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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:53:14 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:42:50 2015. I was treated unfairly by McGinty. I should keep quiet? An unnecessary beef over keys, what, he didn't like me having the keys? And I returned them! We all knew each other. I spent over 100 dollars in the TMNY gift shop on books, in addition to the $200 decals. What the fuck do I need to steal? I have the whole museum to myself as a volunteer, I don't need to take anything from there. Everything was right there where I wanted it and where it belonged. We were all in it together. McGinty just wanted me out. I tried to befriend him, but he wasn't having it. That does not make me a thief. He and Omar know that I was not a thief. If that situation happened to Omar or Carlos, McGinty would not have done that to them. Right McGinty? Or if that happened to little "Rick", you wouldn't kick him out, would you? |
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Posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:53:19 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:25:55 2015. Arjun is a weirdo.That is all. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:54:42 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:53:14 2015. Are you perpetuating the museum model minority myth? |
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Posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:54:59 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:53:19 2015. That's another thing. He didn't like the fact that I used to jokingly call him a pantywaist. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:55:31 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:39:00 2015. Saw it, posted it here, got blamed for it.I don'[t understand why you take such interest in killing the museum, especially after they've finally gotten their ass in gear this year. Whatever the politics involved, and that happens everywhere in non-profitland, going after Mike is unconscionable. The other cast of characters may or may not be saints, but going after Mike I have a serious problem with. He's a good man, always has been, and I've got a serious problem with that. |
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Posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:55:37 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:54:42 2015. He reads these threads fucker. |
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Posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:56:07 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:54:42 2015. I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe that's a good thing. |
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Posted by MTA T on Fri Dec 25 23:56:37 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:54:59 2015. He's just one of those fans who takes things seriously. Can't crack a joke with lots of people in the community. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:56:39 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:55:37 2015. Who, Freddy Kruger? I know that. :P |
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Posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:57:42 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:55:31 2015. I am just pointing out what is on the ground there. I never went after Mike. I have mad respect for him. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:58:04 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:56:07 2015. That's good. |
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Posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:58:38 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by MTA T on Fri Dec 25 23:56:37 2015. Let's go back to the 9899 foam fag fest. |
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Posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:58:59 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:58:04 2015. Very Good To Hear |
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Posted by MTA T on Fri Dec 25 23:59:02 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by TurboThePunk on Fri Dec 25 23:58:38 2015. Word mad good. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:10:19 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Fri Dec 25 23:37:55 2015. Mike was always "serious cat" until the job was DONE. He's OLD teeyay, learned how to run a railroad on nothing. And like most "do'ers," Mike has no room for other people's crap. That's why I've always respected him. ESPECIALLY for enduring it all there. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:19:58 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:54:59 2015. Arjun has stolen from NYCTA before. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:20:42 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:32:07 2015. I don't see how my posts are slander. In the first one, I am addressing them, in the second one, I am speaking about my relationship with one of them. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:21:02 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:57:42 2015. Then we're cool. I am nothing but dismayed at all this, and the museum's dirty laundry isn't helping what you're claiming is in the best interest of the equipment either. I seriously wish you'd all just STFU. Kingston has had MORE than enough problems without this on top of it.I'll take the current crew's words that they've repented and let's see what happens. Proof is in the work from here on in. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:22:48 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:21:02 2015. Mike personally is sick of the mismanagement of TMNY that is continuing to occur. This clique business going on up there is a serious problem, and I saw it firsthand when I was up there assisting with 143. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:24:39 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by priya12 on Fri Dec 25 23:31:48 2015. That is essentially what occurred. The person who is responsible for fact that ANY cars still exist, dissed and ignored. Shameful. |
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Posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 00:24:54 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:19:58 2015. That's where he got that vest! He said he has an uncle who works at the Coney Island shop. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:26:48 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 00:24:54 2015. Yeah, no.I know where he got that vest. Property protection does too. He's not supposed to have it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:28:48 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:22:48 2015. If Mike wants to comment on that, he's welcome to. Just PLEASE leave him out of this. |
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Posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 00:28:53 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:26:48 2015. Smh...and he is the SOB who claimed that I stole keys...he wanted to drag me out at night and steal shoe slippers from along the ROWs. Did McGinty axe him? Fuck no! |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:30:50 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 00:28:53 2015. Now I have no idea whether or not that is true, but I do know he has attempted to steal from museum cars on NYCTA property in the past. |
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Posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 00:34:03 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:30:50 2015. Oh, really? Was he arrested? He told me that he had a whole stash of subway-related equipment in his basement. He said the previous occupant of the house he lives in was a MM or CR and left it behind or something. He also told me of a chance he missed to get some subway pamphlets hidden behind a token booth in some area or other that dated from the 80s. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:36:44 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 00:34:03 2015. Yeah, no. That's all not true.People are aware of the regulars. He is one. |
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Posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 26 00:46:41 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:26:48 2015. He can do what he wants with that vest now as they are no longer authorized. |
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Posted by trains61 on Sat Dec 26 00:50:06 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Dec 25 23:00:49 2015. ENY Blitz 5107 Serious question. Have you thought about reaching out to Transit Tech in Bkyn N.Y. to get some restoration work done?It`s a Win/Win situation. The students gain expierence and the museum get some much needed work accomplished. The Lurkers` Guild East New York Graduate |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 01:09:28 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by trains61 on Sat Dec 26 00:50:06 2015. Ding!Someone set up a party bus with all the trimmings to Kingston, and definite win. :) |
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Posted by trains61 on Sat Dec 26 01:21:32 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 01:09:28 2015. Just a way to get stuff done. Another idea would be to loan out the Lo-V and R1/9 and the Q back to the NYCTM, get them in running order and participate on a view runs. They would eventually be returned to the Museum in question, but in pristine condition and running order.Just a thought... Goodnight, Lurkers` Guild signing off. Hope you had a good Xmas Unca Kev. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 01:33:25 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by trains61 on Sat Dec 26 01:21:32 2015. Sure did! :)And thanks for being sane. WAY too little of that around here lately. And yeah, nothing like having folks with real parts and real tools doing the work, even if you have to give it up for a few years. I have a lot more faith though in TMNY than I've had in years given what I've seen here from some of our cousins here lately. TMNY just might have a chance after all. What they REALLY need though is some loose change and some hands-on folks. As long as Unca Mike is still with us, we have better than 207/CIY experience on those cars. Mike maintained them when they were still "new." Heh. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 01:57:05 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 26 00:46:41 2015. Good point. However, he obtained it when they were.He is in no way innocent. Put it that way. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 01:58:46 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by priya12 on Fri Dec 25 23:12:08 2015. Shameful. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 02:35:59 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:42:01 2015. And that ... is EVERYTHING!For those who want those cars to actually turn wheel, when winter's done, get your asses up there. Like I've said in a few others, Kingston is backwoods "upstate New York." It's a poor county, the museum ain't going to be getting taxpayer money for this (unlike Brooklyn) and the ONLY way for it to survive is outside money, and people to do the work. Upstate is like that. Ulster is "republican mindset." It needs some "libruls" who can lend a hand because the taxpayers never would. If you really want to see it happen, it's "volunteer" land up here. Please do so! The alternative is "may they RUST in peace." :( |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Dec 26 03:24:38 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Dec 17 09:22:09 2015. I was under the impression that the third car (PA-4 750) also survived intact.wayne |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Dec 26 03:25:54 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Dec 26 03:24:38 2015. SORRY - above typo should read PA-3 750 |
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Posted by priya12 on Sat Dec 26 04:03:26 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 00:19:58 2015. There was a video of Arjun with the vest trespassing on the abandoned Canal and Bowery platforms. I'll see if I can find it. |
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Posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 06:37:36 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Sat Dec 26 01:57:05 2015. And that's what this whole hypocrisy boils down to with ole McG' : He tolerates that sneak thief and conquestor, yet disenfranchises a dedicated and reliable preservationist at heart such as I am, one who contributed substantially out of pocket, one who made every trip for every Saturday work date they had up there, one who singlehandedly took on a tedious and unpleasant assignment one hot Saturday in May: the task of grinding down the floor of the R-16 , and bought tools and parts for that job. I got all messy with paint while working on the roof of that long-neglected Low-V. I even painted the headlamps on the roof of the Low-V in neon orange to give that car a nice, illuminated look. I persuaded Harold Greenblatt and the others to carry an old trolley pole that was just lying around in the yard for what must have been many years into the storage container in the yard - it was so heavy, it took four or five of us to lug it with great difficulty into the bin.I worked with dedication and commitment with Garces to design and print the Westinghouse cab logos and the MTA side decals. When Garces posted on Facebook this year that they needed an old school set of MTA decals that were "impossible to find" it was I who leapt to the forefront to volunteer the cost and work creating this logo. Nobody else did. McGinty wanted some "Please Keep Hands Off The Doors" stickers for the inside of the R-16. One member volunteered to create them but never did. That was empty talk. I would have done the job of creating those inside door decals, but I was busy with the other decals, and also with some personal matters that made that additional project impossible to complete at that particular time. So to accuse me, of all people, of theft after the trust I demonstrated and the willingness to contribute to TMNY is really unfortunate. It is unfortunate too, in yet another sense: that such misguided and erroneous reasoning prevails in other museum matters. You see the results: rust, neglect, and worse. |
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Posted by jabrams on Sat Dec 26 11:35:46 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:00:52 2015. If the museum is 501(c)(3) and the 990 form is not filled out for 5 years (just have to go online and click a few check-off boxes), the 501(c)(3)is lost, and a 19 or so page tax form has to be filed again to restore it. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 12:07:00 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by jabrams on Sat Dec 26 11:35:46 2015. 5 years are over: 2010 through 2014 aren't filed. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 26 12:16:17 2015, in response to The problem with TMNY, posted by arli3835 on Fri Dec 25 21:25:43 2015. Wow.So they should shut down cause you don't like em? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 26 13:05:07 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by trains61 on Sat Dec 26 01:21:32 2015. Every time, every car transfered from Kingston to NYC it would cost many thousands of dollars. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Dec 26 13:43:06 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 02:35:59 2015. With all of your knowledge and technical experience, I'll bet that You could be a big help in getting those cars running. How about it? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 26 13:49:37 2015, in response to To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by arli3835 on Fri Dec 25 21:45:57 2015. Nobody has bigger egos than trolling noobs. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Dec 26 15:08:14 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 23:18:16 2015. Maybe it’s time to reef this thread! |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Dec 26 16:32:17 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 12:07:00 2015. They filed a Form 990-N for each of those years according to the IRS. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 16:35:45 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Dec 26 13:43:06 2015. Their biggest needs are mechanical, the electricals follow thereafter. Kingston's biggest issue right now is no electricals to run them on. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Dec 26 16:47:07 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 16:35:45 2015. I'm not following what you are saying( seriously) but will you be volunteering in the future? |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 26 16:56:15 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:00:52 2015. Good post. Unfortunately much of upstate NY consists of smaller villages and towns who are struggling to survive thanks to NYS and its punitive taxation and corruption in Albany. To keep this on topic I wish the people who are investing their time in TMNY the best of luck in their efforts to keep the museum going. |
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