/o being guilt-tripped.

I think most reasonable people want an honest conversation about how to best solve this problem that balances compassion with realism. No one wants to live in Calcutta. There has to be a better way.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 27 22:11:39 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 27 20:55:32 2016.

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IAWTP !!!
go ahead

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jul 27 22:27:31 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 27 21:30:35 2016.

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It's Geraldo Rivera's fault.


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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:35:43 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 27 14:24:39 2016.

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There are indeed slip-&-fall lawyers that'll take on homeless plaintiffs.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 02:37:46 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by shiznit1987 on Wed Jul 27 21:56:38 2016.

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thank you for that.
I appreciate your candor.

Throwing money at the problem only makes the problem worse,in some ways.
Money wont exactly solve the Mental illness,but it would go a long way to provide financial assistance towards treatment(long or short term) For the various stages,and root causes/conditions.
You cannot give an mentally ill person cash,and expect them to pick up where from where they may have fell off.

Some of those people have acute behavioral issue,dependent on medication..and other factors to be taken under consideration.
There is no universal cure all,but what is worse...the Attempt,or sit back and do NOTHING?


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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 02:53:38 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 27 21:30:35 2016.

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😄
If thats what helps YOU sleep at night...
I have a Very close jewish friend,who is like a brother to me.
We were next door neighbors as kids...moved away..hooked back up as adults...
Saturday's,occasionally,our families gather for a meal or two at his home.
This has been somewhat of an tradition between us,since our parents did something similar back in the days,so to speak.

Do I blame my best friends,and his parents?
Or,do I blame the self absorbed greedy narcissist,who could be anyone?

Who IS the blame,if there IS someone To blame?

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 07:13:54 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 02:37:46 2016.

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And I appreciate when you're not an anti-Semitic racist!

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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:19:23 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 27 13:30:47 2016.

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hah. i mean, sure. you can log on at "wishihadawatermelon.com". use "littlerascal" as user name.

obviously (i suppose...), jk.



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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:19:23 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 27 13:30:47 2016.

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hah. i mean, sure. you can log on at "wishihadawatermelon.com". use "littlerascal" as user name.

obviously (i suppose...), jk.



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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:19:23 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 27 13:30:47 2016.

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hah. i mean, sure. you can log on at "wishihadawatermelon.com". use "littlerascal" as user name.

obviously (i suppose...), jk.



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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:19:23 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 27 13:30:47 2016.

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hah. i mean, sure. you can log on at "wishihadawatermelon.com". use "littlerascal" as user name.

obviously (i suppose...), jk.



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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:21:00 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:19:23 2016.

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sorry folks...i stutter sometimes.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:27:56 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 27 20:55:32 2016.

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you clearly read ONLY what you wanted to. I SAID, you alive, healthy, in possession of all your limbs...and have a shitload of free time...go volunteer at a v.a. facility. help out the folk that made it possible for you to hang out at a train station ALL day and night. this "oh, I can't do that, I'm mental" bushwah is in most cases plain ol' crap.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jul 28 08:25:27 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jul 26 11:46:27 2016.

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You ARE aware that many Americans are just one bad day at work away from homelessness, aren't you?

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:27:23 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jul 28 08:25:27 2016.

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In doubt he's aware of anything. He isn't too swift. But that said, do explain. Because I find your claim high on bluster and low on fact.

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:28:03 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jul 28 08:25:27 2016.

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Also, respond to all the posts made in response to your earlier posts. Have some respect.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 09:11:52 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jul 27 13:27:20 2016.

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And it is up to the store employees (and the managers, and ultimately the owners) to decide how to deal with such happenings on their turf

Is it now? Thought that Comrade Wilhelm would not allow such autonomy on private property? Hence the presence of these camps.

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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 10:13:52 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jul 28 08:25:27 2016.

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well now. les' see. currently working avg. 75 hours a week, 6 p.m. to 6 a.m., 6 nights a week. driving a taxi outta babylon. with "maybe" 3 hours sleep per day. an' i'm 62. so yeah, i know all about it, karnak.

but no worries, slick. i do 50 pushups, 50 sittups, fifty jumping jacks, and 50 stretches, every time i wake up, and before i get to sleep walk a mile or two, i never get sick, have no aches or pains, and am some kinda handsome...plus, if it matters...bangin' a chick more than half my age. ummm'm., im living in my car at for now.

any more questions?

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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Jul 28 11:42:53 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by chud1 on Wed Jul 27 13:33:48 2016.

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Homeless people have bad attitudes as we have a hike and bike trail called the Springwater corridor that hundreds of these homeless are illegally camping next to and are in daily fights with homeowners as some are even trying to camp on their property, the mayor of Portland was to have a clean sweep of this area Aug 1st but changed it to Sept which made matters worse with the homeowners and people using this trail. It's been a problem for several years as these people are just down right nasty to everyone. Karl

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 14:22:14 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 07:13:54 2016.

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Plainly speaking,you are an ass.
Always have been...confirmed.

As Serious as this topic has been...of course YOU WANT IT to be about YOU.
You need the attention..whether it be Good or bad,the hell with EVERYTHING ELSE..lets start flaming folks so the BRIAN'S LOW BROWED SUB THREAD can reign over everything relevant.

CHA$ CHING$!

Right,boy?

I adressed you...directly,concerning your accusation,clearly..concisely.

But,If you Really want to go there...go on.
Lets see where Ive been documented making these so called " anti semitic " ravings.
Use goggle..its always been you friend,right boy?

As for your attempt to smear me...please..
Much better than you have tried,and you are Nothing in comparison.

So,whats up...gonna run like the ASSHOLE you've ALWAYS been..or are you gonna bring definitive proof this time.?


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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 14:30:53 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:28:03 2016.

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Respect...
For YOU...

😒.
I think this reaching your doing has affected your reasoning.
EVERYONE believes you are an Ass.

And since this Is about homelessness..you might want to address the topic,instead of being the usual asshole

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 15:02:27 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:27:56 2016.

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Look,brah.

Ive worked with All types of folks.
From the disabled to those play acting...to those who are just down on their luck...to the clinical Insane.
Families...singles..couples..all walks of life.
I heard the stories..the tales...and the horrors.

I know what you meant...and I heard THAT BEFORE too.
All Im saying to you,is things arent Always so cut and dry as you might THINK.
What you SEE might Not be all there is to their story.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 15:05:54 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by ntrainride on Thu Jul 28 07:27:56 2016.

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And Ive heard the excuses,too.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 17:34:58 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 07:13:54 2016.

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Or,are you going too do your usual?
Badger,run...talk more twisted foolishness..change around whole paragraphs...outright LIE,then say you didn't,go find the "proof"I did...crap.

That's what your planing,boy?
CHA CHING$...right,boy?

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jul 28 17:47:56 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 09:11:52 2016.

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The way things are going for Comrade Wilhelm nowadays, he's one step closer to being evicted from City Property AKA City Hall.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 18:14:52 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 09:11:52 2016.

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Thing is...how would you know?
Are you intimately involved with him,or his politics?
And,since when did our mayor become "comrade"?

Also,when did city politics become so important to you?
I mean,essentially,it shouldn't even be on your radar since you dont even live there...not of great importance to you,or your stature,right?
Oh..now I get it...
Democrat liberal, black wife hence the interracial marriage thing..mulatto children...running the greatest city on the face of the planet.
Must stick in your craw that Lota didn't win the election,huh?

Heh..I know.
We are All entitled to an opinion over politics..whether,local or national.
Just bustin on ya,comrade.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jul 28 19:05:17 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 02:37:46 2016.

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My thing is the city needs to shift away from the shelter system and start putting people (especially families) in actual HOUSING. And yes, if that means setting people up with an apartment in New Jersey or even Texas then so be it. Start setting up a housing voucher system and shut down the shelters once and for all. Once people get that part straightened out, then we can move on to the root causes (Rehab, Mental Health services, Domestic Violence assistance, etc)

The other side of it that is far more controversial is I do believe it should be illegal to stay on the street. Since NYS is legally required to provide housing, then as a counterbalance we also should make sleeping in the street/subway system illegal. Accept help or go somewhere else. I know that sounds harsh, but compassion slices two ways. I do want to see the homeless helped (my family was homeless for 6 months in DC in the 1990s), but I don't want my trains/parks/sidewalks taken over. It's only *fair*.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 28 19:11:36 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jul 28 19:05:17 2016.

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Thanks.

I believe housing will be confiscated to achieve your goal.

A widow in Middle Village in a 2 or 3 BR will see her home seized or ridiculously taxed, in order to house low income families, most likely immigrants, with lots of kids.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 28 19:26:12 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 14:30:53 2016.

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False! LOL! You so dumb, Edwards!

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 28 19:26:25 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:27:23 2016.

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bump

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