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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016 With all the NTT looking alike, and the diversity of subway trains disappearing, I'd like to know:What's the oldest NYC Subway car you have ever ridden on? One proviso: Not on a train on a museum line or a fan special - has to have been in regular revenue service on the NYC subway itself. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 16 02:54:38 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Either the cars on the Myrtle to Bridge-Jay 66-69or contemporary 3rd Ave El. Runner up, the "standards" on the 14th St Line in the same period. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 16 03:55:58 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 16 02:54:38 2016. I've ridden IND cars that said "City of New York" on the side hundreds of times. R1/9 I think?I've once each ridden the Myrtle Avenue El its full length to Jay Street and the Third Avenue El in the Bronx. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 16 04:10:03 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Oldest? Had to be the MUDC's on the Third Avenue El. Weird floors, I was very young at the time but dropped a penny on the floor. They had these really weird slats, much like duck boards in fish shops. Hard to get your penny back. :)Also did the Q cars on the Myrt, and of course plenty of HiV's and LoV's on the Aye-Ar-Tee. |
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Posted by renee gil on Thu Jun 16 05:24:36 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Oldest NYC Subway car I have ever ridden on? R-10s on the A Line. The fastest R-10 ride I have ever ridden on was on a Far Rockaway-bound A train on the CPW Express. R-10s would bounce on the tracks going in both directions. Loud and fast -- that's the way the R-10's were, just how I liked it. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 16 06:57:00 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. R1. I distinctly remember riding car #104 in 1975 or so. I noticed it because my school bus had the same number. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jun 16 07:25:47 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. HiV's, LowV's on the IRT, and Standards on the BMT. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 16 07:54:37 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 16 04:10:03 2016. ditto the LION... 3rd Av in Manhattan, I remember little by was with M&D post visit to the Bronx Zoo. I'm sure it did not cost $30 back in those days.ROAR |
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Posted by milantram on Thu Jun 16 08:14:00 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. For me, Third Avenue El MUDCs and the Gibbs Hi-Vs. |
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Posted by BMRR on Thu Jun 16 08:42:51 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Q types & standards going to high school. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Thu Jun 16 08:54:28 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Definitely the Q-cars on the Myrtle Av. El. In service from 1903 to 1969.Bob |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Jun 16 09:12:32 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. The Q's on the Myrtle Ave. El. I may have ridden on the gate cars, but I was too young to remember. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 16 09:58:01 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Oldest in regular service? 1300 series BUs on the Myrt.If I can count modified cars, it would have been one of the Qs that had been converted from a 1200 series BU, but I wouldn't have known which Qs those were back in the day. And we can still ride 1273, but not in regular service. |
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Posted by MR RT on Thu Jun 16 10:04:52 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Dave on Thu Jun 16 07:25:47 2016. Have operated HiV 3662 ... |
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Posted by Dan on Thu Jun 16 10:08:57 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. BMT Standards on the Culver Shuttle, probably early 1968. Possibly rode Myrtle Ave 'Q' cars once, maybe 1965. |
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Posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 16 10:27:07 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Now you do realize saying in regular passenger service means we can claim the in regular service museum runs on the subway... |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 16 10:51:12 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 16 10:27:07 2016. Now you do realize saying in regular passenger service means we can claim the in regular service museum runs on the subway...Does not apply. Museum cars that were officially retired, resurrected and run for special events do not make that claim. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 16 10:51:45 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by MR RT on Thu Jun 16 10:04:52 2016. HAVE OPERATED CAR "G"AS A 2 CAR TRAIN WITH 1227.CUPCAKES DID THE SAME. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 16 10:54:21 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by GIS Man on Thu Jun 16 08:54:28 2016. Q CARS WEREN`T BUILT UNTIL 1939 FOR THE WORLDS FAIR. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 16 10:58:09 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. 1) BMT Q Type (really an elevated car)2) BMT Standards on the Brighton, Sea Beach, West End, Myrtle-Chambers and Canarsie line. 3) Low V-s Bronx 3rd Ave, Franklin Shuttle (Steel "c" types) 4) BMT D Types on the Brighton, West End & Sea Beach Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 16 11:12:46 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 16 04:10:03 2016. If IIRC, the MUDC's on the Third Avenue El. All i remember is they were very old, and bucked and snorted.This was in the 1970's? |
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Posted by Joe on Thu Jun 16 11:19:13 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. I had to use the Interborough Fleet roster at nycsubway.org to sort out some early memories along the Broadway-7th Avenue subway. Boarding at Marble Hill (West 225th Street), the first car would often be a deck-roof motor, and there was a railfan window low enough for my eyes and nose.--- However, from what I figure out on the roster, we would sometimes encounter a Lenox Avenue local south of 96th Street with either a full-width cab or a door window that was too high for me to see out front. I presume these would be among the 300 Gibbs Motors (3350-3649) still hanging around the system, and older than the deck-roofs. --- The Broadway-7th Ave. expresses that we rode from Marble Hill could have "armstrong" doors on the first and 10th cars because conductors were nearby. Sometimes, and it was rarely seen, a five-car train on a Lenox local would have 4 conductors, all cars being "armstrong." |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 16 11:42:26 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. For me, a BMT Standard. I remember riding one with my older brother boarding at 65th St, Woodside twoards Manhattan.My first reaction was how would anyone know where the train goes without any front end roll signs?? |
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Posted by GIS Man on Thu Jun 16 11:45:21 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 16 10:54:21 2016. See "Q Types" on this page:http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_BMT_Fleet_(Elevated,_Subway,_Experimental) They may have been rebuilt in 1939. Bob |
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Posted by chud1 on Thu Jun 16 11:52:01 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 16 10:27:07 2016. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this video of my favorite trains.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by GIS Man on Thu Jun 16 11:53:39 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 16 11:42:26 2016. My mother knew the headlight color codes on the Low-V's, at least enough to know a New Lots-bound train from a Flatbush-bound.Bob |
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Posted by Asgard on Thu Jun 16 12:22:42 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Gibbs.If you include el as well as subway, either Gibbs, MUDC or Q, depending on when the individual el cars I rode were built. |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Jun 16 12:27:15 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. R27 and R30 on the M plus the old redbirds before they were redbirds on the IRT lines |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 16 12:30:57 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Myrtle Avenue El, from Jay to Broadway, 1956.I expected to see arrows from Indian wars, sticking out of the sides. They had open air gates. Not sure of the type. |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Thu Jun 16 13:23:32 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. I rode a Composite on the Polo Frounds Shuttle in 1948 and a real early Gibbs car Pilot model on the Lenox Ave local in the early 50's. |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Thu Jun 16 13:23:47 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. I rode a Composite on the Polo Frounds Shuttle in 1948 and a real early Gibbs car Pilot model on the Lenox Ave local in the early 50's. |
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Posted by GonzoUSN on Thu Jun 16 13:38:04 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. R1/9 in the early 1970'S on the CC. R-10's on the A. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 16 13:41:47 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 16 11:12:46 2016. The title was SUBWAY cars not el cars. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 16 13:44:50 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 16 10:54:21 2016. The originals were built long before that. The time for the World’s fair was a REBUILD. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 16 13:45:02 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 16 13:41:47 2016. randyo, randyo, randyo... |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 16 13:48:07 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Joe on Thu Jun 16 11:19:13 2016. Sometimes a 137 St local would also be all manual door cars referred to by the employees as “battleships” or battleship door cars. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jun 16 13:50:19 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. What's the oldest NYC Subway car you have ever ridden on?Possibly R-17. Otherwise, R-26/28/29. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 16 13:53:41 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Gibbs cars on the IRT Bway Exp and Lcl. If you could el cars, then the BUs on Myrtle and MUDCs on the 3 Av El. If you consider the condition of the Qs and Cs as rebuilds from cars that were older then I also rode those and was a M/M on the Qs, BMT steels, and also operated Lo-Vs as a switchman in Concourse and 207 St Yd. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Jun 16 13:55:16 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. Around 1964-65 when I was very small, I rode the H&M on one of the elder steel cars with my dad from Hoboken to Hudson Terminal, his office then was at 90 West St. We rode the first car and the end door was open, nice for ventilation, but it smelled wierd and crap from the RoW kept flying into the car. Couldn't tell you which series train it was, but it did have the arched windows. I also remember the cars being rather dirty.A short time later, might have been the same day as above, we rode a set of BMT AB Standards uptown on Broadway. Most side windows were open, and I remember it being very loud and crowded with clunking stuff under the floor. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 16 13:55:58 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 16 12:30:57 2016. From 1950-1958, the 1300 series gate cars were used on the Myrtle Ave el. They were phased out during the summer of 1958, when the ex-3rd Ave el "Q" cars were place into service there. I remember riding the 1300's, also, before the changeover. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 16 14:12:25 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 16 10:51:12 2016. By that logic you could extend the D-type retirement date by about a decade or so for regular intervals on the Culver Shuttle. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 16 14:13:49 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 16 11:12:46 2016. If it was MUDCs, I think the latest would be 1954, unless they ran some on the Bronx stub after then. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 16 14:15:55 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 16 11:42:26 2016. Yeah, I gotcha. But think of it this way- any A/B stand on the Queens Blvd line would have been a BMT-Broadway (Manhattan run). Today's R train.AFAIK, they were never assigned to any IND runs (I know it was considered in '66- but it wasn't done) |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 16 14:16:48 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 16 13:48:07 2016. How late? I don't recall ever seeing one, or maybe I saw one and didn't know what I was looking at. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 16 14:35:52 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 16 10:51:45 2016. Steve, they want to know what were the oldest cars you rode. Like when you were a kid and the gate cars you used to ride were just converted from electricity from steam locomotives! |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Jun 16 14:39:53 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 16 02:54:38 2016. When I was 8 in 1952 my parents rode the BMT 1300 series gate cars from Fresh Pond Rd when we just moved to in the adjacent apartment house there and I was forever hooked on rapid transit from then on, I rode these cars along with the Standards and the Multi's as well with my friends in later years for joy rides, then rode the Q cars for four years to George Westinghouse V.T.C. high school in lower Brooklyn at 49 Flatbush Extension and still later the Standards to work every day ...... damn I'm missing those days LOL. Karl |
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Posted by Renee gil on Thu Jun 16 14:44:57 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by GIS Man on Thu Jun 16 11:53:39 2016. headlight color codesMarker lights? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 16 14:48:29 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Jun 16 14:39:53 2016. It was a little later for me and in Chicago, but around age 11 I started exploring the CTA system. surelyliked the railfan seat in the 6000s. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Jun 16 14:48:46 2016, in response to Re: Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 16 13:55:58 2016. Then what was used BEFORE 1950 on the Myrtle Ave el ? thanks. Karl |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 16 14:52:42 2016, in response to Oldest NYC Subway car you ever rode on NYC Subway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jun 16 02:08:50 2016. I rode the 1300's and the "Q's' on Myrtle Ave. Also rode the 3rd Ave el "Q's' once, going south to Chatham Square in the AM rush hour and taking the MUDC Vestibules northbound, back to the Bronx. |
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