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Posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016 For the MTA folks here, What has been the most confusing or irregular service pattern over the years in service? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 3 15:03:49 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. The A. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jan 3 15:12:50 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. The day the fare went up to 10c.Charlie could not get off of that train! |
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Posted by Joe on Sun Jan 3 15:35:33 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. Two excellent answers so far, from Terrapin Station and Broadway Lion. However, I would say that the Ind/BMT division has had competitors to the A's complexity. I recall the A being lengthened from Rockaway Avenue to Broadway-ENY, and later was excited about the extension to Euclid through modern stations. Those were simple changes. However, the introduction of some trains to some destination or other on the Rockaway Peninsula, not only added confusion but halved or quartered the service in some segments. Nowadays, it feels like ages, waiting for an A at Penn Station, because it shares Central Park West with the D. Then the A goes to or arrives from two destinations in far away Queens.--- But also, since letter designations were added to the Southern Division, the West End has had T, TT, B, M and D. |
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Posted by Andy on Sun Jan 3 15:37:19 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. The old BMT southern division lines between Brooklyn and Manhattan and Queens, since the 1967 opening of Chrystie Street. Only one that has remained basically unchanged since 1967 is the F. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 3 16:08:04 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. The RJ. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 16:36:10 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. Depending on what you mean by “over the years,” I would say that the IRT service pattern of the early to mid 1950s was the most confusing and irregular. Bway Exps (1) ran V/C - N/Lts M - F except during midnight hours when it went to Flatbush. Weekends it went to Flatbush around the clock. Bway Lcls (1) ran 137 - So/Fy M - F from about 600 AM to midnight. 7 Av West Farms Exp (2) ran from Bx Pk (and from E-180 after the Bx Pk spur closed) to Flatbush from about 600 AM to midnight except on weekends when it went to N/Lts. Sometime in the mid 1950s, the south terminals for the Bway and West Farms exps were swapped and Bway ran to Flatbush 24/7 and West Farms ran to N/Lts during its hours of operation. 7 Av /Lenox Lcls (3) ran 145 St - So Fy during the same hours as the 137 St Lcls except that the Lenox service ran on weekends. Lex/Jerome exps (4) ran from Woodlawn to Utica from about during AM and PM rush M - F midday to Atlantic then post PM rush Woodlawn to So/Fy and midnights Woodlawn to N/Lts. Weekends Jerome ran on midnights the same as M - F but from 600A to late PMs ran Woodlawn to So/Fy. Lex Wh Pl Rd exps (5) ran from about 600 AM till about midnight M - F from 241 St to Utica AM and PM rush till midnights and Atlantic Av middays with selected trains going to Flatbush during rush hours. Weekends it ran from 241 St to Utica from about 600 AM till midnight. Midnights all 7 days, 145 St was closed and 7 Av Lenox service was provided by 7 Av lcls (2) between 241 St Wh Pl Rd and So/Fy which also replaced the Lex Wh Pl Rd which did not run on midnights. I’m not entirely familiar with the Pelham (6) service pattern other than that it ran pretty much the same as it does today between either Pelham or Parkchester and Bkln Br. I’m not sure whether it ran to So/Fy on midnights so I’m not sure whether the Bwlg Grn Shuttle ran midnights or not. I do know that during the late 1970s, till Lex service to So/Fy was eliminated completely, midnight 6s ran to So/Fy. Over the years the service patterns changed slightly with weekend and late PM W/L and Wh Pl Rd service swapping south terminals between Utica and So/Fy. It’s interesting to note that while there was no midday M-F Bkln exp service back then, there was post PM rush and weekend exp service in Bkln. After Feb, 1959, the west side IRT service pattern changed so that all Bway service ran lcl and all Lenox service both 145 St and E 180 ran exp with the midnight 241 St service providing midnight 7 Av exp service. Also during that period, the Dyre Av Line was connected to the Wh Pl Rd line and alt 7 Av exps ran to Dyre except on late PMs and midnights. At that time there was no midnight service to Dyre and a shuttle ran between Dyre and E 180 on late PMs. Sometime in 1965, the north terminals of the Lex and 7 Av Bronx services were swapped and 241 St became the full time terminal for the 7 Av (2) Exp and E 180 and Dyre became the full time terminals for the Lex (5). Also the Bkln services were changed and Woodlawn trains provided the Flatbush/Lex service. Over the years the south terminals of the 2 and 3 were swapped back and forth between N/Lts and Flatbush but those changes and some others are too numerous to mention here. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 16:50:02 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 16:36:10 2016. Interesting! Being you mentioned IRT, I just seen a flyer on Ebay an hour ago talking about a service change to the IRT routes in 1965 to elievate confusion regarding Bway Services and something with the Lex Ave side. That must be it!Over the years I meant at any point you MTA guys could remember, |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 3 17:41:36 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. At least into the '50s, the IRT had multiple destinations and variants. There were large sign boards on some express stations detailing hours that certain trains went to various Brooklyn terminals, for example.Even now, despite the TA attempts to avoid alternative stops and routings, look at some of the variations on the 4 and 6 services. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 17:43:05 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 3 17:41:36 2016. I notice it more on the 4 and 5, sometimes the 2 still but nothing like randyo has stated. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 3 17:59:23 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 17:43:05 2016. The IRT, as Randy noted, was by the most chaotic of the systems but the BMT also had an eye for variants , such as Nassau Street specials, multiple destinations and, in elevated days, expresses on two-track lines that skipped stations, like the J-Z now except that some services skipped stops while others made all stops on the same line.Only the pre-1956 IND had routes more less cast in stone. The only major variant I can recall was that the Central Park local was the BB and CC in rush hours and the AA at all other times. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 18:25:15 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 16:50:02 2016. That change between Bway and Lex services sounds like the one. Actually, within my time in scheduling, the biggest change I remember on the IRT was the swapping of the south terminals between the 2 and the 3 and along with that swapping the south terminals of the 4 and 5. Prior to 1983, the 3 ran between 148 and Flatbush during the hours it operated and on midnights the 4 operated into Flatbush along with the 3s during rush hours and to Atlantic middays and Utica on late PMs and weekends other than midnights. The 2 operated 24/7 to N/Lts and the 5s operated to Utica during rush hours, and Bwlg Grn middays, post rush PMs and weekends except for midnights when it did not operate at all. the swapping of the 2 and 3 was necessitated by the reassignment of the car maintenance and inspection away from 240 Barn the N/Lts so by making the 3 a N/Lts service when it was operated, it was easier to get the 3 Line equipment to its proper maintenance facility. As originally planned, the 4 and 5 were to remain mostly unchanged except that the 4 would run the N/Lts on the midnight instead of Flatbush and then go to Flatbush for the rush. However, that would have given the 4 four south terminals not including Bwlg Grn where some trains turned during rush hours. I recommended sending the 5 into Flatbush during the hours the 4s ran there and sending the 4 to Utica except midday when it ran to Atlantic and midnights when it ran to N/Lts. My recommendation was accepted and the present service pattern was established which has since been modified so that 5s run to Flatbush all day till after the PM rush when they continue turning at Bwlg Grn. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 18:28:57 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 18:25:15 2016. I Imagine due to the number of varients headways were crazy on all lines back then! What made these lines so diversed was the demographics at the time so prevalent that each southern end terminal warranted such number of routes? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 18:38:06 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 3 17:59:23 2016. I found that except for the Nassau St specials which were a rush hour only service, the BMT was also pretty consistent. From what I have seen of the BMT el services, the only 2 track line that had a skip stop was the 5 Av although the 14 St Line also had a so called express which bypassed all the stations between Lorimer and Myrtle. The rest of the bMT service was pretty consistent, the only drastic change being after the Brighton Exp stopped running in the PM the Brighton Lcl ran via the bridge instead of the tunnel. As for the ind, one of the old timers in the schedule office mentioned to me that one of the schedule makers had proposed having the AA run 24/7 and having the rush hour Concourse Lcl be a DD between Bed Pk and 34/6. He was shut down by the higher ups at the time who insisted that the Wash Hts and Concourse branches should each have an 8th and a 6th Ave service. I wonder what those naysayers would say now! |
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Posted by zac on Sun Jan 3 21:16:28 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Sun Jan 3 17:41:36 2016. I remember a board at Franklin explaining when Lexington Ave service stopped there, and how Sat/Sun service was so particular, down to the minute. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 23:46:14 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 18:38:06 2016. What determines the local versus express, does demographics surrounding the end terminals a significant factor? Also, I don't see why both segments required both services. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 4 01:20:36 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 23:46:14 2016. From a previous message:"What determines the local versus express, does demographics surrounding the end terminals a significant factor? Also, I don't see why both segments required both services." Both the Sixth Avenue and the Eighth Avenue Manhattan trunks were to handle a route or service from each of the branches, where the branches are Washington Heights, Concourse & Queens Blvd. The Brooklyn branches usually did not get the same variations of service. For example, the Eighth Avenue line would have the A & AA (from Washington Heights express & local), the C & CC (Concourse express and local), and the E (the Queens Blvd express-Manhattan local). While the Sixth Avenue trunk would have the BB (Washington Heights local - often referred to as the B), the D (Concourse express), and F (Queens Blvd. express). The other thing that should be noted was the rush hour was a big deal, and had the most ridership! Mike |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jan 4 02:43:33 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 16:36:10 2016. I have been shown one of those MTA service history guides from the 90s, do you think all the service changes in your post would be listed? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 09:02:00 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 16:36:10 2016. I enjoy your posts, but would greatly appreciate if you could skip a line every now and then. :) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 09:18:48 2016, in response to Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Sun Jan 3 14:00:14 2016. I read over this thread so far but still am not quite sure of the question. But here's stuff that comes to mind:There was a crazy GO one Saturday in the early 2000s when the R was broken up into 3 segments, including a single-track shuttle on the northbound (?) local track between Pacific and either 25th or 36th/4th while a different R segment (the one to Manhattan and Queens) was running 4th Ave Express. The southbound N ran 4th Ave local (again, I think) and then ran Brighton Express northbound. This was complicated by some kind of explosion the same day that sent trains rampant seemingly randomly around the system. Es and Fs ended up in BMT territory, Bay Ridge, Sea Beach and the like. It was probably one of the craziest days in system history though it doesn't get talked about too much. I wish I could remember the date and search SubTalk. I think the D was still the regular Brighton service though. I'm not sure what they did with the B (West End) that day. The 9/11 changes were of course quite intriguing, with the J and M running 24/7 service to Bay Ridge and Sea Beach respectively, and, of course, many other systemwide changes. The return to service from Sandy saw the M train as Queens Blvd Express from Roosevelt Ave to Jamaica Center, and there were times on other GOs when the R visited Jamaica Center. Sometime in the late 90s I think they were fixing Lenox Ave and only 1 track was available. The 2 and 5 had to switch trunk lines in certain directions so you found 2s on Lexington and 5s on 7th Ave regularly. In terms of routine service not impacted by an external event, the M has to have had the most varied history. At one point or another it's been to so many places - Brighton, West End, Sea Beach, 6th Ave / Queens Blvd. It's been 4th Ave Express and Local, and Bway-Brooklyn Express and Local. But if you clarify your question a bit, maybe I can answer in a better way. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 10:47:16 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by zac on Sun Jan 3 21:16:28 2016. Yes, down to the minute.When they extended the Brighton Express to Astoria (same time that the Brighton Local went to Forest Hills) there were boards on each NB express station, specifying exactly when express trains began and ended service. The BMT also had signs in some locations which had a split flap that could be raised and lowered. The one I remember best was at Prospect Park SB, where the sign usually said "TRAINS TO BRIGHTON BEACH AND CONEY ISLAND" with the arrow pointing to A3 track. When the Brighton-Franklin ran it simply said "CONEY ISLAND TRAINS" with arrows pointing to both A1 and A3 tracks. Kind of like a primitive Solari board. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 10:54:00 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 10:47:16 2016. A friend told me he was waiting at Rockefeller Center for the M train to Brooklyn on Friday (which was New Year's Day). He waited over a half hour before finding an alternate route. Yes he should have done his homework, but still even just a simple little flip-dot light or something that indicates that a service is in operation at the moment or not would be helpful for some. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 12:06:19 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 10:54:00 2016. I agree. Now that they are putting information on electronic boards (as in countdown clocks) it would be good to know if a service is running or not running on a real-time basis. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Jan 4 12:18:11 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 12:06:19 2016. London has these:  MTA's on the go kiosks are sort of similar except for the fact that they keep changing to different screens instead of keeping the most important info on-screen at all times. Makes them pretty useless for on the fly info. |
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Posted by BusRider on Mon Jan 4 12:39:34 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 09:18:48 2016. You have and I thank you. The question was mainly for regular route service, as it may be obvious GO's always adds fun to the game. So the M and the IRT lines are at the top of the list. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 12:40:42 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Jan 4 12:18:11 2016. That's cool but not super informative. What does "Part Suspended" mean? What part? And Victoria: "Planned Closure." The entire line?Those things would be more useful to me than that the Circle Line is delayed because the German's forgot to ask for their WWII bomb back. |
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Posted by BusRider on Mon Jan 4 12:42:27 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 12:40:42 2016. I think its a start. New York is still in the past with a lot of things. |
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Posted by BusRider on Mon Jan 4 12:46:27 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 4 01:20:36 2016. So the swap allowed 6th Ave local service up the Concourse? If I'm correct, therefore each segment is to have access to as many trunks as possible (realistically speaking). If I'm wrong, then its capacity, being rush hour ridership was ideally much higher, in other words, PROVIDE AS MANY TRAINS as you can to as MANY DESTINATIONS, thus, both segments require both services. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 12:49:28 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Mon Jan 4 12:42:27 2016. The LIRR is now pretty good. Wasn't that long ago they had a dispatcher pull metal signs down at Jamaica. Now they list the trains with times, status and station stops, useful on a railroad where different trains call at different stations on the same line. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 13:01:08 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Mon Jan 4 12:46:27 2016. The IND planning was very orderly, even compulsive. One standard car for the whole system (until the R10), all platforms full-length, all flying junctions, all subway (almost) and a designation system that would make the USSR jealous:A, B, E -- 8th Avenue Line C, D, F -- 6th Avenue Line G and H -- Lines that didn't enter Manhattan A and C -- Washington Heights B and D -- Concourse E and F -- Queens Line Single letter Local Double letter express A little messier south of West 4th and of course all single letters, Christie Street and the B and C swap made all hell break loose. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Jan 4 13:25:29 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 13:01:08 2016. The B runs on 6th Ave and the C runs on 8th Ave. The C was the original Concourse Line service (even before the 6th Ave subway opened). |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 13:33:30 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon Jan 4 13:25:29 2016. Yes, I messed up the sequence, alternate letters.A,C,E - 8th Avenue B,D,F - 6th Avenue |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Jan 4 13:55:52 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 12:40:42 2016. They may be touch screens. If so, you'd click on the line in question to see the details about the closure. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:16:21 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 10:54:00 2016. The IND used to have something like that at 125 St. There were illuminated signs mounted on the columns between the express tracks that displayed either “For local stops on the Concourse Line take trains marked CC” or “Trains marked D make local stops on the Concourse Line” depending on how the service was running at the time. I do remember that years ago, the exact start and start times for part time services were displayed at the appropriate stations but when the suits came in to operations planning, that changed since almost every pick, schedules and resulting start and stop times for the various services changed by a minute or 2 and it would have been massive undertaking to change all the signs at every location that had them. I also recall seeing illuminated “Express not running” signs at certain stations although at this point I can’t recall their locations or even what division they were on. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:20:25 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 4 01:20:36 2016. Prior to Chrystie, the Wash Hts/6 Av lcl was the BB. After Chrystie, since it was a 6 Av express and no longer a local it was changed to the single letter B which denoted an express. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:28:02 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jan 4 02:43:33 2016. Probably, and since my list is not completely exhaustive, some of the slight variations in what I posted would probably be included as well. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:31:28 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 09:02:00 2016. I’m not sure if that would work. I have noticed that even when I type an indentation at the beginning of a paragraph, the indentation doesn’t show up on the finished post. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Mon Jan 4 14:44:50 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:31:28 2016. Here'swhat happens when I hit Enter twice after each word. The line breaks show up just fine. Indentation is a different matter. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 14:54:43 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by BusRider on Mon Jan 4 12:39:34 2016. Ok, so now that I have a better sense of what you're talking about, you may be interested in the line descriptions found on the top of some of the 1970s NYC subway maps. Some of them were quite specific and spelled everything out, like the F line in this one. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 15:27:45 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 14:54:43 2016. That is a TA map at near its most mechanistic. BMT, IND and IRT were sort of acknowledged but community names (like Canarsie, here shown as "Rockaway Parkway Glenwood Road) now on most terminals, were absent, and line names (Brighton, Culver, etc.) were too. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 15:40:53 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 15:27:45 2016. I think it funny how the MTA seems to "know" it's good to use line names but is scared to use them in any kind of formal announcement. Like they have no problem saying "Sea Beach Exp" or "Brighton Lcl" on the R160 side-signs but if there's any kind of rerouting they will say in voice announcements and often posted service advisories "via the N line" or "via the Q line." |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 16:02:22 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 4 15:40:53 2016. The way they figure that kind of mystifies me as well. I mean, if a Q train is rerouted to the N line, and makes N stops, then it seems to me that it has become an N train as far as passengers are concerned, so what's the point of saying "This is a Q train running on the N line"? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 4 16:33:53 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:31:28 2016. No one else seems to have this problem. Just press Return or Enter when you want a new paragraph. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:41:21 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:31:28 2016. No one is asking for indentation. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 4 16:43:14 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:31:28 2016. That's normal with the way that Larry has the place designed. It reaps any "white space" and automatically moves a character to the first position in a sentence and removes any additional white space between words. So you can't indent and if you place more than one space between characters, it will reap any additional spaces or tabs and turn it into a single space.Can't do ASCII art here. There *is* a trick though that works if you need more than one space, or want to indent but it's a bit tedious. I have to post it as a graphic here because every browser on earth will recognize it as a space:  And voila, with one up front, you're now indented ... See? And for those who want to do the usual two, just two of those together: Like this. And it can be used to put additional spaces between words as well. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 4 16:56:21 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 4 16:43:14 2016. Interesting. But nothing on the site prevents one from skipping lines by pressing Enter or Return, which was the complaint about his posts. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 4 17:05:11 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 4 16:56:21 2016. Yep ... someone else already got that one, wanted to help Randy with the indentation thing since I know he wants to do things right as far as the presentation goes. :) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jan 4 22:44:03 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Mon Jan 4 14:31:28 2016. HTML is idiotic when it comes to indentation, a standard feature of written English-- it acts as though it does not exist and makes no useful provision for it. It also does not allow for multiple spaces; spaces in excess of one are ignored. The people who came up with HTML should be ashamed of themselves for disregarding an important feature of the written language. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jan 4 22:50:20 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 4 16:02:22 2016. If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 5 00:48:07 2016, in response to Re: Service Patterns, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 18:25:15 2016. You forgot to mention the 5 service that operated to South Ferry weekday evenings and all day weekends... |
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